Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
alex1234321 wrote:Disguiser isn't very strong right now and this would remove most of its utility. Most of the time Mafia roles can claim within their Investigator results without too much difficulty, so it's not very useful for that. Deceiving Lookouts can be useful, but the main purpose of Disguiser is to help Mafia members who are under suspicion, and deceiving Sheriff is far more direct. Sheriff should be buffed by letting it see more roles. I'm okay with keeping Godfather immune, but Witch and possibly Executioner should be detectable.
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:alex1234321 wrote:Disguiser isn't very strong right now and this would remove most of its utility. Most of the time Mafia roles can claim within their Investigator results without too much difficulty, so it's not very useful for that. Deceiving Lookouts can be useful, but the main purpose of Disguiser is to help Mafia members who are under suspicion, and deceiving Sheriff is far more direct. Sheriff should be buffed by letting it see more roles. I'm okay with keeping Godfather immune, but Witch and possibly Executioner should be detectable.
the problem with exe is that it can turn jest, and jest obviusly needs detection inmunity
another problem with exe is its perma basic def, it should be scumshield like witch, because if you make a bad play and vigi shoots you then you should die
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
alex1234321 wrote:syjfwbaobfwl wrote:alex1234321 wrote:Disguiser isn't very strong right now and this would remove most of its utility. Most of the time Mafia roles can claim within their Investigator results without too much difficulty, so it's not very useful for that. Deceiving Lookouts can be useful, but the main purpose of Disguiser is to help Mafia members who are under suspicion, and deceiving Sheriff is far more direct. Sheriff should be buffed by letting it see more roles. I'm okay with keeping Godfather immune, but Witch and possibly Executioner should be detectable.
the problem with exe is that it can turn jest, and jest obviusly needs detection inmunity
another problem with exe is its perma basic def, it should be scumshield like witch, because if you make a bad play and vigi shoots you then you should die
Mafioso gains detection immunity when it becomes Godfather, so I don't see why that would be bad for Executioner.
Yeah I agree with you about the scumshield.
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:1 is good but im not a fan of it, sheriff should need sighly more skill, it is a very simple role and its not a bad role, but it can for sure be improved a lot
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
Joacgroso wrote:syjfwbaobfwl wrote:1 is good but im not a fan of it, sheriff should need sighly more skill, it is a very simple role and its not a bad role, but it can for sure be improved a lot
Doesn't sheriff require the same skill as investigator or tracker? Just look for someone suspicious and visit them. The game will tell them wheter they are evil or not, though they can be deceived in certain situations. The only difference is that investigators have to ask their target for a claim and trackers have to ask for a will, but I don't think that's a significant difference in skill.
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
Joacgroso wrote:We can't justify balance changes with lore, though. Especially considering framers can already fool sheriffs and jesters can't.
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
Joacgroso wrote:No matter how much of a desire a framer has to deceive, how could he possibly make his target suspicious when a sheriff is interrogating them? It's not like he can control what his target says.
Joacgroso wrote:Jesters on the other hand would definitely confess/hide their actual alibi if they were being interrogated by a sheriff.
Joacgroso wrote:It doesn't really make sense that sheriffs "interrogate" people, that's what I was trying to say. So saying that disguisers shouldn't fool sheriffs because a disguise doesn't really affect an interrogation doesn't matter.
Dragnier wrote:Trying to imagine the roles, I can picture on my mind a Disguiser applying a disguise onto someone, thus fooling an Investigator that is investigating that target.
On the other end, I can't picture a Disguiser fooling a Sheriff. A Sheriff is meant to Interrogate his target. You can apply the best disguise, but unless a player is a clever lier, it would be hard for them to fool a Sheriff that is interrogating him.
By this, I think it makes senses that a Sheriff isn't fooled by a disguised player.
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
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