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Postby cob709 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:26 pm

i love jailor meta now
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby Brilliand » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:04 pm

The main problem with the Jailor meta is that it's boring.

It's pretty powerful though, even with an Arsonist or Werewolf.

anyway indeed ignoring the meta isn't gamethrowing, and reporting people for not following the current meta causes actual gamethrowing to slip through the cracks.
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby CrimsonKatana » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:17 pm

The Jailor meta is a part of being a flawless town member
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby cob709 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:51 pm

ok but jailor meta doesnt work when there's an arsonist
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby CrimsonKatana » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:23 pm

:Thonk: Wdym? It definitely works when there's an arsonist
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby cob709 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:40 pm

no because doctor/BG cant protect jailor from arso
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby Tappytheturtler » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:47 pm

TRUE!
I got a ranked game of tos recently where i was silent sneaky jailor.
I told a doctor my role and they dc the next day when arso ignited.
And thanks to a fellow escort we managed to find all the evildoers and criminals an win the game!

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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby CrimsonKatana » Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:10 am

How does dying to arso N2 mean that the strategy doesn't work?????
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby cob709 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:34 am

CrimsonKatana wrote:How does dying to arso N2 mean that the strategy doesn't work?????

lmao what?
the whole point of the jailor meta is to keep the jailor alive.
the jailor has a higher chance of survival if they dont claim because of arso.

if the jailor dies then the jailor meta fails
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby Brilliand » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:10 am

cob709 wrote:
CrimsonKatana wrote:How does dying to arso N2 mean that the strategy doesn't work?????

lmao what?
the whole point of the jailor meta is to keep the jailor alive.
the jailor has a higher chance of survival if they dont claim because of arso.

if the jailor dies then the jailor meta fails


That is not the only point of the Jailor meta. The more important part of the Jailor meta is actually the tp/lo meta - which, er, most people don't know how to use without the Jailor claiming, even though the Jailor claiming isn't necessary at all.

Also, if the Arsonist kills the Jailor in a Lookout game, the Arsonist is outed, so there's some compensation for letting the Arsonist get the Jailor.
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby dolphina » Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:54 am

Brilliand wrote:
cob709 wrote:
CrimsonKatana wrote:How does dying to arso N2 mean that the strategy doesn't work?????

lmao what?
the whole point of the jailor meta is to keep the jailor alive.
the jailor has a higher chance of survival if they dont claim because of arso.

if the jailor dies then the jailor meta fails


That is not the only point of the Jailor meta. The more important part of the Jailor meta is actually the tp/lo meta - which, er, most people don't know how to use without the Jailor claiming, even though the Jailor claiming isn't necessary at all.

Also, if the Arsonist kills the Jailor in a Lookout game, the Arsonist is outed, so there's some compensation for letting the Arsonist get the Jailor.


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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:21 pm

The problem with the Jailor meta is that Jailor is an OP role tbh
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby SparkingJay » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:08 pm

3cheersforidiots wrote:The problem with the Jailor meta is that Jailor is an OP role tbh

In the right hands

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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby Brilliand » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:56 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:The problem with the Jailor meta is that Jailor is an OP role tbh

In the right hands


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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby kyuss420 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:20 am

cob709 wrote:
CrimsonKatana wrote:How does dying to arso N2 mean that the strategy doesn't work?????

lmao what?
the whole point of the jailor meta is to keep the jailor alive.
the jailor has a higher chance of survival if they dont claim because of arso.

if the jailor dies then the jailor meta fails


No one really gives a fuck if the jailor dies or not, the whole meta is designed to confirm players as townies, via a LO. It just that jailor is the optimal target for the TPs, which is why they claim day 1. (saves TPs randomly visiting) Also an outed jailor lets the vigi feel safer when hes firing at a no claimer n3.

You forget TIs like LO are just as valuable for their ability to find who is town, not just find who is evil. and confirming 2 TP, a LO and jailor on day 2 (with however many self confirming TS) puts you at a huge advantage.
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby CrimsonKatana » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:05 am

I agree with Jailor meta I like playing Jailor meta
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby dolphina » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:34 am

I use Jailor meta it helps narrow down evils
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby CrimsonKatana » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:37 am

This thread is now a Jailor meta appreciation thread
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby dolphina » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:37 am

Jailor meta is best
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby CrimsonKatana » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:42 am

Jailor meta is good 4 confirming townies
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby kyuss420 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:27 am

OP seems to like the meta where town say nothing, and stay hidden for 4 days, until maf picks em off 1 by 1 and is 1 night away from majority, then town can guess at the evils, by sheepishly following mafs vote on majority day. Then scream at how dumb ''town'' is for not giving the 5th vote in a 4v4 situation...
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby cob709 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:30 am

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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby Tappytheturtler » Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:30 am

Jailor meta is reliant on the fact that rng is in your favor.
If it isn't in your favor, you are screwed.

if you are a Jailor who doesn't execute players who are at least claiming 3rd RT, or exeing people town tell you to.
then you shouldn't be playing with jailor meta. Just let someone else call for TP LO, like the transporter who Moved themselves N1 because they don't wanna die or the quiet non claiming person who you think is susp but is actually the mayor of the town.

Even if you do die with 1 exe left you are more likely to have helped town identify themselves and confirming who's good and evil.

You don't need Jailor for everything, He's only there to lynch all the criminals and evildoers after all.

People who call others susp for not being on the jailor N2 when there is a tp lo call are just bad townies/evil leaders who want to sheep the town into their bidding
Which is why i like the people who say "Inno for now!" Rather than "Why not on jailor?"/"Why not on jailor N2?"
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby Brilliand » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:22 pm

Tappytheturtle wrote:People who call others susp for not being on the jailor N2 when there is a tp lo call are just bad townies/evil leaders who want to sheep the town into their bidding


if you claim to not be on Jailor N1, then the Lookout has no way of confirming or denying your claim. The meta requires that all TP be on the Jailor N1, so they can be confirmed; and if you evade the meta that would confirm whether you're town or evil, well that indicates that you're evil.
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Re: I disagree with Jailor meta. I hate playing jailor

Postby SlippingKimmy » Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:50 pm

I agree, it sucks, but jailor is still a fun role by themselves. Just don't follow the meta.
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