Brilliand wrote:Tappytheturtle wrote:People who call others susp for not being on the jailor N2 when there is a tp lo call are just bad townies/evil leaders who want to sheep the town into their bidding
if you claim to not be on Jailor N1, then the Lookout has no way of confirming or denying your claim. The meta requires that all TP be on the Jailor N1, so they can be confirmed; and if you evade the meta that would confirm whether you're town or evil, well that indicates that you're evil.
3cheersforidiots wrote:yes, well, any potential TP claimants in mafia can also pile on jailor and be 'confirmed'
Brilliand wrote:3cheersforidiots wrote:yes, well, any potential TP claimants in mafia can also pile on jailor and be 'confirmed'
Only RMs can do this, and if they do, a Spy can tell the town that it happened.
3cheersforidiots wrote:assuming a Spy exists
Brilliand wrote:3cheersforidiots wrote:assuming a Spy exists
The evils don't know whether a Spy exists when they decide whether to visit the Jailor N1.
(The same as for Lookout.)
3cheersforidiots wrote:Brilliand wrote:3cheersforidiots wrote:assuming a Spy exists
The evils don't know whether a Spy exists when they decide whether to visit the Jailor N1.
(The same as for Lookout.)
indeed, but as mafia, you have to take certain risks
this scenario is only risky to the extent where it's possible for an LO and a Spy to co-exist
Superalex11 wrote:3cheersforidiots wrote:Brilliand wrote:3cheersforidiots wrote:assuming a Spy exists
The evils don't know whether a Spy exists when they decide whether to visit the Jailor N1.
(The same as for Lookout.)
indeed, but as mafia, you have to take certain risks
this scenario is only risky to the extent where it's possible for an LO and a Spy to co-exist
56.7% of ranked games will have at least 1 of any particular TI. So 56.7% will have at least 1 spy, and 56.7% will have at least 1 lo.
23.9% will have at least 1 spy and at least 1 lo.
I don't think it's in maf's best interest to rely on a n1 strategy that is strictly nonviable in a quarter of their games.
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