Secret Hitler! (FASCISTS WIN!) "HEIL!"

[Multiuniverse]

i agree that chancellor should be inside the conflicts and president should be outside

i prefer ttr/transport out of the conflict people

i feel like chem is trying to make us doubt the trustworthy ttr

ttr is termlocked and im not confident in transport not being hitler

[transportowiec96]

Why would I even get into huge conflicts while being Hitler
My claim basically is challenging two people's credibility (Grumpy's and BRVR's), thats one against two, that already lowered my credibility, so did the fascist card played, why draw so much attention to myself as Hitler

Am either red or blue, but certainly not Hitler lol

[TimeToReap]

i agree that chancellor should be inside the conflicts and president should be outside

i prefer ttr/transport out of the conflict people

i feel like chem is trying to make us doubt the trustworthy ttr

ttr is termlocked and im not confident in transport not being hitler

Pick someone other than trans then?
Though if you're really not confident in trans then I still suggest you stay clear of htg.

Why would I even get into huge conflicts while being Hitler
My claim basically is challenging two people's credibility (Grumpy's and BRVR's), thats one against two, that already lowered my credibility, so did the fascist card played, why draw so much attention to myself as Hitler

Am either red or blue, but certainly not Hitler lol

Maybe that's what you want us to think!
jk

Whats your opinion on Alba/Tim?

[transportowiec96]

Maybe that's what you want us to think!
jk

Shit you got me gg pals was nice knowing you, off to the gas chamber /s of course lol

Whats your opinion on Alba/Tim?

Tim seems blue enough. Why? He's stupid and clueless. If he were red, he wouldn't play this dumb lol.

On Alba though, I've no idea. They raise valid points sometimes, do this list stuff, so they're more bluey than red.

[Chemist1422]

I'm at Time/Cryo/[dota/HTG]/BRVR rn

[Multiuniverse]

Why would I even get into huge conflicts while being Hitler
My claim basically is challenging two people's credibility (Grumpy's and BRVR's), thats one against two, that already lowered my credibility, so did the fascist card played, why draw so much attention to myself as Hitler

Am either red or blue, but certainly not Hitler lol

Because grumpy alr had low credibility from doing fas policiy

[Multiuniverse]

I'll make my choice in about 8-9 hours if no other objections are raised by then.

[Rickdaily12]

Normally in this game, the fascists are told who hitler is.
Though when you teach enough players, hitler doesn’t know who the fascists are.
@Rick does hitler know who the fascists are? Do the fascists know who hitler is?

Why would I do this if I was hitler, it just means I’ll never be chancellor.
If I’m a fascist but not hitler, why would I make a claim so easy to CC.

Hitler almost never knows who the Fascists are. All of this can be found on the OP as well.

Hitler only knows his Fascist in 5-6 players. Fascists always know who Hitler is.

[Multiuniverse]

/choose alba

[Rickdaily12]

TimetoReap (term locked)
heytheregirl17
GrumpyGoomba
(PRESIDENT) Multiuniverse
(CHANCELLOR) AlbanixAnubibus
transportowiec96
BRVR
Chemist1422 (term locked)
dota2reporter
timurtheking

The motion on the table is the election of President Multiuniverse and his Chancellor AlbanixAnubibus.

Please send me your votes on this motion.

[GrumpyGoomba]

Why alba of all people?

[dota2reporter]

i have no idea but i'll ja anyway

[heytheregirl17]

Meh, not a fan but it isn't Hitler so

[Multiuniverse]

Why alba of all people?

Prolly not hitler(?) also contributed by doing choice list

[transportowiec96]

The more I think about it the more hesitant I am to jawohl this

[TimeToReap]

The more I think about it the more hesitant I am to jawohl this

You say that to everyone.
Who are you willing to ja?

[transportowiec96]

You say that to everyone.
Who are you willing to ja?

Dota/Tim seem like better picks now

Tim is just being Seth which makes me see him just as a clueless blue
Dota balances well between fluff and talking (which is a good thing here), he also obviously took my side in me vs grumpy argument

And Alba is giving the "helpful guy" vibes, which is something you want to be associated with when you're hitler

[TimeToReap]

You say that to everyone.
Who are you willing to ja?

Dota/Tim seem like better picks now

Tim is just being Seth which makes me see him just as a clueless blue
Dota balances well between fluff and talking (which is a good thing here), he also obviously took my side in me vs grumpy argument

And Alba is giving the "helpful guy" vibes, which is something you want to be associated with when you're hitler

So is everything they’ve done though?
But I understand what you’re saying I guess.

[Rickdaily12]

TimetoReap (term locked)
heytheregirl17
GrumpyGoomba
(PRESIDENT) Multiuniverse
(CHANCELLOR) AlbanixAnubibus
transportowiec96
BRVR
Chemist1422 (term locked)
dota2reporter
timurtheking

The motion on the table is the election of President Multiuniverse and his Chancellor AlbanixAnubibus.

Please send me your votes on this motion.

[Rickdaily12]

Government Phase 9 has ended. Votes on the proposed government are as follows:


Ja! (8): GrumpyGoomba, BRVR, timurtheking, TimeToReap, dota2reporter, Multiuniverse, Chemist1422, AlbanixAnubibus
Nein! (2): transportowiec96, heytheregirl17

The Government has passed.

[Rickdaily12]

Hitler has been elected Chancellor.

The world watches in fear as he goes on to seize complete control of Germany...

...The Fascists have won the game.

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[Rickdaily12]

Fascists (Winners):

TimeToReap
GrumpyGoomba
timurtheking
AlbanixAnubibus


Liberals (Defeated):

heytheregirl17
Multiuniverse
transportowiec96
BRVR
Chemist1422
dota2reporter


Game Summary:

Spoiler: TimeToReap is President.
President TimeToReap nominated Chemist1422. The vote passed (7-3).
President TimeToReap draws LLF and claims LFF.
Chancellor Chemist1422 receives LF and claims LF.
A Liberal policy is enacted (1/5).
heytheregirl17 is President.
President heytheregirl17 nominated transportowiec96. The vote passed (6-4).
President heytheregirl17 draws LFF and claims LFF.
Chancellor transportowiec receives LF and claims LF.
A Liberal policy is enacted (2/5).
GrumpyGoomba is President.
President GrumpyGoomba nominated dota2reporter. The vote passed (9-1).
President GrumpyGoomba draws FFF and claims FFF.
Chancellor dota2reporter receives FF and claims FF.
A Fascist policy is enacted (1/6).
President GrumpyGoomba viewed BRVR's Party Membership and claimed to see Liberal.
Multiuniverse is President.
President Multiuniverse nominated TimeToReap. The vote passed (8-2).
President Multiuniverse draws LLF and claims LLF.
Chancellor TimeToReap receives LF and claims LF.
A Liberal policy is enacted (3/5).
AlbanixAnubibus is President.
President AlbanixAnubibus nominated timurtheking. The vote failed (5-5).
The election tracker advances once to the right and the presidency continues to the next candidate.
transportowiec96 is President.
President transportowiec96 nominated heytheregirl17. The vote passed (6-4).
The election tracker retreats one step to the left.
President transportowiec96 draws FFF and claims FFF.
Chancellor heytheregirl17 receives FF and claims FF.
A Fascist policy is enacted (2/6).
President transportowiec96 viewed GrumpyGoomba's Party Membership and claimed to see Fascist.
The remaining two cards of LF are reshuffled into a new deck.
BRVR is President.
President BRVR nominated TimeToReap. The vote failed (1-9).
The election tracker advances once to the right and the presidency continues to the next candidate.
Chemist1422 is President.
President Chemist1422 nominated TimeToReap. The vote passed (7-3).
The election tracker retreats one step to the left.
President Chemist1422 draws LFF and claims LFF.
Chancellor TimeToReap receives LF and claims FF.
A Fascist policy is enacted (3/6).
President Chemist1422 special elected Multiuniverse.
Multiuniverse is President.
President Multiuniverse nominated AlbanixAnubibus. The vote passed (8-2).
Hitler is elected. Fascists win the game.
Cards remaining were FFFLFLFFF.


Host Analysis of Player Mistakes (team faulted is color-coded appropriately):

Spoiler: 1. Liberals (especially transportowiec96) neining people as often as they did before Hitler Zone.
(Reason: Skipping people instead of allowing people to play before Hitler Zone gives you minimal information when you're going to need it later.)
(Reason 2: transportowiec96 came under heavy suspicion for unnecessary overuse of neins.)
(Consequence: Hitler did not draw FFF. She probably would not have been Ja-ed. Again, transport came under suspicion for this.)

2. GrumpyGoomba not claiming LFF instead of FFF with a Liberal Chancellor.
(Reason: You had 2 other Fascist Presidents in this deck who will probably toss blues. You can overclaim a Blue to make dota look bad.)
(Consequence: More suspicion on GrumpyGoomba rather than dota2reporter.)

3. GrumpyGoomba not claiming BRVR was a Fascist on the peek.
(Reason: You didn't conflict Dota. Now you don't conflict BRVR. In case you didn't notice, FOUR CONSECUTIVE LIBERAL PRESIDENTS were after AlbanixAnubibus.)
(Consequence: EVEN MORE suspicion on GrumpyGoomba. 4 Consecutive Liberal Presidents incoming after Hitler. Absolutely disasterous.)

4. Multiuniverse not picking timurtheking, BRVR, or AlbanixAnubibus.
(Objection: I'll be fair. Albanix was about to be President. BRVR was peeked as Liberal, however-)
(Reason: Not picking a player who had not seen a government put them as informationless during Hitler Zone.)
(Consequence: Liberals, specifically BRVR, not having enough obviousness at Hitler Zone as Liberal because you didn't let her play. She was checked Liberal.)

5. Multiuniverse not forcing LL when he drew LLF.
(Objection: I'll be fair. Choicing there vs TTR, a President who went blue, is one of the rare times choicing might have been acceptable. This said, you forget:)
(Reason: By Choicing TTR, you allow him to look more Liberal than you if he passes the Liberal policy.)
(Reason 2: If TTR picked Fascist, yes, he all but outs himself as Fascist- but he would have triggered Hitler Zone even sooner. You STILL don't look Liberal for this.)
(Consequence: TTR looking extremely Liberal instead of Multiuniverse.)

6. TimeToReap not playing Fascist on LF.
(Objection: You were worried about throwing away your Liberal cred, and that Multi was likely to peek Albanix or timur- which yes, he really SHOULD, but-)
(Reason: You played the 3rd Liberal policy. For all you knew, Multi drew LFF. That's a 4 blue deck FYPOV. That means there's two more coming, and you played Blue.)
(Reason 2: Multi might not peek Albanix or Timur. When Albanix becomes President, you all but force her to become a Red President. You're her Fascist. She's Hitler.)
(Consequence: You risked too much here. Liberals had a great chance to win by policies. Hitler must look less Liberal now. You won; this was still a mistake.)

7. The Fascists neining AlbanixAnubibus.
(Reason: WHY DO THIS?! She picked timurtheking as her Chancellor! He can signal her!)
(Reason 2: FOUR CONSECUTIVE LIBERAL PRESIDENTS WERE GOING TO FOLLOW HER! SHE WAS YOUR ONLY HOPE AT PUTTING UP ANOTHER GUARENTEED RED!)
(Consequence: This REALLY should have been losing on the spot. Fascists got VERY lucky that Transport missed the last blue. Otherwise, Liberals just win.)

8. The Liberals neining AlbanixAnubibus.
(Reason: Again, you lost information on her for nothing. More or less an echoing of Mistake 1, but this should really should have passed.)
(Consequence: Loss of information on Albanix that the Liberals really needed. Transport draws FFF in her place and looks worse than her now.)

9. transportowiec96 using his Peek power on GrumpyGoomba.
(Reason: Did you not notice that this deck had only 4 claimed blues? You and Grumpy are the only Red Presidents of a 4 Blue deck. FYPOV, he's probably just Fascist.)
(Reason 2: You should have peeked Grumpy if you thought there was a good chance a Blue president tossed. You didn't. The deck has a 11% chance of LL being on bottom.)
(Consequence: A weak use of the peek power. Grumpy/transport are almost always LvF here, so more information on anyone else would have been stronger.)

10. The Liberals assuming that BRVR was Fascist because transportowiec96 conflicted with GrumpyGoomba.
(Reason: This was just terrible. Multi was the only person who had his head on right about this. BRVR was never involved in the Grumpy/transport conflict. Ever.)
(Reason 2: Even if Grumpy isn't Liberal, Hitler claims people Liberal on Peek a LOT of the time. You never should have assumed anything about her when they conflicted.)
(Consequence: You locked out a Liberal from the game for zero reasons. Worse, you locked out a LIBERAL PEEK from the game. Why???)

11. The Liberals neining BRVR.
(Reason: I already covered most of this in Reason 10. Assuming her to be Fascist was just bad. But worse- now Chemist has to conflict with TTR instead of her.)
(Consequence: Fascists freeze two Liberals for absolute damn free when TTR conflicts Chemist.)

12. Multiuniverse choosing AlbanixAnubibus as Chancellor in Hitler Zone.
(Objection: No, seriously. This is not moderator confirmation bias because I know she's Hitler. You really shouldn't have picked her.)
(Reason: Multi, your reason for the pick was ugh. She's posting game summaries? That means she's experienced at the game. Easily fake-able as Fascist or Hitler.)
(Reason 2: Liberals should have neined because you're in Hitler Zone. Albanix did NOTHING all game. No-Info people should be made President BEFORE Chancellor, if at all.)
(Consequence: Hitler got elected as Chancellor, and the Fascists won.)

Good game, everyone. I enjoyed being your host. I look forward to the next game.

Oh- and for good measure:

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[UzayAltay]

Gg
I was watching The Game
When I saw Multi choose Alba I Said inside " In before Multi is Fascist choosing Hitler now "
Seriously , Why there wasnt much Discussion about who to elect as Chancellor after Hitler Zone ? Like it is The most critical phase of Game as I understand , and Almost no Discussion happened here .

[AlbanixAnubibus]

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[Chemist1422]

I learned a lot wow

Rick if you need a sub for your MU game hit me up