ProblemsIRL wrote:Making ranked games more selective is a bad thing, and here's why:
First off, cue times are already pretty long as is (3 mins for me and I purchased the game through steam, which I supposedly have shorter cue times than browser players?). Making ranked more selective with a quiz (or whatever method really) means less players will be playing ranked, meaning cue times will go up even further, meaning more people will be annoyed by longer cue times, meaning more people will be playing ranked practice not wanting to cue for 5 mins, meaning.... You get the point.
Passing a quiz does also not equate to knowing game mechanics. You could hand a 10 question quiz to every ranked newcomer and if they're lucky they get 10 questions they know when there's like 5 questions in the roation that they don't know the answer to. Just get lucky and roll the right questions and you get to play ranked, ezpz. And now don't tell me you want to ask more than 10, ten would already be ridiculous if I could just play ranked practice without as much of a hassle. Seriously, who wants to do that?
Also, you're looking at this problem from the wrong angle. Say you do make ranked games more selective. Let's say you implement this kind of quiz to make sure that the bottom 20% of players for example can't play ranked anymore because they're knowledge of the game wasn't sufficient. All that's going to accomplish is to shift the distribution of people's ranks relative to their skill level. Suddenly the people that were the bottom 21-36% of players are now the botton 20% of the pack playing ranked and people will rage at them for making basic mistakes such as voting up the wrong person as mayor, executing the wrong person as jailor, etc etc.
My point is, no matter who plays ranked, someone HAS to be amongst the worst players in the rotation. And people will rage at them for that and complain on the forums to do something to get them out of ranked. So all you do by filtering out players from ranked is open the doors to complain about new people.
/nosupport
On a side note, I do find it incredibly hypocritical of Sammie to ask for better player selection in ranked when they just yesterday found out that the disguiser has been reworked weeks ago.
As you can see, keeping up to date with game knowledge isn't always a very straightforwards task. People just miss out on things.
This is a social-based game. The fact that there's so many different types of players is what makes Town of Salem what it is. In a way, it's a beautiful reflection of real life. You're gonna meet smart people, dumb people, loud and quiet people. You have to learn to deal with them somehow, both in ToS as well as real life. Sure there's boundaries to what you can and should do, but you can't exactly punish people for being dumb, or maybe just inexperienced?
Instead of trying to get inexperienced players out of ranked, help them. Take them by the hand, lead them through their role, explain their mistakes to them. Less hate and toxicity and more comradeship. Even if they're the Mayor and they wrote the wrong people, they're still your teammates. Help them out.
This quiz would hopefully remove people lynching revealed Mayor(As Town, anyway)
Saying there will always be players worse than others means nothing. Yes, it's true. But what's the worst now shouldn't be so. People should know you don't lynch the Mayor as Town. Those who don't need to play other modes. Once those players are gone, the "Worst" players might just be people who aren't too good at scumreading. Ranked isn't for everyone, and those who really shouldn't be playing it can go play something like Ranked Practice. Ranked isn't the place where you go to learn the game. It's where you go after you HAVE learned the game.
Sammie not knowing the Disguiser rework means nothing, it's not like we'd be the ones designing the questions or anything. It just means Sammie would need to play a bit more or ask someone before going onto Ranked. Which is fair. When you play a video-game, the hardest difficulties aren't always unlocked from the start, you have to complete the other ones first. This is the same thing. You master the basics, and you get to move onto Ranked.
Ranked is for serious players. Not for players who lynch the Mayor because they didn't know.
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