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Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby DestroyerR225 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:55 am

Stalker (Mafia Support)

Attack: None
Defense: None

Role name: Stalker

Role alignment: Mafia Support

Abilities: Each night, choose a non-Mafia player to stalk.

Attributes:
•You will receive all messages your target receives that night.
•You will know who your target targeted that night.
•Your ability still works if your target is jailed.
•If there are no kill-capable Mafia roles left, you will become a Mafioso.

Special attributes: None

Investigative results:
Investigator - Your target could be a Lookout, Forger, Amnesiac, or Stalker.
Sheriff - Your target is a member of the Mafia!
Witch/Consig - Your target follows others with malicious intent. They must be a Stalker.

Goal: Normal Mafia goal

Wins with: Normal Mafia win con

Notifications:
Spoiler: For Stalker:
You have decided to stalk [name] tonight.
You have instead decided to stalk [name] tonight.
Your target received the message: [message]
Your target targeted [name].
Your target targeted [name] and [name].


Thoughts?
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby lemonader666 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:23 am

Why is this role needed? It's just a buffed tracker, and mafia doesn't need a buffed tracker. Town already has spy/tracker and the mafia can already gain those types of info from them.
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby DestroyerR225 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:40 am

I don’t make roles based on if they are needed in the game. I make them based on whether they are interesting and could work in the game.
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby lemonader666 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:43 am

DestroyerR225 wrote:I don’t make roles based on if they are needed in the game. I make them based on whether they are interested and could work in the game.

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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby DestroyerR225 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:48 am

lemonader666 wrote:
DestroyerR225 wrote:I don’t make roles based on if they are needed in the game. I make them based on whether they are interested and could work in the game.

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What?

Oh, and BTW
lemonader666 wrote:Town already has spy/tracker and the mafia can already gain those types of info from them.

How, exactly?
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby lemonader666 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:03 am

DestroyerR225 wrote:Oh, and BTW
lemonader666 wrote:Town already has spy/tracker and the mafia can already gain those types of info from them.

How, exactly?

By having the spy/tracker share their info through claims. Those kind info aren't that necessary for mafia anyway
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby DestroyerR225 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:21 am

Info from spy/tracker can’t compare to consistent info from a Mafia member. Also, you can’t say that kind of info is never useful for the Mafia, since there are many, many situations (too many to list) where this info may help Mafia a lot.
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby lemonader666 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:27 am

DestroyerR225 wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:
DestroyerR225 wrote:I don’t make roles based on if they are needed in the game. I make them based on whether they are interested and could work in the game.

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What?

If you only care about that part of rolemaking then you might as well go back to that shithole
DestroyerR225 wrote:Info from spy/tracker can’t compare to consistent info from a Mafia member

Doesn't mean a mafia tracker is needed, town wouldn't lie for no reason
DestroyerR225 wrote:Also, you can’t say that kind of info is never useful for the Mafia, since there are many, many situations (too many to list) where this info may help Mafia a lot.

List them or fuck off
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby DestroyerR225 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:56 am

Or I could just ignore you for your toxic and childish behavior. Yeah, I think I’m gonna do just that.
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby lemonader666 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:17 am

DestroyerR225 wrote:Or I could just ignore you for your toxic and childish behavior. Yeah, I think I’m gonna do just that.

All I see is "Hurr durr my role is good and your opinion is shit"
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby BasicFourLife » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:39 am

This is role is quite overpowered. It’s basically a Mafia which tracks people, receives all of their night feedback and knows their night results finding out immediately if they are a TI role and bypasses jailed targets. This is a buffed Agent overall.
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby DestroyerR225 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:46 am

Yes, it’s everything you said, but how is it overpowered? And what’s Agent?
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby BasicFourLife » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:57 am

DestroyerR225 wrote:Yes, it’s everything you said, but how is it overpowered? And what’s Agent?

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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby Soulshade55r » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:57 am

Nah this role is just Tracker give it the Lookout ability also which would be lit because Tracker and Lookout are too self confirmable also goes agenist the Jailor meta
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby DestroyerR225 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:04 am

But this does way more than a Tracker. And excuse me for my ignorance, what is the Jailor meta, exactly?
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby Soulshade55r » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:06 am

DestroyerR225 wrote:But this does way more than a Tracker. And excuse me for my ignorance, what is the Jailor meta, exactly?


HI JAILOR TP/LO ON ME

with a Mafia Lookout it would combat this finding all the roles on Jailor and killing them off
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby BasicFourLife » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:07 am

DestroyerR225 wrote:But this does way more than a Tracker. And excuse me for my ignorance, what is the Jailor meta, exactly?

Jailor claims their role Day 1.
>All Lookouts, Spies, Escorts, Transporters, Doctors, Bodyguards become confirmed on Night 1.
>From there on out you can easily gamesolve.
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby DestroyerR225 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:08 am

BasicFourLife wrote:
DestroyerR225 wrote:Yes, it’s everything you said, but how is it overpowered? And what’s Agent?

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=44746

But you can’t say this role isn’t balanced just because there is another (custom) role that is weaker... it’s two different ideas!
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby BasicFourLife » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:09 am

DestroyerR225 wrote:
BasicFourLife wrote:
DestroyerR225 wrote:Yes, it’s everything you said, but how is it overpowered? And what’s Agent?

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=44746

But you can’t say this role isn’t balanced just because there is another (custom) role that is weaker... it’s two different ideas!

But the other idea was balanced by the most professionals out there.
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby DestroyerR225 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:11 am

Soulshade55r wrote:
DestroyerR225 wrote:But this does way more than a Tracker. And excuse me for my ignorance, what is the Jailor meta, exactly?


HI JAILOR TP/LO ON ME

with a Mafia Lookout it would combat this finding all the roles on Jailor and killing them off

Still don’t understand what this role has to do with it. Unless you’re suggesting a Mafia lookout, in which case you could do a role like that!
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby BasicFourLife » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:13 am

DestroyerR225 wrote:
Soulshade55r wrote:
DestroyerR225 wrote:But this does way more than a Tracker. And excuse me for my ignorance, what is the Jailor meta, exactly?


HI JAILOR TP/LO ON ME

with a Mafia Lookout it would combat this finding all the roles on Jailor and killing them off

Still don’t understand what this role has to do with it. Unless you’re suggesting a Mafia lookout, in which case you could do a role like that!

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=20013
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby DestroyerR225 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:18 am

BasicFourLife wrote:
DestroyerR225 wrote:
BasicFourLife wrote:
DestroyerR225 wrote:Yes, it’s everything you said, but how is it overpowered? And what’s Agent?

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=44746

But you can’t say this role isn’t balanced just because there is another (custom) role that is weaker... it’s two different ideas!

But the other idea was balanced by the most professionals out there.

Well, doesn’t mean it’s the only, definitive balanced version! right...?
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Re: Stalker (Mafia Support)

Postby Soulshade55r » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:18 am

What I mean is mafia Lookout would still be weak on its own so I'd like a Mafia lookout/Tracker, Consigliere would obviously be a lot better then a Mafia Look at ut most the time
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