To respond to Orecreeper, I do think disguiser is a very good RM early-game, especially since they can restrict the capability of TIs finding the mafia. The only problem are spies who see the disguiser visiting their own mafia.
In a game with a bunch of experienced players, [from what I can remember at least] I was witch and there was a framer, disguiser, sheriff, and spy [all are very good, high elo players]. The disguiser disguised the framer as someone else night one, causing a 3-maf visit night one. Nobody questioned that, as there could have been 2 RMs that randomly visited. All was good. The framer then told the sheriff claim to check a doc claim to confirm themself. On night two, the framer framed the doctor, causing the sheriff to find the doctor suspicious. Since the disguiser disguised the framer night one, the spy did not see the framer visit the doc claim night two. The spy was very suspicious on the sheriff to begin with, and them finding someone suspicious night 2 made them wary. Likewise, the sheriff thought that the player who told them to check the doc claim might've been framer who framed, but the SPY WILL NIGHT 2 confirmed them as not framed, so she [the sheriff] hard pushed on the doc claim. The doc claim got put up, and the disguiser ccd. I believe the spy [who was pushing against the sheriff on day 2] was the only inno on the doc claim, who turned out to be the doctor. The spy was yelling for the sheriff to be executed, and the sheriff was then saying the player she whispered with the day before was framer and that the spy was fake.
For some weird reason, the jailor didn't execute that night, but now everyone was hard pushing on the sheriff, who was trying to say that the spy and framer were fake. The town were forced to believe the spy, as they were the only hard inno on the doctor. The sheriff got up and was swiftly hanged, which confused everyone.
At this point, mafia had already gotten 2 mislynches in a row and had killed a total of 2 townies since the frame night two. The transporter and mafioso had died night one to an alerting veteran, and the BG had killed the GF night two. That's 6 townies killed since the sheriff hang, and now an exe, witch [who knew the mafs
], 2 mafs versus 3 townies. The jailor had jailed me and didn't execute. The jailor was then killed, and the evils won.
The point of the story is to prove that with experienced players, disguiser can prove to be very very useful, even up against almost half of the Top 25 players.
PatrykSzczescie wrote:This is quite hilarious that disguiser is considered a bad role but when the disguiser uses the ability properly, town reports each other for gamethrowing due to messed up TI results.
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Funnily enough,
this report shows the spy telling the town to report sheriff for gamethrowing. Infact, when I check it out, I notice that the MAJORITY of the dead chat was debating whether the spy was evil or the sheriff was evil. Overall, a very good game!
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