TP/LO requests and the ingorance in Ranked.

[pericz]

Originally i wrote an entire novel about a story where a vigilante shoot the ONLY TP claim Night 2 becouse the TP asked for TP/LO/Escort Day 1. (The jailor doesnt revealed and nobody else asked for TP/LO)
But that took so long that the forum logged out of my account and everything lost so heres the meme version of the story :

https://imgur.com/a/ica8Ejv

I recently experienced that more and more players in ranked has the attribute that i hate the most the ignorance.

Thats one thing to make a bad play. I'm not the best player either. So whenever someone makes a mistake usually i dont flame on him to delete his entire existence
But when one somebody does a misplay and other players point out the mistake its not the right move to say "I made the right play you are all trash."
If everybody drives the opposite direction consider that not everybody else stupid but you are in the wrong lane.
"TP/LO/Esc on me". Not being on the request as a TP/Esc/Spy is one thing but when 2 other players counter claiming you dont be mad if you got hanged and call them a meta slaves just becouse they following the most optimal strategy. (Just image a war going like this "We could attack them at night, and probably win due to the chaos that our suprise attack cause. But F* that! I'm not playing the meta!" Yea good luck with that)
But the absolute thing that kills me inside when they say this to the TP/LO requests : He is not jailor. He might mafia or NK.
Seen this at least, AT LEAST 20 times, and can i guarantee you that none of them, not a single soul among them understood that it doesnt matter who asks for TP/LO (As long as the jailor doesnt revealed), even if the SK who asks for it, protecting the target who asks is the most inferior part of the strategy. But if the town has LO, Spy, Escort and TP, that is already 4 out of the 9 players confirmed. At optimal plays where the Town investigate roles claiming and posting will Day 2, where the players are not hiding the roles i think is not a single outcome where town loses. Yet NK and mafia can easily win with Vet random alerting N1, TI's hiding their will, vigilantes random shooting. (You know what sucks more than being dead becouse of your claim? Losing becouse nobody claimed and town couldnt fill the RT's.)

With this post i didnt meant to say that not playing by meta is bad, every player has their own rights to play whoever they feel like (until its against the rules)
But the fact that those player doesnt even try to understand the strategy behind the plays just straight up refusing and trash talks, AND THESE players are in master is something that bothers me and should not happen in my opinion.
I know, the ELO system is not very great, every player with the right amount of time can climb up, i just wanted to give out my heart's content.

[BlastingOff]

As if people actually follow the TP/LO strategy, I have asked for TP/LO 5 times recently and never actually got any of them. Not to mention when someone asks for TP/LO D1, someone has to purposelly say "no" or "no, TP/LO on me instead", which just confuses people more.

[lalasex]

the reason why this game is dead and have only salty guys is because of that TP/LO shit

you realise evils winrate is about to be 0% BECAUSE it confirms 9 guys out of 15 and 6 other are who.....yeah - mafia team, NE and NK.

[jiminwithjams]

one time in ranked... someone said "tp/lo on me" d1... this was the first time I've seen it work... kind of.
they were vet. the entire town died apart from me (jailor), the escort i jailed and the vet themselves.
surprisingly, i managed to execute the rest of the mafia (one consort died) and town still won. but i still think about this vet to this day. how they got into ranked, i have no idea.

[pericz]

the reason why this game is dead and have only salty guys is because of that TP/LO shit

you realise evils winrate is about to be 0% BECAUSE it confirms 9 guys out of 15 and 6 other are who.....yeah - mafia team, NE and NK.

The TP/LO meta could be easily nerfed out by just disableing the Day 1 Chat
Most of the times the evils winrate is about to 0% Becouse
-There is 3TS half of the games filling all RT's by Day 3
-Half of the games are ruined by retributionist ressurrection
-The evils gave up before the start of the game.

Its not that hard to lose a game as evil when you have an NK who just suicides into the TP/LO request Night 1.
When you have a mafia half of them not having a claim, leaving or just not trying with the claims. Claiming Spy and claiming he didnt bugged the TP request in the TP/LO meta is just straight suiciding. When i see a sheriff claim turning out to be mafia i always check their will and a good portion of the time their N1 investigation target is their Godfather.
Not gonna deny, the game is heavily town sided, but i see many evils giving up on a situation that were winnable.

As if people actually follow the TP/LO strategy, I have asked for TP/LO 5 times recently and never actually got any of them. Not to mention when someone asks for TP/LO D1, someone has to purposelly say "no" or "no, TP/LO on me instead", which just confuses people more.

I've seen players following it more than refuseing to use though.

[lalasex]

the reason why this game is dead and have only salty guys is because of that TP/LO shit

you realise evils winrate is about to be 0% BECAUSE it confirms 9 guys out of 15 and 6 other are who.....yeah - mafia team, NE and NK.

The TP/LO meta could be easily nerfed out by just disableing the Day 1 Chat
Most of the times the evils winrate is about to 0% Becouse
-There is 3TS half of the games filling all RT's by Day 3
-Half of the games are ruined by retributionist ressurrection
-The evils gave up before the start of the game.

Its not that hard to lose a game as evil when you have an NK who just suicides into the TP/LO request Night 1.
When you have a mafia half of them not having a claim, leaving or just not trying with the claims. Claiming Spy and claiming he didnt bugged the TP request in the TP/LO meta is just straight suiciding. When i see a sheriff claim turning out to be mafia i always check their will and a good portion of the time their N1 investigation target is their Godfather.
Not gonna deny, the game is heavily town sided, but i see many evils giving up on a situation that were winnable.

As if people actually follow the TP/LO strategy, I have asked for TP/LO 5 times recently and never actually got any of them. Not to mention when someone asks for TP/LO D1, someone has to purposelly say "no" or "no, TP/LO on me instead", which just confuses people more.

I've seen players following it more than refuseing to use though.

the reason why evils give up because of those three reasons

RNG is heavily town favored and that meta just stings hard

the only way to win if town is just....something else? BUT even there would be at least 1 guy with 1 functional braincell so he will save the day.

[kyuss420]

the reason why this game is dead and have only salty guys is because of that TP/LO shit

you realise evils winrate is about to be 0% BECAUSE it confirms 9 guys out of 15 and 6 other are who.....yeah - mafia team, NE and NK.

So youre saying its the most optimal strategy for securing your factions win (when your faction is town)? Why wouldnt you use it then?