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Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:25 pm
by BlazinIce
Gossiper
Neutral Evil


Abilities:
-Select two targets. Your second target will find out the role, visitors, and target of your first target.

Attributes:
-You have one autovest giving you Basic defense.
-You cannot target yourself.
-Your ability will fail if you give information to a townperson, and you will not be notified of this.

Goal and Win Conditions:
Witch goal and win conditions

Investigative Results:
Sheriff: Your target is not suspicious.
Investigator: n/a
Consigliere: Your target is attuned to the town's gossip. They must be the Gossiper.

Re: Informant (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:32 pm
by JGaming08
Isn't this just a buffed Consigliere that gives other roles info?

Also, it could be very dangerous if you don't select an evil role, I think this could be better for town than evil, not saying that it should be town but it could mess up and give someone like the Jailor good info.

Re: Informant (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:57 pm
by DumbStorm
JGaming08 wrote:Isn't this just a buffed Consigliere that gives other roles info?

Also, it could be very dangerous if you don't select an evil role, I think this could be better for town than evil, not saying that it should be town but it could mess up and give someone like the Jailor good info.


Just like witch can accidently send TP into a killing roles target, or send a scum they found into vet.

Granted, this is more town sided.

Re: Informant (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:31 pm
by BlazinIce
DumbStorm wrote:
JGaming08 wrote:Isn't this just a buffed Consigliere that gives other roles info?

Also, it could be very dangerous if you don't select an evil role, I think this could be better for town than evil, not saying that it should be town but it could mess up and give someone like the Jailor good info.


Just like witch can accidently send TP into a killing roles target, or send a scum they found into vet.

Granted, this is more town sided.

It has to support evils, that's the only way it wins. Also, you could choose not to target anyone. And it's not a buffed Consigliere because you give others information.

Re: Informant (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:36 pm
by Mace8937
BlazinIce wrote:
DumbStorm wrote:
JGaming08 wrote:Isn't this just a buffed Consigliere that gives other roles info?

Also, it could be very dangerous if you don't select an evil role, I think this could be better for town than evil, not saying that it should be town but it could mess up and give someone like the Jailor good info.


Just like witch can accidently send TP into a killing roles target, or send a scum they found into vet.

Granted, this is more town sided.

It has to support evils, that's the only way it wins. Also, you could choose not to target anyone. And it's not a buffed Consigliere because you give others information.

Well, if you confirmed find a Mafia or NK, you can give them the information and sweep the population.
Seems pretty OP

Re: Informant (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:15 pm
by BlazinIce
Mace8937 wrote:
BlazinIce wrote:
DumbStorm wrote:
JGaming08 wrote:Isn't this just a buffed Consigliere that gives other roles info?

Also, it could be very dangerous if you don't select an evil role, I think this could be better for town than evil, not saying that it should be town but it could mess up and give someone like the Jailor good info.


Just like witch can accidently send TP into a killing roles target, or send a scum they found into vet.

Granted, this is more town sided.

It has to support evils, that's the only way it wins. Also, you could choose not to target anyone. And it's not a buffed Consigliere because you give others information.

Well, if you confirmed find a Mafia or NK, you can give them the information and sweep the population.
Seems pretty OP

All it really does is expand their claimspace and give more information. How is it OP?

Re: Informant (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:57 am
by lemonader666
This is a great concept and all, but one probelm is that it can't find scum easily unlike witch.

Re: Informant (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:55 pm
by BlazinIce
lemonader666 wrote:This is a great concept and all, but one probelm is that it can't find scum easily unlike witch.

It can investigate in the day, and finds evils just as fast as witch. Although it can't really use it's ability before it finds an evil, the information is powerful enough to balance it out.

Re: Informant (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:35 am
by BlazinIce
Bump (How can I buff Informant?)

Re: Informant (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:03 am
by lemonader666
BlazinIce wrote:Bump (How can I buff Informant?)

Make it be able to target itself on both rows

Re: Informant (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:25 am
by BlazinIce
lemonader666 wrote:
BlazinIce wrote:Bump (How can I buff Informant?)

Make it be able to target itself on both rows

Done

Re: Informant (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:28 am
by lemonader666
BlazinIce wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:
BlazinIce wrote:Bump (How can I buff Informant?)

Make it be able to target itself on both rows

Done

And advertise on your sig lol

Re: Informant (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:58 am
by BlazinIce
lemonader666 wrote:
BlazinIce wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:
BlazinIce wrote:Bump (How can I buff Informant?)

Make it be able to target itself on both rows

Done

And advertise on your sig lol

ok

Re: Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:25 pm
by BlazinIce
Changed the name and added an attribute to prevent gamethrowing.

Re: Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:26 pm
by DumbStorm
I still don't like it.

Re: Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:35 pm
by BlazinIce
DumbStorm wrote:I still don't like it.

Why

Re: Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:40 pm
by DumbStorm
It's a role with a needless amount of complexity. If you want to have a role that can share information with evils while being easy to learn, look no further than Witch.

Re: Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:53 pm
by BlazinIce
DumbStorm wrote:It's a role with a needless amount of complexity. If you want to have a role that can share information with evils while being easy to learn, look no further than Witch.

How does witch share information? This is also p easy to learn.

Re: Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:56 pm
by Mystoc
its nerfed witch that can privately chat with evils and isn't even told roles of people

accidently telling a town a evil allies role is huge anti synergy

i don't see how this role is good at all

the witch shares info by controlling a person finding out they are evil control different person whisper evil person x is that role and they know the evils role since they controlled them your role shares info better but at the cost of accidentally sharing it with town it's just bad

Re: Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:01 pm
by BlazinIce
Mystoc wrote:its nerfed witch that can privately chat with evils and isn't even told roles of people

accidently telling a town a evil allies role is huge anti synergy

i don't see how this role is good at all

the witch shares info by controlling a person finding out they are evil control different person whisper evil person x is that role and they know the evils role since they controlled them your role shares info better but at the cost of accidentally sharing it with town it's just bad

This role also tells who a player visited/visitors were. This role finds evils twice as fast. You forgot these two attributes:
-You can target yourself.
-You can only gossip to someone if you know they are evil.

Re: Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:14 pm
by Mystoc
ok the clarifications make more sense

but if you can pick yourself why would you ever choose to pick another, you should just pick yourself get info then gossip to an evil you found letting someone else get the info the is too huge a risk, why even give the option for it if it's obv picking yourself is better in every case

so its a tracker LO, consig , that has the option to pass the ability on to others which is way to risky and should never be done

it also talk to evils at night through gossiping

its basicly a witch that can talk privately cause LO tracker ability isn't that useful, thing is witch can rb and make people vig shoot town this, this role cant really stop town in anyway

this role is good at

finding evil allies fast
sharing info with evils
faking tracker and LO and invest

this isn't useful enough in my eyes witch can do some of these things but it can help stop town more then your role

Re: Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:02 pm
by BlazinIce
I'd say the information is useful, and giving info to others is quicker and less risky because whispering is suspicious. It makes evils stronger by giving them more claimspace, and information.

Re: Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:55 pm
by BlazinIce
Bump

Re: Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:12 am
by swagmm23
This role is fine , but it would be better if the second target only knew the alignment of the first role instead of the exact role.

BTW , how do i send a picture* in my comment.

Re: Gossiper (Neutral Evil)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:59 am
by BlazinIce
swagmm23 wrote:This role is fine , but it would be better if the second target only knew the alignment of the first role instead of the exact role.

BTW , how do i send a picture* in my comment.

Why? And you can't put pictures in your posts until you have 150 posts.