Ranked Mode needs changes

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Does the system of joining Ranked Mode need fixing? Is this a good solution?

Ranked needs to be fixed, and I like this solution.
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Ranked needs to be fixed, but I can think of a better solution, which I'll mention in the comments.
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Ranked is fine, I'm totally cool with playing with n00bs in a mode that's meant for experienced players.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby MaskedPokerFace » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:57 am

HereThereEverywhere wrote:
MaskedPokerFace wrote:ranked just protects you from Custom game modes and multi account user abit.thats all.and about ELO
your elo is meaningless for other users.Elo is your proven success to yourself.it doesnt give you a prize.

Your ELO is meaningless because it's broken.
It's not just for you, it's to match you with people who have similar ELO.
The prize is that good players are supposed to be with other good players, and bad with bad.
But again, it's broken.

so itis meaningless again.
i always offered this ,there must be Rooms in Lobby as Poker games with Level of Elo .
that makes elo meaningful.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:35 am

MaskedPokerFace wrote:
HereThereEverywhere wrote:
MaskedPokerFace wrote:ranked just protects you from Custom game modes and multi account user abit.thats all.and about ELO
your elo is meaningless for other users.Elo is your proven success to yourself.it doesnt give you a prize.

Your ELO is meaningless because it's broken.
It's not just for you, it's to match you with people who have similar ELO.
The prize is that good players are supposed to be with other good players, and bad with bad.
But again, it's broken.

so itis meaningless again.
i always offered this ,there must be Rooms in Lobby as Poker games with Level of Elo .
that makes elo meaningful.

That's brilliant!
Lets make it so you can choose who you play with in Ranked!
That thing they purposely don't let you do because that undermines the purpose OF Ranked!
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby MaskedPokerFace » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:16 am

HereThereEverywhere wrote:
MaskedPokerFace wrote:
HereThereEverywhere wrote:
MaskedPokerFace wrote:ranked just protects you from Custom game modes and multi account user abit.thats all.and about ELO
your elo is meaningless for other users.Elo is your proven success to yourself.it doesnt give you a prize.

Your ELO is meaningless because it's broken.
It's not just for you, it's to match you with people who have similar ELO.
The prize is that good players are supposed to be with other good players, and bad with bad.
But again, it's broken.

so itis meaningless again.
i always offered this ,there must be Rooms in Lobby as Poker games with Level of Elo .
that makes elo meaningful.

That's brilliant!
Lets make it so you can choose who you play with in Ranked!
That thing they purposely don't let you do because that undermines the purpose OF Ranked!


"Lets make it so you can choose who you play with in Ranked!"
idont mean it
there are 15000 users in game lobby that means 1000 rooms.
1500 users can be in high level ,that makes 10 rooms, and he can choose a room to play with high level
if you are rookie one you gotta join low level class and you wont disturb high level players
after choose a level in lobby ,it will randomly sent you 5 rooms of high level players or low level players.
now you cant collect your friends this room,your friend levels cant be same level as your level
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:16 pm

We just need Ranked fixed, you shouldn't be picking anything, it should all be completely random, except for the skill levels of players you play with.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby MaskedPokerFace » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:27 pm

HereThereEverywhere wrote:We just need Ranked fixed, you shouldn't be picking anything, it should all be completely random, except for the skill levels of players you play with.

Default Ranked system Totally random.So what are you crying For?
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:53 pm

MaskedPokerFace wrote:
HereThereEverywhere wrote:We just need Ranked fixed, you shouldn't be picking anything, it should all be completely random, except for the skill levels of players you play with.

Default Ranked system Totally random.So what are you crying For?

You want rooms, that doesn't sound random to me.
The way it's supposed to work now is fine, they just need to fix ELO. They don't need a new matchmaking system.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby MaskedPokerFace » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:14 pm

My idea is
People dont care Elo and coins,People care fair play and Fun.Mostly fair play,
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:17 pm

MaskedPokerFace wrote:My idea is
People dont care Elo and coins,People care fair play and Fun.Mostly fair play,

People don't care about ELO?
That's a lie.
Ranked is just Ranked Practice with ELO.
If people didn't care about ELO, they wouldn't play Ranked, they'd play Ranked Practice.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby Damafaud » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:58 pm

MaskedPokerFace wrote:My idea is
People dont care Elo and coins,People care fair play and Fun.Mostly fair play,


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That statement contradict this evidence!

If people don't care about Elo and coins, Ranked Players and Coin Farmers will not exist.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:46 pm

Damafaud wrote:
MaskedPokerFace wrote:My idea is
People dont care Elo and coins,People care fair play and Fun.Mostly fair play,



That statement contradict this evidence!

If people don't care about Elo and coins, Ranked Players and Coin Farmers will not exist.

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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby MaskedPokerFace » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:54 am

HereThereEverywhere wrote:
MaskedPokerFace wrote:My idea is
People dont care Elo and coins,People care fair play and Fun.Mostly fair play,

People don't care about ELO?
That's a lie.
Ranked is just Ranked Practice with ELO.
If people didn't care about ELO, they wouldn't play Ranked, they'd play Ranked Practice.

Do you Care about your elo or coins?
if you do,you are playing this game for coins and elo.
that makes you a farmer player.Farmer players just waste their times if they dont enjoy with game.
ELO ranking ? what does it mean for you? you think Are you allwinning your all games alone? This is a team game.so Elo doesnt show you your real ranking.
sometime your team friends are throwing game sometimes others team mates. or their connectons fails.So? Your elo is really your elo? what left?Just Fun.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:47 am

MaskedPokerFace wrote:
HereThereEverywhere wrote:
MaskedPokerFace wrote:My idea is
People dont care Elo and coins,People care fair play and Fun.Mostly fair play,

People don't care about ELO?
That's a lie.
Ranked is just Ranked Practice with ELO.
If people didn't care about ELO, they wouldn't play Ranked, they'd play Ranked Practice.

Do you Care about your elo or coins?
if you do,you are playing this game for coins and elo.
that makes you a farmer player.Farmer players just waste their times if they dont enjoy with game.
ELO ranking ? what does it mean for you? you think Are you allwinning your all games alone? This is a team game.so Elo doesnt show you your real ranking.
sometime your team friends are throwing game sometimes others team mates. or their connectons fails.So? Your elo is really your elo? what left?Just Fun.

since you are playing this game with 14 other people it is highly likely that they are tryhards or assholes so rip your fun. also you cant have fun if the game isnt balanced
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby ProblemsIRL » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:00 pm

randomguyhavingfun wrote:since you are playing this game with 14 other people it is highly likely that they are tryhards or assholes so rip your fun. also you cant have fun if the game isnt balanced


That's not true at all, the game is highly unbalanced as of now and I'm still enjoying it very thoroughly. I bet I'm not the only one.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby MaskedPokerFace » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:38 pm

randomguyhavingfun wrote:
MaskedPokerFace wrote:
HereThereEverywhere wrote:
MaskedPokerFace wrote:My idea is
People dont care Elo and coins,People care fair play and Fun.Mostly fair play,

People don't care about ELO?
That's a lie.
Ranked is just Ranked Practice with ELO.
If people didn't care about ELO, they wouldn't play Ranked, they'd play Ranked Practice.

Do you Care about your elo or coins?
if you do,you are playing this game for coins and elo.
that makes you a farmer player.Farmer players just waste their times if they dont enjoy with game.
ELO ranking ? what does it mean for you? you think Are you allwinning your all games alone? This is a team game.so Elo doesnt show you your real ranking.
sometime your team friends are throwing game sometimes others team mates. or their connectons fails.So? Your elo is really your elo? what left?Just Fun.

since you are playing this game with 14 other people it is highly likely that they are tryhards or assholes so rip your fun. also you cant have fun if the game isnt balanced

uhmm? sorry but what are you about game isnt balanced in ranked? random players are playing ranked who they are in same elo with you.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby 1000unicorns » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:20 pm

I have endless support for this. Despite my low ELO, I could get those questions correct. I'm tired of playing with game throwing jailers who execute me while I'm confirmed along with afk maf. Many of these people with low ELO that I have seen are such noobs it's hard to believe they are even out of classic. Tbh, many of them belong in classic. The games around 1,100 ELO are hell, and it's either impossible to win because you're playing with gamethorwers, or it's easy to win because the town is gullible.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:50 am

1000unicorns wrote:I have endless support for this. Despite my low ELO, I could get those questions correct. I'm tired of playing with game throwing jailers who execute me while I'm confirmed along with afk maf. Many of these people with low ELO that I have seen are such noobs it's hard to believe they are even out of classic. Tbh, many of them belong in classic. The games around 1,100 ELO are hell, and it's either impossible to win because you're playing with gamethorwers, or it's easy to win because the town is gullible.

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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby xUltiix » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:38 am

1000unicorns wrote:I have endless support for this. Despite my low ELO, I could get those questions correct. I'm tired of playing with game throwing jailers who execute me while I'm confirmed along with afk maf. Many of these people with low ELO that I have seen are such noobs it's hard to believe they are even out of classic. Tbh, many of them belong in classic. The games around 1,100 ELO are hell, and it's either impossible to win because you're playing with gamethorwers, or it's easy to win because the town is gullible.

You get out of elo hell by being able to carry shit towns.
The exceptional players who reach 1400+ get out of 1200 or elo hell by carrying.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby WittyRecluse » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:01 am

xUltiix wrote:
1000unicorns wrote:I have endless support for this. Despite my low ELO, I could get those questions correct. I'm tired of playing with game throwing jailers who execute me while I'm confirmed along with afk maf. Many of these people with low ELO that I have seen are such noobs it's hard to believe they are even out of classic. Tbh, many of them belong in classic. The games around 1,100 ELO are hell, and it's either impossible to win because you're playing with gamethorwers, or it's easy to win because the town is gullible.

You get out of elo hell by being able to carry shit towns.
The exceptional players who reach 1400+ get out of 1200 or elo hell by carrying.

Yep. You're going to need a carry a lot to get out of 1080 where I ww before going up 1000 elo.


Also this test is really not very good, the answers you have are blatantly wrong in some cases and depend on evils being bad players (i.e. Claiming within investigation results, NB siding with town, and so on).
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:31 am

Did you read the note on the first page, Recluse?
Note: Some people fail to understand that these are EXAMPLE questions, to show the format of the questions and the kind of material that will be covered on the test. These specific questions may not be featured in the actual test, if it's implemented.


Also "evils being bad players"
"NB siding with town"
Yeah NB is so evil and siding with Town is such a bad move.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby WittyRecluse » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:36 pm

HereThereEverywhere wrote:Did you read the note on the first page, Recluse?
Note: Some people fail to understand that these are EXAMPLE questions, to show the format of the questions and the kind of material that will be covered on the test. These specific questions may not be featured in the actual test, if it's implemented.


Also "evils being bad players"
"NB siding with town"
Yeah NB is so evil and siding with Town is such a bad move.

The point is evils don't play predictably in high elo, they don't claim in investigation results, NB never sides town, and Jailors don't random jail so they should often execute every night.

A test like this assumes that players - esspecially evils - are predictable, passive, and formulaic, which good players are not.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:41 pm

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Question: What does it mean when a Veteran dies to a Veteran at night?
A) One Veteran went on alert and shot the other
B) A Witch controlled one to the other
C) A Disguiser visited the Veteran when they alerted
D) Some fourth option

Those are example questions. We can use actual mechanics in the test.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby WittyRecluse » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:45 pm

HereThereEverywhere wrote:...
Question: What does it mean when a Veteran dies to a Veteran at night?
A) One Veteran went on alert and shot the other
B) A Witch controlled one to the other
C) A Disguiser visited the Veteran when they alerted
D) Some fourth option

Those are example questions. We can use actual mechanics in the test.

Yeah I'd support mechanics questions, just not strategy ones.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby testaccount1234 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:14 am

This would just make the town win-rate go hella higher
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby Seruth » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:35 am

testaccount1234 wrote:This would just make the town win-rate go hella higher

Then the solution is to fix this AND the town win rate afterwards. Players who fail basic knowledge tests should not be in ranked- they remove fun.
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Re: Ranked Mode needs changes

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:52 pm

testaccount1234 wrote:This would just make the town win-rate go hella higher

That doesn't mean we should keep stupi- sorry, 'uninformed' players from Ranked. It just means Ranked needs more changes than just this.
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