TuNa36 wrote:First of all. I did take a break from TOS but this gamemode is what brought me back here, and I think I need to state what's wrong in this gamemode.
1. Classic TT is too Town-sided.
Without a TK tt or a Mayor TT , Mafia barely can win with numbers. In Coven TT they can win with numbers, with any kind of tt because coven has enough killpower. But for Mafia, I think another random mafia is needed.
2. Witch doesn't know who Mafia or TT is.
Witch not knowing the evils leads to some terrible endings for the Mafia like a Mafia member/TT gets controlled into a Veteran, or a Vigilante gets witched into shooting the TT and vice versa. This doesnt happen in Coven TT because all evils know each other. Spesifically for Classic TT witch needs to know their teammates imo.
Also. Witch win condition should work when it is an evil win, even while dead because sometimes Witch dies but Mafia wins sadly Witch ends up losing because of dying.
3. Vet meta.
Veteran meta is too overwhelming for the TT to win , basically if you refuse to visit Veteran you are automatically flagged as TT and if TT is a visiting role they dont have a chance to win. I personally don't have an idea how to cope with this at the moment, but if I have I will edit this.
Descender wrote:am i the only one who thinks its pretty ok balance wise
CapWarrior2 wrote:Descender wrote:am i the only one who thinks its pretty ok balance wise
I think it is alright, the timer is definently the most broken, and I would argue the only broken thing because that's where all the problems are. But playing wise it is fun, maybe not as fun when your the Mayor and get lynched every time...
Descender wrote:CapWarrior2 wrote:Descender wrote:am i the only one who thinks its pretty ok balance wise
I think it is alright, the timer is definently the most broken, and I would argue the only broken thing because that's where all the problems are. But playing wise it is fun, maybe not as fun when your the Mayor and get lynched every time...
im pretty sure the timer was a temporary fix that they just never fixed
kyuss420 wrote:Descender wrote:CapWarrior2 wrote:Descender wrote:am i the only one who thinks its pretty ok balance wise
I think it is alright, the timer is definently the most broken, and I would argue the only broken thing because that's where all the problems are. But playing wise it is fun, maybe not as fun when your the Mayor and get lynched every time...
im pretty sure the timer was a temporary fix that they just never fixed
No, the timer was put in place to fix another meta, that just drew the game to 10/11+ nights every time the tt wasnt jailor, mayor or TK, and was pretty much an insta loss for maf if the TT was jailor, mayor or TK.
Which was worse with the old ret, as ret would revive a townie (usually TP), both would be confirmed, then they just lynch everyone except ret/revived player (who were protected by TPs over any other role). Basically jailor was the first townie lynched, then mayor, then TKs. This meta can still exist, all it takes is a doc/crus to heal someone from an attack early game, and you have 2 confirmed townies.... (If any TP ever dares to go off the jailor anymore....)
Descender wrote:yes but being a town traitor is sorta broken so its balanced
not balanced in a fun way, but it is
Yemac wrote:Descender wrote:yes but being a town traitor is sorta broken so its balanced
not balanced in a fun way, but it is
Only with strong TT's. The fact that the best strat is for mafia to suicide/leave and TT coutner to start is problematic
dolphina wrote:i like it but i also don’t like it because coven/mafia throws sometimes
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Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
Joacgroso wrote:I don't get it. Can't the TT simply not count the messages sent at night? They can't be that hard to spot. Also, why is this only used against TT? Can't it be used to catch mafia/coven/vamps too?
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
Joacgroso wrote:I feel like I went from Light Yagami to Keiichi Maebara.
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