REMOVE TAUNTS

[removetaunts]

Welp, guess you're one sided on this opinion on yours and chose not to hear others. I'm not wasting time on this. I went ahead and reported it cause this is just feels like a troll now. Admins can decide upon it. I'm done.

It was always upon admins. How can I take a different side when in my 3 game, taunts obviously effected the gameplay.I shared my opinion and saying that "I did not encounter that situation" will not change my opinion, of course. I know that I could have also used taunts to confuse people, but I do not have and I do NOT plan to BUY. Enjoy your report and go hope to bring censorship.

[removetaunts]

One note: I did NOT post this topic to argue upon it. I shared my experience and I demanded, as a player, removal of taunts. I literally do not care if you did not experience such a problem, but I did. As far as I understand from the comments, it is not only me, other people did also experience this.

I know the fact that taunts can be bought with both in-game and cash money. However, I think you are missing a point. I do NOT want to spend some coins on some items to affect the game.

I am not the best player, if I was, I would not encounter this situation since people will be more aware of this fact in my games, I know. But anyways, I do not want them to ruin my games whether I am low-elo or not.

[Transcender]

>creates account
>starts posting on multiple threads about removing taunts
>makes a thread for it
>people disagree so it becomes a debate
>gets angry that people are talking about the thing you keep on going on about

[removetaunts]

>creates account
>starts posting on multiple threads about removing taunts
>makes a thread for it
>people disagree so it becomes a debate
>gets angry that people are talking about the thing you keep on going on about

I posted this topic and I commented on another topic and said "Taunts affect the game. They should be removed". That's all. I actually posted on 2 topics, not more.

It is not like people are sharing their opinion, most comments are like, "no there is not such problem and this topic is sh**".

Why people are thinking that I need a looong forum history, 5-year old account with hundreds of posts, to share my idea? Calm down, I just wrote my experience, nothing more.

[Transcender]

>creates account
>starts posting on multiple threads about removing taunts
>makes a thread for it
>people disagree so it becomes a debate
>gets angry that people are talking about the thing you keep on going on about

I posted this topic and I commented on another topic and said "Taunts affect the game. They should be removed". That's all. I actually posted on 2 topics, not more.

It is not like people are sharing their opinion, most comments are like, "no there is not such problem and this topic is sh**".

Why people are thinking that I need a looong forum history, 5-year old account with hundreds of posts, to share my idea? Calm down, I just wrote my experience, nothing more.

you know you can use your own game account to post on the forums
it just seems very dumb

[removetaunts]

>creates account
>starts posting on multiple threads about removing taunts
>makes a thread for it
>people disagree so it becomes a debate
>gets angry that people are talking about the thing you keep on going on about

I posted this topic and I commented on another topic and said "Taunts affect the game. They should be removed". That's all. I actually posted on 2 topics, not more.

It is not like people are sharing their opinion, most comments are like, "no there is not such problem and this topic is sh**".

Why people are thinking that I need a looong forum history, 5-year old account with hundreds of posts, to share my idea? Calm down, I just wrote my experience, nothing more.

you know you can use your own game account to post on the forums
it just seems very dumb

I didn't know that. Sorry for being dumb.

[li1candy]

ok im sorry i didnt read the whole thread, but why remove taunts it's cute LOL

[LevinSnakesRise]

Considering Taunts were part of the KickStarter promises and stretch goals, I can assure you they won't be removed anytime soon. Has nothing to do with money now that you can buy them with Merit Points, so the reasoning "guess they really needed money" is just ignorant and unbiased. They might be edited, and changed here and there, but I can tell you they won't be removed for the foreseeable future.

Also, let's not just judge someone for their username. It should be irrelevant to the discussion at hand; removal of taunts.

[KAKERMAN23]

Bottom line is that dead people shouldn't be able to use taunts.

[mdntranger]

Perhaps a compromise? Allow anyone to use taunts, however...dead people taunting will only show to other dead people. Live people taunting goes to everyone. This will then still require a medium to relay any taunt information back to the living *or* allow a revived person to relay information from the dead.

[KAKERMAN23]

That's... actually not a bad idea.

[orangeandblack5]

Perhaps a compromise? Allow anyone to use taunts, however...dead people taunting will only show to other dead people. Live people taunting goes to everyone. This will then still require a medium to relay any taunt information back to the living *or* allow a revived person to relay information from the dead.

I'm game

[kyuss420]

Perhaps a compromise? Allow anyone to use taunts, however...dead people taunting will only show to other dead people. Live people taunting goes to everyone. This will then still require a medium to relay any taunt information back to the living *or* allow a revived person to relay information from the dead.

Or just leave it as is, as its not really a problem anyway......unless you noob

[removetaunts]

Perhaps a compromise? Allow anyone to use taunts, however...dead people taunting will only show to other dead people. Live people taunting goes to everyone. This will then still require a medium to relay any taunt information back to the living *or* allow a revived person to relay information from the dead.

Or just leave it as is, as its not really a problem anyway......unless you noob

Wow, you really are a pro by knowing how to use taunts haha XD

[kyuss420]

Perhaps a compromise? Allow anyone to use taunts, however...dead people taunting will only show to other dead people. Live people taunting goes to everyone. This will then still require a medium to relay any taunt information back to the living *or* allow a revived person to relay information from the dead.

Or just leave it as is, as its not really a problem anyway......unless you noob

Wow, you really are a pro by knowing how to use taunts haha XD

Nah mate, Im the guy who gets taunted day 2, day 3 and day 4 in any given match (lucky i got a plausible will and claim ready when im evil)

[Transcender]

Perhaps a compromise? Allow anyone to use taunts, however...dead people taunting will only show to other dead people. Live people taunting goes to everyone. This will then still require a medium to relay any taunt information back to the living *or* allow a revived person to relay information from the dead.

this is good, but id just have dead people not waste taunts for no reason

[kyuss420]

so when im evil, i should :

taunt any random player after medusa stones someone.
taunt any random player after a LO dies on a target that was also killed.
taunt the last player named in the sheriffs will, after the sheriff dies. (wow! killing a sheriff is actually useful again!)
taunt the last player named in a trackers will, after a tracker dies.
taunt any medium claim, so it looks like there is no medium.
taunt any random player after an ambusher kill.
taunt 3 random townies, when the psychic dies on an odd numbered night.
taunt a random player, if a vigi dies n2 or later, and say that the vigi must of shot that player.
taunt any player that has a dead person in their will, to make it seem fake.

anything else Ive missed?

[Transcender]

so when im evil, i should :

taunt any random player after medusa stones someone.
taunt any random player after a LO dies on a target that was also killed.
taunt the last player named in the sheriffs will, after the sheriff dies. (wow! killing a sheriff is actually useful again!)
taunt the last player named in a trackers will, after a tracker dies.
taunt any medium claim, so it looks like there is no medium.
taunt any random player after an ambusher kill.
taunt 3 random townies, when the psychic dies on an odd numbered night.
taunt a random player, if a vigi dies n2 or later, and say that the vigi must of shot that player.
taunt any player that has a dead person in their will, to make it seem fake.

anything else Ive missed?

if escort dies to serial killer, taunt the person escort visited because that just damns them

[Superalex11]

so when im evil, i should :

taunt any random player after medusa stones someone.
taunt any random player after a LO dies on a target that was also killed.
taunt the last player named in the sheriffs will, after the sheriff dies. (wow! killing a sheriff is actually useful again!)
taunt the last player named in a trackers will, after a tracker dies.
taunt any medium claim, so it looks like there is no medium.
taunt any random player after an ambusher kill.
taunt 3 random townies, when the psychic dies on an odd numbered night.
taunt a random player, if a vigi dies n2 or later, and say that the vigi must of shot that player.
taunt any player that has a dead person in their will, to make it seem fake.

anything else Ive missed?

You might notice, kyuss, that if you're to follow this strategy it would require you to have multiple taunts stored up and ready for use in each game. Some people might not be able to have so many at hand, and will be at a disadvantage to you.
This advantage, being brought about due to factors external to an individual match, is unfair, and thus a problem.

[Transcender]

so when im evil, i should :

taunt any random player after medusa stones someone.
taunt any random player after a LO dies on a target that was also killed.
taunt the last player named in the sheriffs will, after the sheriff dies. (wow! killing a sheriff is actually useful again!)
taunt the last player named in a trackers will, after a tracker dies.
taunt any medium claim, so it looks like there is no medium.
taunt any random player after an ambusher kill.
taunt 3 random townies, when the psychic dies on an odd numbered night.
taunt a random player, if a vigi dies n2 or later, and say that the vigi must of shot that player.
taunt any player that has a dead person in their will, to make it seem fake.

anything else Ive missed?

You might notice, kyuss, that if you're to follow this strategy it would require you to have multiple taunts stored up and ready for use in each game. Some people might not be able to have so many at hand, and will be at a disadvantage to you.
This advantage, being brought about due to factors external to an individual match, is unfair, and thus a problem.

for ranked, i guess
but you are familiar with the game you are playing right
if alive-dead interactions are allowed taunts are ok

[KAKERMAN23]

I don't get why it's such an issue to stop dead people from being able to taunt living people (at least in a way that the living people can see the taunts). The only thing that does is creates a possibility for information to be spread that shouldn't have left the dead chat in the first place, and the very fact that it is a possibility means that it's a problem. I don't see why dead people should be able to taunt in a manner that the living can see it.

[Transcender]

if the game has retri and medium
the game can have taunts
if you are willing to have some alive-dead interactions there might as well be more alive-dead interactions

[Superalex11]

but you are familiar with the game you are playing right

If by this response you mean to imply that ToS is a game where match outcomes can be affected by mechanics from outside those matches (except for player skill), you're wrong. At present, the only other arguable case is scrolls, as certain roles have more power than others, and increasing the odds of getting those roles can mean increasing the power potential of oneself. But scrolls are also excluded from ranked, so that point is mostly moot regarding the arguments in favor of the status quo.

if alive-dead interactions are allowed taunts are ok

if you are willing to have some alive-dead interactions there might as well be more alive-dead interactions

N-no. The medium role is specifically designed and controlled with the sole goal in mind of dead-living communication, exclusive to its various restraints (e.g. only at night, when not jailed). There are no other dead-living interactions of this category in the game. Zero.
We are willing to have this one dead-living interaction type because it's constructed in a way that supports the game environment fairly.
We are unwilling to have taunts as a dead-living interaction type because they don't support the game environment fairly.

[Robbytherobot]

I agree taunts are funny but should have NO impact on the information the living get, so letting dead see dead taunts is a great solution.

[Transcender]

but you are familiar with the game you are playing right

If by this response you mean to imply that ToS is a game where match outcomes can be affected by mechanics from outside those matches (except for player skill), you're wrong. At present, the only other arguable case is scrolls, as certain roles have more power than others, and increasing the odds of getting those roles can mean increasing the power potential of oneself. But scrolls are also excluded from ranked, so that point is mostly moot regarding the arguments in favor of the status quo.

if alive-dead interactions are allowed taunts are ok

if you are willing to have some alive-dead interactions there might as well be more alive-dead interactions

N-no. The medium role is specifically designed and controlled with the sole goal in mind of dead-living communication, exclusive to its various restraints (e.g. only at night, when not jailed). There are no other dead-living interactions of this category in the game. Zero.
We are willing to have this one dead-living interaction type because it's constructed in a way that supports the game environment fairly.
We are unwilling to have taunts as a dead-living interaction type because they don't support the game environment fairly.

the medium role
should not exist in the first place
alive-dead interactions are bullshit
as long as we have those taunts are not a big enough deal to remove