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Questions About Items

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:48 pm
by DesertStorm11
Regarding items players can receive, whether it be from puzzle phases or things you can just find around the facility, what items do you guys use? I’ve only been able to think of a few and I’m not sure whether or not they’re good.

Can you guys add some lists of possible items? Thanks!

Edit: For example, the Con Artist can copy items, but the copies don’t work. What kind of items would be useful to duplicate? The Jumper has extra items they can hide, and the Maniac can steal from and plant items on other players. What kind of items can be found, and what would their uses be?

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:16 pm
by Nellyfox
The roles in the Hub are pretty outdated; most games use custom hidden roles now, though some of the concepts do get reused, don't expect the exact roles in a game (although I personally would love to see these used again!).

Common items include knives/scalpels, darts, guns, injection guns (with a sedative). Hosts take some liberties with items (I personally like to come up with creative items such as hookshots/boomerangs to steal items from players, a laser gun that changed function depending on an inserted chip, a gun that stopped all actions currently in process, and a mirror that deflects ranged attacks). What you want to hold onto and duplicate is entirely up to how you want to play the game; what might you find useful to help you succeed wih your wincon?

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:21 pm
by Metrion
Weapons: knives, guns, bullets, etc.
Protection: bulletproof vests, helmets, shields, etc
Buffs: vials of drugs, equipment
Utility: rope, lighter, keys

Duplicating a gun to bluff, or to give out know it wont work. Similarly with any armour. Rope that will give out when used.

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 2:36 pm
by ChubbyMooshroom9
they covered mostly everything i just wanted to call nelly a boomer

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 4:24 pm
by LordofFail
Basically what was already mentioned.

You're going to want a nice blend of short and long ranged weapons (with long ranged weapons typically more powerful as even though they are more likely to miss it is harder for the opponent to get close enough to land a blow if you keep your distance)

Other useful items include night-vision goggles and flashlights for being able to see in dark areas (or see further in dark areas), tracking devices, luminol, and anything else that might be fitting for the setting.

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 4:27 pm
by Hawkwing425
Wait, long ranged weapons are supposed to be more likely to miss?

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 4:34 pm
by LordofFail
It helps for balance purposes for long ranged items to be more likely to miss.

Or for long ranged items to be far more restricted in their distribution because a long ranged item such as a gun or a bow+arrow has a clear advantage over a short ranged weapon like a knife.

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 4:34 pm
by ChubbyMooshroom9
Hawkwing425 wrote:Wait, long ranged weapons are supposed to be more likely to miss?

yes because bows and guns are strong as shit

and ill bet you your white, pasty, NEET ass you've never shot either

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 7:49 pm
by Hawkwing425
up yours, chubby, i HAVE shot a bow. i'm just really bad at it, as i am with many things.

Serious: would a 75%:25% ratio of melee/long-ranged weaponry to be found in the map be good?

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 7:53 pm
by Nellyfox
Hawkwing425 wrote:Wait, long ranged weapons are supposed to be more likely to miss?

Almost as if guns shouldn't be one-action killers. Especially since almost every single VLDR character has never used a gun in their life.

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 8:09 pm
by ChubbyMooshroom9
Nellyfox wrote:
Hawkwing425 wrote:Wait, long ranged weapons are supposed to be more likely to miss?

Almost as if guns shouldn't be one-action killers. Especially since almost every single VLDR character has never used a gun in their life.

^^

Pistols are hard as shit honestly. When I shot a gun, the rifles were a LOT better then the pistols for me. Then again, my brother was the opposite and got it pretty quickly.

Hawkwing425 wrote:up yours, chubby, i HAVE shot a bow. i'm just really bad at it, as i am with many things.

Serious: would a 75%:25% ratio of melee/long-ranged weaponry to be found in the map be good?

Do it off of gut your gut is good

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:10 am
by DesertStorm11
Wow you guys responded quickly. Some good items, too. I'm hosting a ZE on Discord currently and am actually starting it tonight, so thanks for responding quickly!

Nelly you're a boomer ig

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:11 am
by ChubbyMooshroom9
good luck with it, just know that it's a lot of work to host one and can be an absolute slodge at times and you just gotta push through

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 4:20 pm
by DesertStorm11
ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:good luck with it, just know that it's a lot of work to host one and can be an absolute slodge at times and you just gotta push through

I've hosted a few ZE's before, along with several other roleplay games. I just haven't used items all that much in these ones

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 7:58 pm
by LordofFail
DesertStorm11 wrote:Wow you guys responded quickly. Some good items, too. I'm hosting a ZE on Discord currently and am actually starting it tonight, so thanks for responding quickly!

Nelly you're a boomer ig


most of us in the vldr sections are boomers ig

this is where old forumers go to die

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 8:40 pm
by Hawkwing425
can confirm, used to only come here for forum games

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2020 3:45 pm
by TheNiceOne16
Traps and intel gathers devices are appresiated like landmines, or tracking devices.

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 1:14 pm
by DesertStorm11
Do people still actively host and play games on here?

I'm honestly wondering if people would be interested in joining a game I hosted (I'm probably not as good of a host as other people here, even with my experience)

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 1:30 pm
by ChubbyMooshroom9
DesertStorm11 wrote:Do people still actively host and play games on here?

I'm honestly wondering if people would be interested in joining a game I hosted (I'm probably not as good of a host as other people here, even with my experience)

not to be that guy, but if you look at the other topics you'd quickly find your answer is yes

but yeah we still do play, if that's what ur primary question was. can't speak to answer the other one without knowing more details

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 11:54 pm
by DesertStorm11
Oh yeah haha, I guess I was kind of oblivious about the other posts on the board

Re: Questions About Items

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 10:58 am
by LordofFail
you should probably join the vldr discord if you're interested in joining or hosting games, most vldr-related discussions happen there

fair warning - not sure if that invite even works, i just pulled it from the hub. if it doesn't work and you want to join the discord, PM nelly i guess