Suggest balanced ideas to end jailor meta

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Re: Suggest balanced ideas to end jailor meta

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:42 am

StlnSP wrote:Ban the word "Jailor" for jailor and make them reveal like mayor. 10/10


So jailor is obligated to reveal and cant play hidden
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Re: Suggest balanced ideas to end jailor meta

Postby Robbytherobot » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:08 am

Nah that confirms another townie, jailor can be faked.
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Re: Suggest balanced ideas to end jailor meta

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:49 am

kyuss420 wrote:so? It should be useless. It still has the ability to confirm 3 town slots, thats 1/3 of the role list.... you asked how to balance that, and I told you the only way it can be done mathematically....

So you want a way to make the role that can confirm 1/3 of the role list day 2, to be ''balanced'' but not ''useless''? The role is totally unbalanced to start with....there is no way of balancing the role, without making it ''useless'' (If you consider confirming 1 player per night, useless)

As it is now, LO can still confirm 5/9ths of the town day 2...all the nerf did was drop the rate (that jailor could exe an evil night 2, by choosing at random) from 66% chance to 55% chance. Seeing 2 roles visit would drop it to 45% chance, seeing 1 visit would drop it to a 33% chance.

Idk....I think a 33% chance is more balanced, than useless... much more balanced than a 50%+


Not really, I have seen some good reworks to make it more balanced without making it useless, without to mention that seeing 1 visit increases RNG by a lot
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Re: Suggest balanced ideas to end jailor meta

Postby cob709 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:26 pm

remove jailor role from town of salem
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Re: Suggest balanced ideas to end jailor meta

Postby kyuss420 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:10 pm

cob709 wrote:remove jailor role from town of salem


Noobs cant ToS without a jailor in game tho.....
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Re: Suggest balanced ideas to end jailor meta

Postby Lachek » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:52 am

Another game I didn't claim jailor and was reported by others after I died n1.
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Re: Suggest balanced ideas to end jailor meta

Postby Lachek » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:14 am

I think since doctor is stronger tp than bg in this meta since he is better claim and won't die after protecting target, I think doctor can be nerfed by not leting him nurse same target twice in a row.
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Re: Suggest balanced ideas to end jailor meta

Postby StlnSP » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:18 am

Lachek wrote:Another game I didn't claim jailor and was reported by others after I died n1.

Personally : git gud scrub why would you not abuse broken shit

But seriously: you probably won't get banned for not claiming jailor. That is a bad strategy, but it's not gamethrowing.
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Re: Suggest balanced ideas to end jailor meta

Postby Cookazoo2 » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:43 pm

Jailor can't jail the night after they execute someone because they're "cleaning the cell."

Think about your jails before you exe.
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Re: Suggest balanced ideas to end jailor meta

Postby OreCreeper » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:54 am

kyuss420 wrote:so? It should be useless. It still has the ability to confirm 3 town slots, thats 1/3 of the role list.... you asked how to balance that, and I told you the only way it can be done mathematically....

So you want a way to make the role that can confirm 1/3 of the role list day 2, to be ''balanced'' but not ''useless''? The role is totally unbalanced to start with....there is no way of balancing the role, without making it ''useless'' (If you consider confirming 1 player per night, useless)

As it is now, LO can still confirm 5/9ths of the town day 2...all the nerf did was drop the rate (that jailor could exe an evil night 2, by choosing at random) from 66% chance to 55% chance. Seeing 2 roles visit would drop it to 45% chance, seeing 1 visit would drop it to a 33% chance.

Idk....I think a 33% chance is more balanced, than useless... much more balanced than a 50%+

Jailor should always execute N2, especially if no evils have died. It's fair to have a "50%+ chance" since if they dont exe N2 that's effectively throwing the game.
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Re: Suggest balanced ideas to end jailor meta

Postby Descender » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:29 pm

StlnSP wrote:
Lachek wrote:Another game I didn't claim jailor and was reported by others after I died n1.

Personally : git gud scrub why would you not abuse broken shit

But seriously: you probably won't get banned for not claiming jailor. That is a bad strategy, but it's not gamethrowing.

not a bad strat if you play your cards right
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