START BANNING LEAVERS ON N1

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Re: START BANNING LEAVERS ON N1

Postby LayleCB » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:22 am

I've gotten in a couple of debates in games before over this topic when people say "report x for leaving" but from the posts I've read on the forums and having reread the rules several times on the Trial System, you can't really do much about them. It sucks and I hate n1 leavers too, but I've also gotten a bit annoyed at people who parrot "report x for leaving" and throw the game for themselves / the rest of their team because the mafioso or an RM left. Reports for d1/n1 leaving come back inno on the trial system for this reason even if I've noticed they've had a pattern for it before, or more accurately, several more gamethrowing reports which I assume are for the same reason.

The rules clearly state if somebody's intentionally going against their role's goal, it's throwing. Which is why the stipulation that they can't really be punished unless they admit to leaving because of their role makes sense, because you can't really prove it was intentional otherwise. Maybe they got a call saying their grandma is in the hospital. Maybe their internet disconnected. Maybe they were typing out their fake will and accidentally hit the X on the window instead of closing the will. (I've actually had that one happen to me, funnily enough, shocker I didn't get reported for it.)
Maybe most of the time they did leave because of their role, but you can't prove it was intentional unless they said that was why. I wish there were a more justifiable punishment for it like James2 suggested, but the rules in place now makes sense. If d1/n1 leaving really bothers you that much, maybe you should just play Ranked. People don't leave Ranked like that in my experience.
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Re: START BANNING LEAVERS ON N1

Postby James2 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:17 pm

KatiyaKramer wrote:the planned leaver buster (which I believe is one of their top priorities


The "planned leaver buster" has been "one of their top priorities" for over four years.
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Re: START BANNING LEAVERS ON N1

Postby Brilliand » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:57 am

James2 wrote:
KatiyaKramer wrote:the planned leaver buster (which I believe is one of their top priorities


The "planned leaver buster" has been "one of their top priorities" for over four years.


The very top priority has been kind of stuck for a few years.
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Re: START BANNING LEAVERS ON N1

Postby Flavorable » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:38 am

Brilliand wrote:
James2 wrote:
KatiyaKramer wrote:the planned leaver buster (which I believe is one of their top priorities


The "planned leaver buster" has been "one of their top priorities" for over four years.


The very top priority has been kind of stuck for a few years.


It's a top priority AFTER Unity has been rolled out completely.
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Re: START BANNING LEAVERS ON N1

Postby James2 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:06 pm

Flavorable wrote:
Brilliand wrote:
James2 wrote:
KatiyaKramer wrote:the planned leaver buster (which I believe is one of their top priorities


The "planned leaver buster" has been "one of their top priorities" for over four years.


The very top priority has been kind of stuck for a few years.


It's a top priority AFTER Unity has been rolled out completely.


The "leaver buster" had been a "priority" for at least two years when Flash's end-of-life was announced.
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Re: START BANNING LEAVERS ON N1

Postby Yemac » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:48 pm

It seems to me that BMG waits with everything until Unity is done, and even though this is understandable, I think they should also realise that this paves the way for many throwers and leavers.

I do wonder if BMG is also changing the trial system. Is it compatible with the new Unity port or does it need to be changed? (because if it's compatible, I see no reason why there can't be a subsection "Leaving" under reportable offences. This way you could easily see if it's 'just a DC' or an actual leaver)
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Re: START BANNING LEAVERS ON N1

Postby MysticMismagius » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:47 pm

The reason why leaving is no longer reportable is because the devs want to fix the problem as devs, through a leaver-buster system, rather than through the Trial system.

Your first sentence embodies the problem with this.
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Re: START BANNING LEAVERS ON N1

Postby James2 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:32 pm

MysticMismagius wrote:The reason why leaving is no longer reportable is because the devs want to fix the problem as devs, through a leaver-buster system


https://youtu.be/-dDbSyfU_04?t=86
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Re: START BANNING LEAVERS ON N1

Postby Voriki » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:46 am

SantanaTheSmall wrote:Only if they have a history of doing it. I’ve DCd before the game started and have been reported for it. Nothing I can do about that.

People who experience by accident, only have it happen so rarely.

So every time some leaves D1 or N1, a counter increases. Once the counter reaches x amounts of DC's within a time period of y days, you get a warning message on screen. With a short explanation that their leaving ruins a gaming experience for others. So what if you don't like playing a maf member, you do want others to play those roles, so why shouldn't you?
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