Long needed Arsonist buff [Updated!!]

Old Role Ideas

Douse Immunity?

Yes
4
67%
No
2
33%
 
Total votes : 6

Re: Long needed Arsonist buff [Updated!!]

Postby TheLeaper » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:16 pm

No, you were the one that brought up the lore based argument. Which is irrelevant.

Nothing in this universe that is edible smells anything like gasoline, so yeah it would have to be set in a different universe for people to mistake the smell for something like that.
Homer Simpson wrote:"The waiting game sucks, let's do something else."

Citizen Steel wrote:Be on the lookout for a badass in a leather jacket....or a suspicious puddle of water."

If we become good friends on here feel free to PM and we can start connecting on other sites.
#AwwwHereItGoes

ToS Record: 55-0
TheLeaper
Escort
Escort
 
Posts: 78
Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 12:31 pm

Re: Long Long LONG need Arsonist buff

Postby QTmcwee » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:06 pm

Element83 wrote:
SweetLionButt wrote:Lol first off this is not a joke role i did NOT just buff the defense.

He douses escorts/consorts when they rb him.

He douses Jailor when they jail him

and his douses are a RAMPAGE attack.

+the defense

Ok here are my thoughts

+Escorts/Jailor thing
BUT
>RaMpAgE - Rampage is RNG and takes no skill to use, its broken, You can kill the entire town if an arso has RaMagE

so of course /NoSupport


Lol, do you even know what "Rampage" means? You attack your target's visitors. That's not RNG. Lmfao. RNG stands for Random Number Generator. Roles that are RNG include the Psychic and Crusader (Coven Expansion). Werewolf does not consist of an RNG mechanic, even though they consist of a Rampage attack as well. I for one think the Arso is balanced in certain conditions, however needs to be tweaked. For one, the Powerful defense does not need to be added, the only ones who could possibly kill an Arsonist are: Crusader, Bodyguard, Trapper, Jailor, Werewolf, Arsonist, Pestilence, Medusa, Veteran, Hex Master, and Pirate. In my opinion the Arsonist doesn't need more defense. I like the idea they douse their RB'ers though. I suppose that the Rampage should be used for the douses, and when you ignite your targets cannot be visited during that night. Who knows, however I do agree with most - 99% of this role remake.
/support
"... And I'm baiting all the haters like a paranoid Veteran. Been racking up that ELO, but now, what's the point of lying? When I'm uploading a game, while that game is slowly dying. Shots Fired." - Miss Medi, Channel Trailer Rap.
User avatar
QTmcwee
Newbie
Newbie
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:25 pm

Re: Long Long LONG need Arsonist buff

Postby SweetLionButt » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:33 am

QTmcwee wrote:
Element83 wrote:
SweetLionButt wrote:Lol first off this is not a joke role i did NOT just buff the defense.

He douses escorts/consorts when they rb him.

He douses Jailor when they jail him

and his douses are a RAMPAGE attack.

+the defense

Ok here are my thoughts

+Escorts/Jailor thing
BUT
>RaMpAgE - Rampage is RNG and takes no skill to use, its broken, You can kill the entire town if an arso has RaMagE

so of course /NoSupport


Lol, do you even know what "Rampage" means? You attack your target's visitors. That's not RNG. Lmfao. RNG stands for Random Number Generator. Roles that are RNG include the Psychic and Crusader (Coven Expansion). Werewolf does not consist of an RNG mechanic, even though they consist of a Rampage attack as well. I for one think the Arso is balanced in certain conditions, however needs to be tweaked. For one, the Powerful defense does not need to be added, the only ones who could possibly kill an Arsonist are: Crusader, Bodyguard, Trapper, Jailor, Werewolf, Arsonist, Pestilence, Medusa, Veteran, Hex Master, and Pirate. In my opinion the Arsonist doesn't need more defense. I like the idea they douse their RB'ers though. I suppose that the Rampage should be used for the douses, and when you ignite your targets cannot be visited during that night. Who knows, however I do agree with most - 99% of this role remake. Spoiler: Whats the 1%?
/support
User avatar
SweetLionButt
Executioner
Executioner
 
Posts: 22
Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:27 am
Location: In Wakanda learning the ways of da people

Re: Long needed Arsonist buff [Updated!!]

Postby TheLeaper » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:39 pm

Kirize12 wrote:This is a lore based argument.

People in those ages didn't know what gasoline was, thus they wouldn't be able to attribute the smell to gasoline.


It's not a lore based argument - you FUCK. Regardless of whether or not you know what gasoline is, you LITERALLY can't be immune to having it thrown on you.

Take your weeb bullshit somewhere else.
Homer Simpson wrote:"The waiting game sucks, let's do something else."

Citizen Steel wrote:Be on the lookout for a badass in a leather jacket....or a suspicious puddle of water."

If we become good friends on here feel free to PM and we can start connecting on other sites.
#AwwwHereItGoes

ToS Record: 55-0
TheLeaper
Escort
Escort
 
Posts: 78
Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 12:31 pm

Re: Long needed Arsonist buff [Updated!!]

Postby KingArmaan » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:36 am

The role rework is a bit overpowered.
Dousing roleblockers, I agree.
Douse immunity, I agree as he basically knows when he's doused and needs to sacrifice a day to remove that gas and is technically immune already, so why not.
Powerful defense, really no need for that, since that basically makes him a weaker form of Pestilence, and also hard counters Veteran, Werewolf, and Bodyguard.
Rampage, no that would be too Powerful for it, and basically make it a stronger Werewolf who can rampage daily. You need to nerf it a lot.
User avatar
KingArmaan
Survivor
Survivor
 
Posts: 39
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:39 am

Re: Long needed Arsonist buff [Updated!!]

Postby TheLeaper » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:21 pm

Kirize12 wrote:Well done

That made me smile

Arsonists are experienced with gasoline, and know it's properties. That's why when an arsonist wakes up and smells gasoline, it knows its deadly properties if ignited and immediately washes it off, so when another arsonists attempts to set them on fire they can just stop, drop, and roll.

Other townies wouldn't know what gasoline was, so when they wake up they attribute the smell to something different. Until they die, because townies back then were clueless.

This is a lore based argument, yes - but yours is as well. I'm just saying how lore can be changed, while balance can't.


Once again, take your STUPID BULLSHIT somewhere else.

NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE, you aren't going to be immune to having something DUMPED on you. When somebody wakes up they will realize they are covered in SOME sort of liquid. It does not MATTER what they smell, because they will feel it.

Stop being a complete fuck already.
Homer Simpson wrote:"The waiting game sucks, let's do something else."

Citizen Steel wrote:Be on the lookout for a badass in a leather jacket....or a suspicious puddle of water."

If we become good friends on here feel free to PM and we can start connecting on other sites.
#AwwwHereItGoes

ToS Record: 55-0
TheLeaper
Escort
Escort
 
Posts: 78
Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 12:31 pm

Re: Long needed Arsonist buff [Updated!!]

Postby BasicFourLife » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:36 pm

TheLeaper wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:Well done

That made me smile

Arsonists are experienced with gasoline, and know it's properties. That's why when an arsonist wakes up and smells gasoline, it knows its deadly properties if ignited and immediately washes it off, so when another arsonists attempts to set them on fire they can just stop, drop, and roll.

Other townies wouldn't know what gasoline was, so when they wake up they attribute the smell to something different. Until they die, because townies back then were clueless.

This is a lore based argument, yes - but yours is as well. I'm just saying how lore can be changed, while balance can't.


Once again, take your STUPID BULLSHIT somewhere else.

NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE, you aren't going to be immune to having something DUMPED on you. When somebody wakes up they will realize they are covered in SOME sort of liquid. It does not MATTER what they smell, because they will feel it.

Stop being a complete fuck already.

Arsonist needs Douse Immunity, otherwise it is auto-loss for the Arsonist if it douses itself.
RNG is never good for any strategy based game. Please learn the definition of what that means, especially if you're one of the people constantly defending it.

FM / TG: 5 - 10 - 8
BasicFourLife
[Forum Mafia XVI] Winner
[Forum Mafia XVI] Winner
 
Posts: 1566
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:47 am
Location: UTC +2/+3 - Somewhere hidden

Re: Long needed Arsonist buff [Updated!!]

Postby TheLeaper » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:42 pm

Completely inaccurate.
Homer Simpson wrote:"The waiting game sucks, let's do something else."

Citizen Steel wrote:Be on the lookout for a badass in a leather jacket....or a suspicious puddle of water."

If we become good friends on here feel free to PM and we can start connecting on other sites.
#AwwwHereItGoes

ToS Record: 55-0
TheLeaper
Escort
Escort
 
Posts: 78
Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 12:31 pm

Previous

Return to Role Idea Archives

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests