Revert Jester Immediately

[gasittig]

Whoever thought it was a good idea to change jesters to kill abstainers need to be fired. Change them back.

[Villagerlover]

No

[gasittig]

It's been like this for ages. I don't see the problem with it. If you think it's a jester, inno it. If you think it's the opposite faction. Guilty it.

Sure. Remove more strategy from the game.

Hell. Let Jester choose anyone. Why should inno's be immune?

[Bluedetroyer]

It's been like this for ages. I don't see the problem with it. If you think it's a jester, inno it. If you think it's the opposite faction. Guilty it.

Sure. Remove more strategy from the game.

Hell. Let Jester choose anyone. Why should inno's be immune?

Because they realized it was a jester

[kyuss420]

vote or die fools

[Jackparrot]

I agree. Jester is supposed to be a NE role, and evils usually abstain more often than town. There fore by allowing jester to haunt abstainers, you increase their chance of killing an evil.

Additionally, people who inno are found far more suspicious than people who only abstain. This means that for an evil to save themselfs, they must vote inno, which puts them under suspicion, or abstain/guilty which puts them at risk of being killed.

Futhurmore, by allowing jester to haunt abstainers, more people will vote inno, which decreases the chances of jester getting lynched, and there fore winning.

Finally, people who abstain aren’t sure if the person is guilty or inno. Why should they be at risk if they were never fooled in the first place? Guilty voters were fooled, but not abstainers.

[Bluedetroyer]

It might be so one person can’t just guilty and take it

[MysticMismagius]

All of this is ignoring the reason why it was changed in the first place. Before the change, there would be an endless amount of games where everyone knew the Jester was Jester, so everyone would abstain except for a single person who offered or was commanded to take the hit. This defeated the purpose of the Jester having the ability to haunt someone, as the Town would be the one deciding who gets haunted, not the Jester. Now that Jester can haunt abstainers, there will always be at least two people he can haunt, unless there’s Mayor shenanigans. This throws the whole “taking the hit” strategy that made playing as Jester boring and the possibility of there being a Jester not a problem for Town out the window, where it belongs.

[Descender]

Am I the only one who lynches jesters

[shapesifter13]

All of this is ignoring the reason why it was changed in the first place. Before the change, there would be an endless amount of games where everyone knew the Jester was Jester, so everyone would abstain except for a single person who offered or was commanded to take the hit. This defeated the purpose of the Jester having the ability to haunt someone, as the Town would be the one deciding who gets haunted, not the Jester. Now that Jester can haunt abstainers, there will always be at least two people he can haunt, unless there’s Mayor shenanigans. This throws the whole “taking the hit” strategy that made playing as Jester boring and the possibility of there being a Jester not a problem for Town out the window, where it belongs.

This pretty much sums up any response I would have to this thread.

[NyanCats4Days]

This is a horrible idea

Everyone would always abstain

[Soulshade55r]

Jester shouldn't be neutral evil and neutral benign lmao.

[Transcender]

Jester shouldn't be neutral evil and neutral benign lmao.

Agreed, but a role of Amnesiac/Survivor/Jester wouldnt go so well innit

[lilhomiegaythug]

It's been like this for ages. I don't see the problem with it. If you think it's a jester, inno it. If you think it's the opposite faction. Guilty it.

Sure. Remove more strategy from the game.

Hell. Let Jester choose anyone. Why should inno's be immune?

Because they realized it was a jester

Exactly. Why reward not voting? Abstainers ruin the game and deserve death.