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The Spirits (New Faction) (Feedback please)

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 5:04 pm
by sh99er
(thank you Faction Development on Discord for helping name and balance)(https://discord.gg/mgAE83C)

Spirit faction – aim: Survive until day 8

Basics –
Spirit Survival – Max 1 in game, they are the person who needs to survive until day 8 (if they die, spirits lose)
Spirit Confusion – These are the ones that give fake results to people / other disrupting actions
Spirit Damage – The ones that can kill / damage a role of players
Spirit Control – The ones that can control players / other actions

Main Idea -
The faction can talk to eachover even when dead. All roles other than the survival roles get stronger / have their ability activate in death. The faction wins 2 ways. All enemies are dead or Day 8 arrives. Yes the damage roles can kill / render someone useless, but this faction does not have a way to constantly kill

SPIRIT SURVIVAL

Based off my drifter role (http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/vi ... 27&t=58222)

Channeler Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Survival

Summary: You are a talented mystic who channels the power of Spirits

Abilities: Pass all night actions on you to somebody else, this does not count as a visit. Jailor and ww cant be passed on (As your in jail)(If you pass on ww, the target selected dies as well as you, unless your target is ww, then your survive)

Attributes: Selecting a person at night will cause any night action that targeted you to happen to them instead

Special Attributes: Unique, Powerful immunity

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Doctor/Disguiser/Serial killer

Sample text -
You have decided to pass all actions onto _____.

Example of game play -

Player A = Channeler
Player A selects player B.
Players C D E and F target A
Players C D E and F instead will target B.


Wanderer Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Survival

Summary: You are a lost soul with no memories of their past but curious about the land they roam

Abilities: Normal night – consig invest someone
Fullmoon: Use the ability of the last person you invested (cant select same person twice)
Self select: Can self select once making you non lynchable the next day. (loses immunity)

Attributes: Normal night – consig invest someone getting exact role
Fullmoon: Use the ability of the last person you invested (cant select same person twice)
Self select: Can self select once making you non lynchable the next day. If put on trial and found guilty, you will swap with a random guilty voter killing them instead. (loses immunity when self selecting)

Special Attributes: Powerful immunity, roleblock immune, Unique

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Investigator/Consigliere/Mayor


SPIRIT CONTROL

Manipulator / Haunter Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Control

Summary: You are a summoned demonic spirit who can possess his enemies

Abilities: Before death: roleblock someone every fullmoon
After death: each night control someone, using their night action on some one. In the day control their vote (cant target same person in a row)

Attributes: Before death: stop someone using their role on each full moon.
After death: control a player at night making them use their ability on some one, in the day you decide who they vote for

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Survivor/Vampire hunter/Witch


Martyr Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Control

Summary: You are an insane follower of the Spirits, who wants to die and join their cause

Abilities: Before death: nothing
After death: Can choose to control a vote of a player once and control a whole lynch once

Attributes: Before death: nothing
After death: can control a vote of a player and 1 lynch

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Bodyguard/Godfather/Arsonist


Mentalist Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Control

Summary: You a spirit with the power of taking peoples minds and giving them a new body for a night

Abilities: Before death: nothing
After death: Select a dead role and a living player switching their minds. The Living player will do the action of the dead role.

Attributes: Before death: Nothing
After death: select 2 people. 1 dead and 1 alive. The alive player will do the action of the dead players role

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Medium/Janitor/Retributionist


SPIRIT DAMAGE

Faithful Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Damage

Summary: You are a summoned spirit who serves their master and punishes the unfaithful

Abilities: Before death: Select some one every full moon
After death: everyone selected will die, from that point onward you can investigate someone. You also blackmail them at the same time (investigator results)

Attributes: Before death: select someone every full moon.
After death: Bm and invest a person

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Vigilante/Veteran/Mafioso


Soulbinder / Equalizer Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Damage

Summary: You are a mystic who can tie souls togethor using powerful magic chains.

Abilities: Before death: Select someone
After death: Last person selected will die with you (no matter role or healed). Each night select 2 people binding them for that night and next day (if 1 is hung, both die etc)

Attributes: Before death: select someone each night
After death: hides someones night time results

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Sheriff/Executioner/Werewolf


Peturbed Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Damage

Summary: Your an unsettled spirit who holds grudges, taking out that person and anyone who gets in the way

Abilities: Before death: Select someone each night
After death: If killed at night, the last person selected will be killed along with you and all of their visitors. If lynched you will haunt the last person selected and 1 other guilty voter of choice. Each night select someone vote-swapping them.

Attributes: Before death: select someone each night
After death: If killed at night, the last person selected will be killed along with you and all of their visitors. If lynched they will haunt the last person selected and 1 other guilty voter of choice. Each night select someone vote-swapping them.

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Framer/Vampire/Jester


SPIRIT CONFUSION

Disruptor Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Confusion

Summary: You are the spirit of an anarchist who still has an unfinished business to complete

Abilities: Before death: Select someone each night
After death: everyone selected will be roleblocked, voteblocked, blackmailed and be transported with another person who was selected (in the order of selection. A with B, B with C, C with A etc). Each night select someone blocking their night time messages (results, roleblock messages, etc)

Attributes: Before death: select someone each night
After death: hides someones night time results

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Escort/Consort/Transporter


Voided / Eraser Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Confusion

Summary: you are a spirit who alters people's memory making them forget that their target ever existed

Abilities: Before death: Select someone each night
After death: everyone selected will have their wills cleared, on death there roles are "forgotten" and wills not shown. They are also roleblocked and voteblocked for the next day and night. Role can blackmail people 2 times.

Attributes: Before death: select someone each night
After death: Blackmail people twice in total. People get cleared on death

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Lookout/Forger/Amnesiac


Phantom Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Confusion

Summary: you are a spirit made from pure darkness who can use their dark magic to blind and mess-up people.

Abilities: Before death: Select a player each night
After death: On death all players will not be able to see chat (for 2 days) Their will is scrambled. From this point onward you can roleblock every full moon and hide a person's night result every non full moon.

Attributes: Before death: select players
After death: block chat for 2 days and night results for rest of game. Hide results for a night on non full moon and roleblock on full

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Spy/Blackmailer/Jailor


EDITS
28/5/17 -
Changed needs name to Summoner
Fixed a few spelling errors
Added a poll
28/5/17 -
Added invest results
Added Summaries
31/5/17
Gave Wanderer a 1 time self use instead of 2
Edited Phantom with the following -
Make night chat visible
Took out blocking all night messages
Took out cant use will anymore. Replaced cant use will with scrambles will on death.
Took out Disruptors RNG with Transporting
1/6/17
Replaced -
Memento Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Damage

Summary: You are a shy spirit who wipes the memory of anyone that is unlucky enough to see them

Abilities: Before death: Select someone every fullmoon
After death: Everyone selected becomes an amnesiac, you can select a person each night making them look amne / forger / lookout to invests and amnesiac to consig.

Attributes: Before death: select someone every fullmoon
After death: selected people become amne and you can make a target look a certain way

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Framer/Vampire/Jester

with
Peturbed Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Damage

Summary: Your an unsettled spirit who holds grudges, taking out that person and anyone who gets in the way

Abilities: Before death: Select someone each night
After death: If killed at night, the last person selected will be killed along with all of their visitors. If lynched they will haunt the last person selected and 1 other guilty voter of choice. Each night select someone vote-swapping them.

Attributes: Before death: select someone each night
After death: If killed at night, the last person selected will be killed along with all of their visitors. If lynched they will haunt the last person selected and 1 other guilty voter of choice. Each night select someone vote-swapping them.

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Framer/Vampire/Jester


Replaced
Summoner Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Control

Summary: You are a mystic who can use the souls of the dead for your own purposes

Abilities: Before death: Select 2 people each night
After death: Select a dead role and a living player. The living player is one you must of selected. (basically you can uses a dead role on the people you selected). Each dead role can be used twice

Attributes: Before death: select 2 people each night
After death: use the dead on the living

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Medium/Janitor/Retributionist

with
Mentalist Spoiler: Alignment: Spirit Control

Summary: You a spirit with the power of taking peoples minds and giving them a new body for a night

Abilities: Before death: nothing
After death: Select a dead role and a living player switching their minds. The Living player will do the action of the dead role.

Attributes: Before death: Nothing
After death: select 2 people. 1 dead and 1 alive. The alive player will do the action of the dead players role

Special Attributes: Can talk to spirits after death

Goal: Keep the spirit faction alive

Win Conditions: wins with Neutral Chaos, Neutral Evil, Neutral Benign

Investigative Results: Medium/Janitor/Retributionist


Points taken from 1 person on TG Discord -
Eraser - Its too much like a janitor / forger and people will end up using note to combat it
Faithful - lacks specialty
Maryr seems too op

Re: Spirit faction (Invest results not done | 1 role needs n

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 5:06 pm
by Parallax7
Link the server bb.

Re: Spirit faction (Invest results not done | 1 role needs n

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 5:13 pm
by Mystoc
for one the needs a name what about the summoner or the lich

Re: Spirit faction (Invest results not done | 1 role needs n

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 7:33 pm
by sh99er
Mystoc wrote:for one the needs a name what about the summoner or the lich


I used summoner

Re: Spirit faction (Invest results not done)

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 7:50 pm
by Mystoc
the faction itself sounds cool idea to stall game and it secondary power is to kill i also like the idea of getting abilities after you die

while i like the faction concept i don't know if each role in the faction is balanced

i will look and review each one later (theres a lot of them)

Re: Spirit faction (Invest results not done)

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 4:51 am
by timurtheking
Phantom-spy/bmer/jailor
Eraser-lookout/forger/amnesiac
Disruptor-escort/consort/transporter
Memento-framer/vampire/jester
Soulbinder-sheriff/executioner/werewolf
Faithful-investigator/consigliere/mayor
Summoner-medium/janitor/retributionist
Martyr-Bodyguard/Godfather/Arsonist
Haunter-Survivor/Vampire hunter/witch
Wanderer-doctor/disguiser/Serial killer
Channeller-doctor/disguiser/Serial killer (doesnt matter for him anyway)

Re: Spirit faction (Invest results not done)

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 5:04 am
by sh99er
timurtheking wrote:Phantom-spy/bmer/jailor
Eraser-lookout/forger/amnesiac
Disruptor-escort/consort/transporter
Memento-framer/vampire/jester
Soulbinder-sheriff/executioner/werewolf
Faithful-investigator/consigliere/mayor
Summoner-medium/janitor/retributionist
Martyr-Bodyguard/Godfather/Arsonist
Haunter-Survivor/Vampire hunter/witch
Wanderer-doctor/disguiser/Serial killer
Channeller-doctor/disguiser/Serial killer (doesnt matter for him anyway)


Used this but i put wandere as invest/consig/mayor (for a claim) and faiful as vig/vet/mafioso as its the one missing result

Re: Spirit faction (feedback please)

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 5:25 am
by timurtheking
You forgot consig and sheriff results

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:41 am
by Insonnolito
This is simply beautiful. Instead of the replacing Mafia in some games, (Like the Demon Faction) I feel like it should have an even chance as Vampires, but if one is in the game, the other cannot be. This is because the Spirits seem like a lesser faction to me, as they don't primarily kill. This would also be because if you had Demons and Vampires in one game, Mafia in the next, and then Mafia and Spiritss in the final, it would spice up your games a lot more and become more enjoyable.

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:49 am
by TheNightmareFox
i think its a great idea

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 1:55 pm
by timurtheking
This is a unique idea though, good job and look forward to seeing more roles/factions :D

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 2:33 pm
by sh99er
timurtheking wrote:This is a unique idea though, good job and look forward to seeing more roles/factions :D

I still have tons of ideas :3

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 8:24 am
by sh99er
bump

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 9:10 am
by sh99er
TheNightmareFox wrote:i think its a great idea


thanks.

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 5:05 pm
by EvanFishsticks
Some of the roles seem similar to Coven roles, but other than that, it's pretty good. One thing though you forgot to list the Soulkeeper/Equalizer's after death abilities.

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:51 pm
by sh99er
EvanFishsticks wrote:Some of the roles seem similar to Coven roles, but other than that, it's pretty good. One thing though you forgot to list the Soulkeeper/Equalizer's after death abilities.


The only role that ik of as being similar is Summoner as I had a role to control Lynches, Votes and Night actions already, only dead bodies where left.
And Soulkeeper/Equalizers ability is there (unless I added it after you said it and forgot lol)

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:00 am
by sh99er
I need to replace

Memento
Summoner

If anyone makes any, tell me.

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:37 am
by timurtheking
sh99er wrote:I need to replace

Memento
Summoner

If anyone makes any, tell me.

Why memento? Summoner i agree but memento?

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:23 am
by EvanFishsticks
sh99er wrote:
EvanFishsticks wrote:Some of the roles seem similar to Coven roles, but other than that, it's pretty good. One thing though you forgot to list the Soulkeeper/Equalizer's after death abilities.


The only role that ik of as being similar is Summoner as I had a role to control Lynches, Votes and Night actions already, only dead bodies where left.
And Soulkeeper/Equalizers ability is there (unless I added it after you said it and forgot lol)

Sorry, I should have specified which roles I meant. Specifically the Mentalist seems like a Necromancer but another person does the dead person's action instead of the corpse itself.

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:38 am
by sh99er
EvanFishsticks wrote:
sh99er wrote:
EvanFishsticks wrote:Some of the roles seem similar to Coven roles, but other than that, it's pretty good. One thing though you forgot to list the Soulkeeper/Equalizer's after death abilities.


The only role that ik of as being similar is Summoner as I had a role to control Lynches, Votes and Night actions already, only dead bodies where left.
And Soulkeeper/Equalizers ability is there (unless I added it after you said it and forgot lol)

Sorry, I should have specified which roles I meant. Specifically the Mentalist seems like a Necromancer but another person does the dead person's action instead of the corpse itself.


Yes I just made it like that. It was Summoner. And with Mentalist thats the point. Its different to Necro because it needs to be dead, it makes someone else do the action. The only things it shares with Necro is that it uses dead people and its in a faction

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:04 pm
by Skulldug13
timurtheking wrote:
sh99er wrote:I need to replace

Memento
Summoner

If anyone makes any, tell me.

Why memento? Summoner i agree but memento?


Turning people into a amnesiac is a conversion. Which will end up possibly being a Mafia turned into a Amnesiac turned into a Vampire.

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:07 pm
by timurtheking
Skulldug13 wrote:
timurtheking wrote:
sh99er wrote:I need to replace

Memento
Summoner

If anyone makes any, tell me.

Why memento? Summoner i agree but memento?


Turning people into a amnesiac is a conversion. Witch will end up possibly being a Mafia turned into a Amnesiac turned into a Vampire.


Ah,true.

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (feedback please)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:45 am
by sh99er
timurtheking wrote:
Skulldug13 wrote:
timurtheking wrote:
sh99er wrote:I need to replace

Memento
Summoner

If anyone makes any, tell me.

Why memento? Summoner i agree but memento?


Turning people into a amnesiac is a conversion. Witch will end up possibly being a Mafia turned into a Amnesiac turned into a Vampire.


Ah,true.


And that you could end up with like 3 nk in a game because of it, etc etc

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (Alot of recent edits)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:22 pm
by sh99er
Bump

Re: The Spirits (New Faction) (Alot of recent edits)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:47 am
by TheNightmareFox
sh99er wrote:Bump

bump