OreCreeper wrote:Personally, I believe that the godfather should be able to choose who performs the faction kill as a day ability.
I disagree on the rework to forger and janitor. The reason charges exist is to limit the number of times a role can perform their ability, not the number of times a role can perform their ability successfully. If this was implemented, does that mean that vigilantes should get a "refund" if they shoot an immune role? Does that mean that doctors/bodyguards/survivors should get a refund on their self-protection if they're not attacked? If a guardian angel watches over their target and they aren't attacked, should they be allowed to keep that protection?
Also disguiser and framer can't exist as they currently do. Disguiser and framer are one and the same right now. They both directly alter TI information, except disguiser is like way better at it. I feel like framer should be given disguiser's current abilities and disguiser should be reworked back to, well, an actual disguiser. Not a "make mafia appear innocent" framer, because that should've been framer's job in the first place. The original disguiser rework that allows disguiser to change the role of another player once was a good rework, idk why they gave it to forger. It does the job of casting doubt on role flips better than the forger buff because it affected lynching, so disguiser can disguise a town member as a mafia member, and mafia can push a mislynch on them by claiming sheriff and calling them sus or whatever, and then become "confirmed sheriff" when the town member flips as mafia. Forger buff doesn't really solve any of the problems of mass claiming meta making the role weak, since they can't make their targets appear as an evil role since mafia can't die to mafia, neither can exe. Witch can, but only if they're attacked twice, and can be easily disproven when people still claim witched. And if they forge their target as a townie, and that townie has previously claimed a different role, forger is outed.
1. Then the mafia becomes dependent on the godfather, doesn't fix any issues
2. Forger/Janitor minor buffs not reworks, Mainly because Forger especially can get unlucky and bad mafia screws up who they visit sometimes, in addition Mafioso rework can be used to troll forgers or limited use mafia
3. Disguiser is fine, I think Disguiser shpuld primarly be about hiding mafia, while framer should be framing players old Disguiser was stupid and made no real sense all it could do was impact the game once dead, forger rework isn't "weak" idk what you are smoking its actually really good that forger isn't only situationally useful the best part about forger is they can screw with roles and make the claim space not make sense and cause miss lynches