Teamers are seriously ruining this game.

[Frogspawn225]

It's probably that the stupid ones are gone. I see 3-5 people all join the lobby at the same time quite often.

That doesn't mean they are teaming. It just means that they all joined at about the same moment. And even if they are playing together they might not be cheating.
I mean if you don't notice any cheating in the game then why assume that there is some that you overlooked?

I never said that. You twisted my words into your own perspective of what you assume I meant.

Well what was I meant to assume.
You had said that that you thought it was probably all the stupid teamers who had gone and that you still saw groups of people all joining games at once. This implies that you think that they are teaming based of what you had just said.
If that isn't what you meant then I'm sorry but you should try to word your comments better so as to avoid confusion.

[LynchTheGrinch]

I was in a game maybe yesterday, (I reported the users) where the medium and maybe the doctor were working for maf. They kept initiating random lynchings (Which to be honest, the town was INSANELY idiotic for following, and then getting mad when they got random lynched) The Medium was a douchebag, and accused me of being "butthurt" etc. which I suppose since they used that word and pointed out my state of emotion at the current time, makes them superior in every single way and me a whiney little baby.

They totally screwed the game over and gave the win to the GF, Deodat Lawson, nuff said.

[Frogspawn225]

First blatant instance of this phenomenon I've seen was yesterday (maybe I started paying closer attention after reading this thread). First night goes by, not ONE whisper is exchanged and suddenly we get this conversation:

A: Guys, I'm exe and B is sheriff, my target is C so D has to be the serial killer! (what???)
D: You are correct, I don't dispute this
*Town accepts this "crazy" logic; hangs D and indeed, he is the killer*
*I'm so pissed off I spend the rest of the game calling them out for cheating, and refuse to do my job as inv*

Just report them and have done. Refusing to play your role and just accusing them doesn't help the situation.

[Arckas]

Seriously. This game needs a mode where no friends are allowed, period. The cases of cheating we actually detect are people being sloppy and careless about it. Think of how many smarter individuals are actually getting away with this shit.

I personally love playing with friends, but we don't go around cheating. Their really nothing we can do to stop it, other then report it when we see it happen. Don't call them smarter individuals, your giving to much credit to people that have to cheat in order to win the game.

[LevinSnakesRise]

If friends weren't allowed, I think we could see a drastic drop in support and players both for the game.

Minx, Dlive, Entoan, Wade, and others rely on being able to play with friends, hence the names 'Minx and Friends Play' or 'Dlive and Friends Play', etc.

I don't agree with a mode for no friends allowed. I think we just need to teach people how to play correctly and not cheat. If this means they get a temp or perma ban in the end for their cheating, then so be it, but people need to learn cheating will be taken seriously, like with other games.

[stellaluna]

Seriously. This game needs a mode where no friends are allowed, period. The cases of cheating we actually detect are people being sloppy and careless about it. Think of how many smarter individuals are actually getting away with this shit.

If it matters there will be totally private games in the near future.

[Prodiigy]

Metagaming is the reason why SC2 Mafia was ruined, There's good reasons why you would need to vote guilty when your mafia buddy is proven mafia, however several cases of reports in different games can shine the difference between metagaming and strategy, just use the report as much as you can because metagaming becomes obvious and it's the fastest thing that will kill the fun in this game, much like it did in SC2 Mafia.

[LevinSnakesRise]

Metagaming is the reason why SC2 Mafia was ruined, There's good reasons why you would need to vote guilty when your mafia buddy is proven mafia, however several cases of reports in different games can shine the difference between metagaming and strategy, just use the report as much as you can because metagaming becomes obvious and it's the fastest thing that will kill the fun in this game, much like it did in SC2 Mafia.

I would disagree with the 'use as much as you can' because this leads to false-reporting and a bigger work-load for the Devs.

[Prodiigy]

Metagaming is the reason why SC2 Mafia was ruined, There's good reasons why you would need to vote guilty when your mafia buddy is proven mafia, however several cases of reports in different games can shine the difference between metagaming and strategy, just use the report as much as you can because metagaming becomes obvious and it's the fastest thing that will kill the fun in this game, much like it did in SC2 Mafia.

I would disagree with the 'use as much as you can' because this leads to false-reporting and a bigger work-load for the Devs.

Yeah, poor word choice.

[stellaluna]

Then my fellow mafia tells me not to kill the jailor, "as he is my friend and playing with us". In another one, mafia requested me not to kill "his medium friend".

I usually kill such players regardless, which results in the player's mafia buttbuddy outing me to the town.

[Prodiigy]

I'm running into stuff ranging from extremely suspicious to wide open confessions of teaming up literally every other game. People clearly playing against their own roles. Last game I was the mayor, and I revealed and requested that jailor protect me, while all others whisper me their roles. A perfectly valid strategy. The jailor executed me "because I was a bossy faggot".
In another game, the town sheriff was under trial, and the escort claimed to be sheriff in order to discredit him. He was hanged as a result. In yet another, someone claiming to be the jailor vouched for my fellow mafioso, saying that he was in jail last night, and thus couldn't have killed anyone. I raised an eyebrow but initially presumed it was an exe or jester wreaking havoc. Then my fellow mafia tells me not to kill the jailor, "as he is my friend and playing with us". In another one, mafia requested me not to kill "his medium friend". The list goes on and on. I regret to say that this game which I have enjoyed immensely initially is just disheartening and pointless to play at this stage. Until something tangible and effectual is done about this problem, I will be taking my leave.

What do you suggest? This is a game that revolves entirely around the community and encourages playing with your friends.

[Zizos]

I just want to say that stating your skyping someone is listed as a tip in one of the roles on the wiki, heck performing a "mistyped" whisper sounding like you know the person in rl is a tip. Granted I think they should be using tactics related to the game itself and not using outside sources as a tactic. Basically I'm trying to say that just because they tell you they are skyping doesn't really mean they are, good chance though.

[Prodiigy]

I just want to say that stating your skyping someone is listed as a tip in one of the roles on the wiki, heck performing a "mistyped" whisper sounding like you know the person in rl is a tip. Granted I think they should be using tactics related to the game itself and not using outside sources as a tactic. Basically I'm trying to say that just because they tell you they are skyping doesn't really mean they are, good chance though.

Not sure if you can get banned for it saying as a jester but saying you're skyping is a stupid "tactic". As stupid if you were to spam racial slurs every day, it doesn't make it any less against the rules if it's in the wiki.

[Frogspawn225]

I just want to say that stating your skyping someone is listed as a tip in one of the roles on the wiki, heck performing a "mistyped" whisper sounding like you know the person in rl is a tip. Granted I think they should be using tactics related to the game itself and not using outside sources as a tactic. Basically I'm trying to say that just because they tell you they are skyping doesn't really mean they are, good chance though.

Not sure if you can get banned for it saying as a jester but saying you're skyping is a stupid "tactic". As stupid if you were to spam racial slurs every day, it doesn't make it any less against the rules if it's in the wiki.

Yeah the Wiki is done by Fans so information on there, such as that piece, can be wrong.

[Arckas]

I suggest letting people choose for themselves. If they want to play a no friends allowed mode, they can play a no friends allowed mode. If they want to play with friends, they can play against other people who'll also join with their friends. Everyone gets what they want and there's no resentment.

That said, if this was meant as a community game to be played with friends, the design makes about as much sense as a submarine that's meant to fly. The game CANNOT function with people using skype and/or teaming, and yet there's no reliable, not subjective way to detect/prevent people from doing that (other than banning friends altogether, that is). The Spy's abilities are reliant on people using the in-game communication system. Other people are meant to know when people are whispering to each other. Bypassing all that is cheating, no two ways about it.

Remember, that if you all join a game at the same time by clicking on it, chances are somewhat good that you will get into the same game lobby. You really can't change the friends in lobby, or else why would anyone want to play with friends allowed mode? Their not your friends, so why should you go to those types of lobbies. There are better, more alternative ways to crack down on cheating. Currently, that is the report feature that will soon be taken over so that regular, trusted people can assess it.

There is not a function for Skyping, thats never been said. Were trying to prevent Skype cheating in total, its not the games fault, nor and never do we advertise it.

[DarkLegacy]

I've seen it happen a few times. It's much more common on Any Mode as people have a higher chance of getting into the same game. Some use LINE or Skype to communicate with each other instead of doing so in the game. The really dumb ones use similar names or use the same names in every game. It becomes obvious with that added to the picture.

-DarkLegacy

[Bubblestorm]

The absolute worst problem is when your playing as the Blackmailer...

~Blackmail Dan
Jim: Hey Town, Dan is blackmailed, he is Sheriff I am Investigator
~Kill Dan, Blackmail Jim
Bob: Hey Town, Jim is blackmailed this round, here are the checks...
Blackmailer: -___-

[LynchTheGrinch]

The absolute worst problem is when your playing as the Blackmailer...

~Blackmail Dan
Jim: Hey Town, Dan is blackmailed, he is Sheriff I am Investigator
~Kill Dan, Blackmail Jim
Bob: Hey Town, Bob is blackmailed this round, here are the checks...
Blackmailer: -___-

That has never happened to me before.. o.O

Who the F- is Bob? Took him a while to speak up.

Backseat Bob they should call him.

Personally I wouldn't trust someone like that and would assume they are mafia who are trying to pretend their mafia buddy is BMd.

[Makrell]

I dont see teamers that much anymore i think. The report system works, use it.

[Chaoisia]

I see teamers all the time especially within the mafia. One of our mafia will get jailed by the jailor and he will tell the jailor who we are. Next thing I know the jailor is jailing us one by one and killing us.

[Frogspawn225]

I see teamers all the time especially within the mafia. One of our mafia will get jailed by the jailor and he will tell the jailor who we are. Next thing I know the jailor is jailing us one by one and killing us.

Thats more gamethrowing than teaming I think. To me teaming is where people enter a game with a group of friends and then work together in game despite their roles. If they are just giving out the names of the Mafia to people that they don't know thats just gamethrowing in my opinion