Arpitr20 wrote:hello?
Totes wrote:Members of the Mafia should not be able to be switched. It just doesn't help and I could see people game throwing by switching mafioso with a non killing role.
Arpitr20 wrote:Totes wrote:Members of the Mafia should not be able to be switched. It just doesn't help and I could see people game throwing by switching mafioso with a non killing role.
yoou didnt understand the role. It doesnt have to be akilling, if you switched a bodyguard witha serial killer the serial killer would protect someone and potentially be killed protecting someone while the bodyguard makes the kill. i was thinking I might make It a neutral chaos
oliy wrote:An evil hijacker? Look at SFM7 or MMM to see what that is.
What does this really provide that Witch doesn't?Arpitr20 wrote:hello?
Hi
Arpitr20 wrote:Ok, it is not pointless. Can confuse lookouts. if they find a nk role or a nb role, theycan work together to draw people to veteran, maybe mafia chaos is a more useful term, I haven't thought of all the possibilities, but this role is anything but pointless
oliy wrote:Arpitr20 wrote:Ok, it is not pointless. Can confuse lookouts. if they find a nk role or a nb role, theycan work together to draw people to veteran, maybe mafia chaos is a more useful term, I haven't thought of all the possibilities, but this role is anything but pointless
That's one role, and Lookouts won't mess up like that.
What NB role visits? Also, transporters could mess this scheme up. Also, whispers, Spy threat and secrecy expectations. Also, Veteran probably won't alert if revealed, and more Mafia is unlikely for a Consig. Finally, the NKs could kill the Mafia because it's out of their control.
Witch does this well. It can do all of this by itself, protect itself, and other things.
Arpitr20 wrote:oliy wrote:Arpitr20 wrote:Ok, it is not pointless. Can confuse lookouts. if they find a nk role or a nb role, theycan work together to draw people to veteran, maybe mafia chaos is a more useful term, I haven't thought of all the possibilities, but this role is anything but pointless
That's one role, and Lookouts won't mess up like that.
What NB role visits? Also, transporters could mess this scheme up. Also, whispers, Spy threat and secrecy expectations. Also, Veteran probably won't alert if revealed, and more Mafia is unlikely for a Consig. Finally, the NKs could kill the Mafia because it's out of their control.
Witch does this well. It can do all of this by itself, protect itself, and other things.
ok, but if it finds an investigative, one gets the results but doesnt know who its about, one knows who its about but not waht the reults are. so either you get a reveal from the investigator or a waste of a night.
Arpitr20 wrote:oliy wrote:Arpitr20 wrote:Ok, it is not pointless. Can confuse lookouts. if they find a nk role or a nb role, theycan work together to draw people to veteran, maybe mafia chaos is a more useful term, I haven't thought of all the possibilities, but this role is anything but pointless
That's one role, and Lookouts won't mess up like that.
What NB role visits? Also, transporters could mess this scheme up. Also, whispers, Spy threat and secrecy expectations. Also, Veteran probably won't alert if revealed, and more Mafia is unlikely for a Consig. Finally, the NKs could kill the Mafia because it's out of their control.
Witch does this well. It can do all of this by itself, protect itself, and other things.
ok, but if it finds an investigative, one gets the results but doesnt know who its about, one knows who its about but not waht the reults are. so either you get a reveal from the investigator or a waste of a night.
lucas8411 wrote:Well this role seems interesting but I'm really confuced (but that was also when I played transporter for the first time)
Few questions so I can understand (a little) about this role:
1: If you switch with someone, do you see a diffenced result?
2: If you switch someone are they still on the same place?
3: Can I know the invest, sheriff and consig results? You forgot to add that.
4: Let we say the sk attack person 3 (witch) and the sheriff checked also person 3. The Switcher clicked on Sheriff and sk, does that mean the sk dies?
5: Let we say this, the escort tryed to rb the sk, but the switcher chose the escort and the sk. Does that mean the sk dies. And if you say "Yes" do you see that the sk was killed by the sk?
Also you forgot to add mafia by this "Wins with: survivors, witches."
Kirize wrote:I didnt know you could contradict yourself in one sentencekookeekwisp wrote:Dont single out Arso cause it kills slower!
kookeekwisp wrote:Here's what i think:
1. Make this Neutral Chaos, unique and able to target yourself.
2. Give it the power to misplace immunity
3. Have it win with everyone
4. Make transporter and witch immune.
5. If mafia, don't let it target other members **Please**
xXScrublord27Xx wrote:Its not very good in my opinion.
What can it be used for?
1-Confusing investigatives
2-Luring people into Veterans.
The first one, is pretty much what a witch does, or consort, or framer. They will know that they got switched, as they would investigate and get no results. (Unless they were lookout). The other person switched will now have confirmed information, allowing them knowledge of say what the NK is, or if there is an amnesiac, who is mafia... This means all the information is spread throughout town. Its pretty much a consort, that gives someone else (you choose) the results from their night.
The latter, is very rare to happen. To find a veteran (1/4 chance to be in the game, and unique), to find a targeting role to choose that veteran, to successfully target him and a townie on the night the veteran alerts and the targeting role visits the veteran.
Also how does this work with jailor? I assume its either switch immune or the switched role can only choose to execute, (if they were to visit the person jailed)
All in all a bit too complicated, for a practical downgrade to consort/witch, which is able to be used easily for gamethrowing.
It isn't too bad in theory, just work on it to more it more unique.
Skulldug13 wrote:Nk, NB, NE, and Revealing mayor
Should not be allowed to be switched roles
Arpitr20 wrote:Skulldug13 wrote:Nk, NB, NE, and Revealing mayor
Should not be allowed to be switched roles
its only for one night... and if you die you will die as serial killer
it doesn't actually switch the roles.
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