by SilverCruz » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:04 am
Something like the "5 Town vs. a Godfather and Witch". Un/Ranked, only Godfather and Witch left, Mafioso, both RMs, and Executioner are out.
I will admit freely rounds can swing in ways they don't seem like they should. I had a Classic game as Godfather that I had no right winning because the Mafioso quit Day 1 and the Framer got sacked kind of early, plus the Vigilante and Veteran dying early so both non-static Town roles were gone instantly. I ended up having the sheer dumb luck not getting splattered shooting the Veteran Night 1, the sheer dumb luck of never getting jailed, the sheer dumb luck of catching a Jailor claim, the sheer dumb luck that the Doctor decided to self-heal instead of covering them (with a dead Lookout) so I was able to smack them, then the sheer dumb luck of being able to smack the Investigator, the sheer dumb luck of having not been investigated in time (I don't know what they did the night I smacked them), the sheer dumb luck of the Town, for some reason, just rolling with me railing off against the Doctor and insisting that they're a phony for no reason (I threw in a "What if I'm counterclaiming?", but I don't feel like anyone caught it since nobody ever brought it up), then the sheer dumb luck of, when it was me, the Jester, the Sheriff, and the Medium, managing to get the Sheriff and Medium to roll with me dumping heat onto the Jester (I and them had no claims, so it was either-or to them, I suppose), then finally the sheer dumb luck of both of them voting Guilty so that I got my Innocent through and was able to close that in victory. If this game supported saving replays, I would've kept that one.
That all said, sheer dumb luck is the key phrase there. The match in my eyes was already invalidated when the Mafioso quit and the game decided "Guess they'll die." instead of letting me use them as a sockpuppet or something, and is a complete anomaly, as in ninety-nine out of a hundred other rounds, I would've been completely hosed. I don't remember the exact sequence of events, so I don't remember if the Investigator got shot first or the Doctor got lynched first, but all the same.
As for me, I don't have Coven. I don't want Coven. I don't play Ranked because I don't like that kind of competition, I stick to Un/Ranked because it's the only normal Role List that isn't Classic, and occasionally Classic because it's the only normal Role List that has a Neutral Killing. Would I get Coven if it were being sold for Town Points and some contrivance resulted in me having enough to afford it with Town Points? Sure! But I'm not paying out of pocket for it because I don't respect this game. That I continue to play it at all is a fluke of the fact that I never got thrown out for having never paid for it, and if I were told "Buy Web, Steam, or iOS Premium or you can't play anymore.", I would respond to that with "Bye then." and walk without a second thought. This game isn't worth the five USD buy-in because at its core, it's a neglected live service with developers that are too busy working on something that they refuse to elaborate upon in an immediate fashion and which doesn't seem like it'll address any of the standing problems. as well as having an already anemic playerbase that's been divided thanks to a second paywall.
People aren't happy with this game. Figure out why and address those reasons instead of just punishing them for not enjoying it. The game will be better off that way. Or don't, and just let the game keep ruining matches by killing off Mafia quits on the spot, leave the Almighty Wesley Jailor a blatantly broken and overpowered combination of Escort and Vigilante that is objectively superior to both of them in every way on top of having an Investigative ability that no other role has, leave the Framer a pathetic joke, leave the Disguiser being a role that actively sells out its allies once it dies if there's a Spy, leave the Sheriff blatantly inferior to his peers, leave the Godfather and Mafioso being boring as sin and the Mafioso in particular only existing because of the Escort and Almighty Wesley Jailor, leave the Medium having no answer to players quitting after they die when there's an obvious solution to sidestep that issue by just having them get auto-generated Last Wills from visiting dead players, leave everything as it is. I'm sure that'll be fine too.
I know what I'm doing, generally, but I have no grace at all when things start to spin out of control.
I'd like to address the latter part, but I wouldn't know the first thing about that.