lemonader666 wrote:>competitive
>social
>deception-focused
Idk man
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
Descender wrote:i think mafia just attracts insane people
Joacgroso wrote:I don't think people being offended is that bad, but aren't there people that might actually get hurt by those words? For all I know, there may be people suffering constant rejection in real life who are trying to use this game to escape reality for a while. Not being able to escape that even in a game must be very sad. Even if the players who use "gay" as an insult are actually gay, the insulted person has no way of knowing that.
Sure, trying to reduce toxicity on an online game won't change the world, but it may improve the life of a few people, and that's something in my opinion.
Descender wrote:the fuck did i just read
kyuss420 wrote:Descender wrote:the fuck did i just read
The reality of existence outside of your safe space..... if words are someones biggest concern, theyre gonna have a bad time out here..... maybe they should ban wars instead of words?
kyuss420 wrote:well yea, its a game, so poltics, religion, sexuality, ethnicity, gender etc doesnt really come into it.... but the players are real life people, so ofc the bs that comes with dealing with people irl is going to happen when dealing with random irl people in a game...It happens in every game, even professional sports, where putting people ''on tilt'' is a valid strategy to cause mistakes/misplays, so as long as laws arent being broken, theres not much anyone can do.
I mean...most gay people seem to like to wave their sexuality in everyones face, (in my experience of ToS lobbies) when no one even asked.... so ofc people are going to use it to tilt them (or just to get them to stfu about it)....if thats what happens in the real world, why would people expect random real world people to be any different on ToS? or on any other game for that matter.....
As far as politics and religion goes.... theres no laws against 'attacking' an ideology...even FB will let you talk smack against a religion, but theyll suspend you for talking smack about people following a religion...eg you can abuse Islam or Christianity, but you cant abuse Muslims or Christians - one is attacking an ideology, one is attacking people...even tho any self righteous SJW would consider both ''toxic'' and every overly religious person would find both offensive...
So as far as policing political correctness - whos the judge? wheres the line drawn? Do we get a crazy ass SJW spouting their personal agenda, to make every normal person conform to their standards as the thought judge? Do we ban people for using ToS as a pro politcal/sexual/religious/ethnic platform if we are going to ban people for using it as anti politcal/sexual/religious/ethnic platform? I mean... if people are using it to state their beliefs (maybe in the hopes to persuade others) then why shouldnt people be able to voice their rebuttals without fear of punishment?
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
kyuss420 wrote:The reality of existence outside of your safe space..... if words are someones biggest concern, theyre gonna have a bad time out here.....
kyuss420 wrote:Descender wrote:the fuck did i just read
The reality of existence outside of your safe space..... if words are someones biggest concern, theyre gonna have a bad time out here..... maybe they should ban wars instead of words?
kyuss420 wrote:Descender wrote:the fuck did i just read
The reality of existence outside of your safe space..... if words are someones biggest concern, theyre gonna have a bad time out here..... maybe they should ban wars instead of words?
genericnpc wrote:kyuss420 wrote:Descender wrote:the fuck did i just read
The reality of existence outside of your safe space..... if words are someones biggest concern, theyre gonna have a bad time out here..... maybe they should ban wars instead of words?
Spoiler:
TheFlyingDead wrote:Here’s an honest question, why are the players of this game, particularly in high levels of ranked play, so damn toxic?!
1 - excessive flaming of people over a game. I don’t know about y’all, but I play games to pass the time and relax, not to deal with hateful trolls and fearmongoring idiots. It annoys me to no end when a town doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together and hands maf an easy win but do you really need to just run someone into the ground over it? Grow up.
2 - salt over prior games. How many games get thrown because someone is carrying over BS from the last game or two and gets so focused on their one hated target that they can’t work together? Quite a few in ranked at least.
3 - cheating. The amount of cheating going on amongst the top level players with their private chats outside the game is insane. I’ve got several screenshots as maf bmer of people acknowledging having a secondary out of game chat to work together. This, blatant game throwing, multi accounting - all significant issues.
4 - false reports - self explanatory. So many people will try to get everyone to mass report one player over literally nothing. As an example, I myself battle mental illness. I frequently will use a name of Suicidal, which is a play on my mental health and my seeming great ability to run into a silent alerting vet n1. The amount of people that try to inflame me saying this is reportable. The day I’m banned for this choice of name is a cold cold day.
5 - hate speech. Hate speech doesn’t have to be dropping the N word or making something racial. The amount of people in this game that use “gay” and “retard” in derogatory ways is absolutely unacceptable. I’d rather not have a game to play than to allow this behavior. I’d be willing to wager highly that if all who have taken their own lives, particularly after acts of violence against others, could be interviewed, many would tell you they’ve been harassed, bullied, etc with absolutely ignorant acts like this.
What’s the solution? What are your thoughts? Personally, I’d love to see BMG start going to full MAC address bans for any perm bans, it’s a running joke in the ranked community how many players have 5-6-7 accounts for when they get banned for throwing and/or what they say
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
TheFlyingDead wrote:Holy shit we found the very definition of toxic asshole in the last post. You don’t understand how retard is hate speech? You do realize it is a derogatory term/word for a person with limited mental faculties correct? It’s no better than calling a homosexual person gay or faggot, a black person a Fine Black Gentleman, a Hispanic person a spic, a white person a cracker, a Hispanic person a spic, a Jewish person a kike, so on so forth.
Ignorant pricks like you are the problem. Educate yourself and become the best version of yourself you can be, instead of being some hate filled 40 year old virgin living in grandmas basement.
Blah blah blah ha ha guiz I got the OP to react - you, right after you read this, guaranteed.
kyuss420 wrote:genericnpc wrote:kyuss420 wrote:Descender wrote:the fuck did i just read
The reality of existence outside of your safe space..... if words are someones biggest concern, theyre gonna have a bad time out here..... maybe they should ban wars instead of words?
Spoiler:
so we should murder unreasonable people? oh wait...its not murder if the governments doing it.... which is exactly the hypocrisy which leads to political correctness insanitys existence to start with...
Then theres the propaganda spouted to the public that a certain leader is an ''unreasonable'' person, to sway public support for their own agenda in destablising certain areas of the world - which leads to desperate unreasonable people emerging, and even more inequality as people are left to rebuild their countries with no wealth or resources available to them.....so while the people in charge of western countries are spouting equality and freedom for all, we are all getting fat and living in 1st world conditions from stolen wealth, but its all fine as long as no one is calling each other names...
TheFlyingDead wrote:Here’s an honest question, why are the players of this game, particularly in high levels of ranked play, so damn toxic?!
5 - hate speech. Hate speech doesn’t have to be dropping the N word or making something racial. The amount of people in this game that use “gay” and “retard” in derogatory ways is absolutely unacceptable. I’d rather not have a game to play than to allow this behavior. I’d be willing to wager highly that if all who have taken their own lives, particularly after acts of violence against others, could be interviewed, many would tell you they’ve been harassed, bullied, etc with absolutely ignorant acts like this.
Pixies wrote:TheFlyingDead wrote:Here’s an honest question, why are the players of this game, particularly in high levels of ranked play, so damn toxic?!
5 - hate speech. Hate speech doesn’t have to be dropping the N word or making something racial. The amount of people in this game that use “gay” and “retard” in derogatory ways is absolutely unacceptable. I’d rather not have a game to play than to allow this behavior. I’d be willing to wager highly that if all who have taken their own lives, particularly after acts of violence against others, could be interviewed, many would tell you they’ve been harassed, bullied, etc with absolutely ignorant acts like this.
I wonder this myself! I've been called "retard"/"retarded" in a lot of games. I've always found seeing/using the "R" word as a form of derogatory statements to thoughts with mental disabilities (even physical disabilities). I do agree that it is absolutely unacceptable, and I hope BMG considers allowing people to be reported for that word.
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