My thoughts about 1.5.11

My thoughts about 1.5.11

Postby chitownmvp01 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:16 pm

I really like the Caldron system. It was fun seeing the Taunt system. Hopefully my teammates don't taunt who we're killing each night as Mafia. I think the silent dousing and doused players appearing as BG/GF/Arso will definitely help increase the Arso's win rate. I also like what you're doing about coin farming.

The only thing I don't like is the Spy/Mafia change. To allow Mafia to discuss strategy, I think the Spy should no longer be allowed to see the Mafia Chat. I do not like the fact that you're confirming the existence of a Spy to the Mafia. However, I am curious to see if there really is a significant difference in discussion in the Mafia Chat knowing that there isn't a Spy. In a 40 second night, I wonder if there will be much of a difference. First thing that comes to mind is easier communication with RMs, especially if the Any is Mafia (in Ranked). Because I would say something like "RM visit 5", but when the Any was Mafia, there would be confusion about which RM I was referring to.

Tl;Dr I like all the changes except for the Spy/Mafia change.
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Re: My thoughts about 1.6

Postby Seruth » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:05 pm

That spy change does even more. Now I know if I can freely investigate as consig and claim invest...
or better stay home.
If I can use an escort claim as Consort...
or rather not, and also stay home unless I am absolutely needed
If I can frame someone...
or not.
If I can forge without being caught....
or not.
And so on. It is actually quite a nerf to spy. If you know there is a spy, you'd not want to visit others unless absolutely necessary(except janitor, because that's self-revealing, and targets kill target).
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Re: My thoughts about 1.6

Postby chitownmvp01 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:06 pm

Seruth wrote:That spy change does even more. Now I know if I can freely investigate as consig and claim invest...
or better stay home.
If I can use an escort claim as Consort...
or rather not, and also stay home unless I am absolutely needed
If I can frame someone...
or not.
If I can forge without being caught....
or not.
And so on. It is actually quite a nerf to spy. If you know there is a spy, you'd not want to visit others unless absolutely necessary(except janitor, because that's self-revealing, and targets kill target).


Uh the Spy can still see who the Mafia visits.
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Re: My thoughts about 1.6

Postby KickTheKurt » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:11 am

chitownmvp01 wrote:
Seruth wrote:That spy change does even more. Now I know if I can freely investigate as consig and claim invest...
or better stay home.
If I can use an escort claim as Consort...
or rather not, and also stay home unless I am absolutely needed
If I can frame someone...
or not.
If I can forge without being caught....
or not.
And so on. It is actually quite a nerf to spy. If you know there is a spy, you'd not want to visit others unless absolutely necessary(except janitor, because that's self-revealing, and targets kill target).


Uh the Spy can still see who the Mafia visits.



...Uhh

You will still know if the spy isn't in the game?

What's your point?
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Re: My thoughts about 1.6

Postby SiakAttack » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:23 am

KickTheKurt wrote:
What's your point?


The point is that whilst the change is a step in the right direction it doesn't fix the issue, all it does is makes the game more swingy based on if there is a spy or not
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Re: My thoughts about 1.5.11

Postby Jerme » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:00 am

SiakAttack wrote:
KickTheKurt wrote:
What's your point?


The point is that whilst the change is a step in the right direction it doesn't fix the issue, all it does is makes the game more swingy based on if there is a spy or not
I agree to that, still it is a step in the "right" direction.
also @chit you might need to change to title to 1.5.11 as this will be the patches name.
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Re: My thoughts about 1.5.11

Postby chitownmvp01 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:11 am

Jerme wrote:
SiakAttack wrote:
KickTheKurt wrote:
What's your point?


The point is that whilst the change is a step in the right direction it doesn't fix the issue, all it does is makes the game more swingy based on if there is a spy or not
I agree to that, still it is a step in the "right" direction.
also @chit you might need to change to title to 1.5.11 as this will be the patches name.


Yeah I changed the title. I thought this was 1.6. And both of you were correct about the point I was trying to make.
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Re: My thoughts about 1.6

Postby Myersvandalay » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:50 pm

SiakAttack wrote:
KickTheKurt wrote:
What's your point?


The point is that whilst the change is a step in the right direction it doesn't fix the issue, all it does is makes the game more swingy based on if there is a spy or not



Well yes, the spy alert lets you know whether your maf roles are completely unusable or not. Which is slightly better than never using them in case they were useless.
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