Paid Ranked

[Shockplug]

I understand the challenges you are facing regarding bots, leavers, and game throwers but I'm honestly at the point where I don't think I'm going to play for a bit. I came back after a 1-2 month hiatus and it feels like half of the games have a leaver or an afker. I'm talking about leaving before day 1, presumably when they get a role they don't like. I understand you are working on the trial system and it appears that you are actively banning people based on reports which is fantastic but unfortunately it is just not enough. When one player leaves a game, at best they are NE and only slightly affect NK and Mafia negatively, at worst they are town and affect 8 players negatively. I'd be more than happy to pay a monthly fee to join a ranking queue with paid moderators and low tolerance for bad behavior. I'm fine with bad players making terrible choices, but I'm not OK with blatant throwing.

The other issue is that the ELO system is very poorly designed. Elo systems only work in zero-sum games. Currently it appears that more elo is gained than is lost in any given game, hence the system is not zero-sum.

I love this game but it isn't the game I remember and I'm not enjoying my time anymore.

[id10ts]

"At worst it's a town leaving"

Worst case scenario IMO is mafia leaving. If one maf leaves, generally the entire mafia is buttfucked with no lube. It's annoying enough to get mafia. If one maf leaves, everyone else is demoralized. Then they don't try. Then everyone has a game that's as fun as a colonoscopy.

[Bodhrak]

I have to agree, that currently the number of players leaving and just generally being toxic is still terribly high.

There is barely a point to the report system when you might as well just have every game looked after.
Practically every game has 1-3 gamethrowers and 1+ players otherwise breaking the rules - offensive names, harassment, spamming, you name it.
It's especially bad when the mayority of thrower-reports get deleted because of age, which has just lead to a lot of people not even reporting those anymore or simply seeing it as a ok to leave on NK, NE and even mafia or "boring" roles like Medium.

Oh yeah, paying for ranked or even a monthly subscription is absolutely ridiculous.
You can already see in Coven how long the waiting times are - and that is actual content for 5 bucks.

[Shockplug]

I have to agree, that currently the number of players leaving and just generally being toxic is still terribly high.

There is barely a point to the report system when you might as well just have every game looked after.
Practically every game has 1-3 gamethrowers and 1+ players otherwise breaking the rules - offensive names, harassment, spamming, you name it.
It's especially bad when the mayority of thrower-reports get deleted because of age, which has just lead to a lot of people not even reporting those anymore or simply seeing it as a ok to leave on NK, NE and even mafia or "boring" roles like Medium.

Oh yeah, paying for ranked or even a monthly subscription is absolutely ridiculous.
You can already see in Coven how long the waiting times are - and that is actual content for 5 bucks.

That's a good point about paid ranked, the player base isn't big enough yet. Honestly if they fix the ELO issue it will help with throwing too.

[bleakgh]

"At worst it's a town leaving"

Worst case scenario IMO is mafia leaving. If one maf leaves, generally the entire mafia is buttfucked with no lube. It's annoying enough to get mafia. If one maf leaves, everyone else is demoralized. Then they don't try. Then everyone has a game that's as fun as a colonoscopy.

Worst is jailor leaving.

[Tahee]

Doesn't have to be paid ranked necessarily just needs a priority shift. As of current leaving reports are of the lowest priority, which means they hardly get done, and why they are way more prevalent.

[jucktropy]

Nope. It already cost my soul

[jucktropy]

Nope. It already cost my soul

Maybe if Master Players don't Pay

[Kombinator1991]

They just need harsher punishment for leavers. Posted my idea on other threads. If first leave bans you from ranked for a day, and in 3 days the second leave bans you entirely for 3 days, then people wouldn't risk leaving just, because they got a role they don't like.

"What if my net is unstable?!" Then don't play ranked until it's stabilized. I would give punishment for leavers on non-ranked, but much lighter.

You shouldn't need to report leaver who leaves while alive. System should automatically detect it.

[fable979]

$0.06 per ranked queue would be nice.

[Soulshade55r]

How about they have to play 200 games and 50 of them have to be RP.

[Shockplug]

They just need harsher punishment for leavers. Posted my idea on other threads. If first leave bans you from ranked for a day, and in 3 days the second leave bans you entirely for 3 days, then people wouldn't risk leaving just, because they got a role they don't like.

"What if my net is unstable?!" Then don't play ranked until it's stabilized. I would give punishment for leavers on non-ranked, but much lighter.

You shouldn't need to report leaver who leaves while alive. System should automatically detect it.

Maybe first ban is for an hour but yea I agree with the concept.

[zzjay]

Paid is nonsense...
The more you play the more you pay.
Tgey definitely want more players...but yes i totally agree one disconnection get 15 minutes suspension (that wont trigger a formal suspension for account closure). (Sometimes the game dces)

If you have unstable internet,you are definitely not queue again...but if you accidentally do it an dc again:

2nd leave 1 hour
Third leave 3 hours
4th leave -- account suspension (as of now)

Tiers reset daily at 00:00,and will only apply to ranked matches.

Also there's the system of low priority queues...meaning that if you leave a game (or yet better 2) you'll have a longer wait for a queue and you will only be matched with other players that left games nd are in low priority queue.

It's not hard to fix leavers issue...they simply do not care enough,since the devs are probably not ranked players,and instead invest on a unity port...

Questionable choice if you ask me.

[jucktropy]

Paid is nonsense...
The more you play the more you pay.
Tgey definitely want more players...but yes i totally agree one disconnection get 15 minutes suspension (that wont trigger a formal suspension for account closure). (Sometimes the game dces)

If you have unstable internet,you are definitely not queue again...but if you accidentally do it an dc again:

2nd leave 1 hour
Third leave 3 hours
4th leave -- account suspension (as of now)

Tiers reset daily at 00:00,and will only apply to ranked matches.

Also there's the system of low priority queues...meaning that if you leave a game (or yet better 2) you'll have a longer wait for a queue and you will only be matched with other players that left games nd are in low priority queue.

It's not hard to fix leavers issue...they simply do not care enough,since the devs are probably not ranked players,and instead invest on a unity port...

Questionable choice if you ask me.

JC This all punishment for leaving,i mean what will happen to the guys who got crashed or disconnected?

i mean i don't request this

[zzjay]

Paid is nonsense...
The more you play the more you pay.
Tgey definitely want more players...but yes i totally agree one disconnection get 15 minutes suspension (that wont trigger a formal suspension for account closure). (Sometimes the game dces)

If you have unstable internet,you are definitely not queue again...but if you accidentally do it an dc again:

2nd leave 1 hour
Third leave 3 hours
4th leave -- account suspension (as of now)

Tiers reset daily at 00:00,and will only apply to ranked matches.

Also there's the system of low priority queues...meaning that if you leave a game (or yet better 2) you'll have a longer wait for a queue and you will only be matched with other players that left games nd are in low priority queue.

It's not hard to fix leavers issue...they simply do not care enough,since the devs are probably not ranked players,and instead invest on a unity port...

Questionable choice if you ask me.

JC This all punishment for leaving,i mean what will happen to the guys who got crashed or disconnected?

i mean i don't request this

They wait 15 minutes...that won't hurs and will also ensure ur connection is stable enough.

Better than now where leavers get -15 elo instead of -3/4

Disconnections too.

[fwogcarf]

ok i cant play the game anymore