Miller (Town Support)

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Miller (Town Support)

Postby BS4125 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:46 pm

Miller

Summary -
An inquisitive farmer who spies the town from the mill's window

Alignment -
Town Support

Abilities -
Watch one or two people each night, knowing how many roles visit them

Attributes -
You will know how many roles visited your target(s)
Your target leaving their house will count as a visit
You will know how many mysterious roles visit
Mysterious roles are all roles except Town and NI roles
When you watch two people you will get an accumulation of visits (you won't know how many visited which)

Goal -
Lynch every criminal and evildoer

Investigation Results -
Sheriff: Your target is a member of the Mafia!
Investigator: Undecided
Consigliere: Your target wears ragged clothes caked in flour. They must be the Miller

Messages -
"You have decided to spy on ____ tonight"
"You have decided to spy on ____ and ____ tonight"

You saw {no.} figures visit your target, {no.} of which cloaked in black


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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby BlazinIce » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:01 pm

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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby BS4125 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:03 pm

BlazinIce wrote:Needs to be TI

I'm debating that, it doesn't really get information about anyone and isn't that powerful alike Medium so it's in TS for now

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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby AegonSnow » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:36 pm

idk, something just seems kinda meh about it.

Like: mysterious visitors (aka Mafia) = Isn't that what spy does? And spy even does it better.

It's kinda like Orange's role idea Osservatore, which I liked better.
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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby BS4125 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:58 pm

Kirize12 wrote:If this is to stay in Town Support make it so it flips Mafia to Sheriff.

Umm, ok but could I have a reason why?

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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby AegonSnow » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:04 pm

Kirize12 wrote:If this is to stay in Town Support make it so it flips Mafia to Sheriff.


Kirize12, this isn't Mafia:the game.

Miller

A miller is a regular town player except that they come up mafia-aligned when investigated.
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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby BS4125 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:48 pm

Kirize12 wrote:I'm not suggesting to make it flip mafia because that's what Vanilla members do.

I'm suggesting to make it flip mafia because it needs some sort of temper, given how it can become very powerful and should stay a great scumclaim.

Ok then, I'll see how it does with it

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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby AegonSnow » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:22 pm

I don't support it, because there's something out there that already does the job it does.

And ESPECIALLY no support for having a town member appear as Mafia to the Sheriff.
No. No. No.
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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:41 pm

AegonSnow wrote:
HereThereEverywhere wrote:
AegonSnow wrote:/nosupport

Either give reasoning, or don't say anything.


I don't support it, because there's something out there that already does the job it does.

And ESPECIALLY no support for having a town member appear as Mafia to the Sheriff.
No. No. No.

You're still not giving actual reasoning. Why is having a Townie appear as Mafia bad? What does this job?
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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby AegonSnow » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:51 pm

Kirize12 wrote:I'm not suggesting to make it flip mafia because that's what Vanilla members do.

I'm suggesting to make it flip mafia because it needs some sort of temper, given how it can become very powerful and should stay a great scumclaim.


HereThereEverywhere wrote:You're still not giving actual reasoning. Why is having a Townie appear as Mafia bad? What does this job?



I might be mistaken. I thought what Kirize was saying was to have it as a Town role, but appear as Mafia.

She might have meant just make it a Mafia role instead of a Town one.

And if it is a Mafia role,
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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:57 pm

Kirize means it should be a Town role that shows up as Mafia, because a Mafia member that gets interrogated can claim Miller.
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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby BS4125 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:35 am

Miller is a really easy claim, easier than Lookout and Medium in some cases, and it's too strong to be a TS without it appearing as Mafia to the Sheriff.

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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby BS4125 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:44 am

AegonSnow wrote:idk, something just seems kinda meh about it.

Like: mysterious visitors (aka Mafia) = Isn't that what spy does? And spy even does it better.

It's kinda like Orange's role idea Osservatore, which I liked better.

Mysterious visitors = Mafioso, MD, MS, NE, NB, NC
Spy visitors = Just Mafia

Spy's ability is limited to only Mafia which is bad because without Mafia it's power's gone (a hard counter to Mafia) but the Miller's visitors cover a broader range

Also the Osservatore is a Mafia role which has no abilities linking to the Miller and Spy is toxic anyway

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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby BS4125 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:54 pm

JimmyCasket wrote:why does it show as mafia to sheriff?

Because the role gets little information easily so it needs another drawback, plus it can be a good claim for the Mafia

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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby Mystoc » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:18 pm

i tried to understand it but i don't

give a day by day example please how it would work

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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby BS4125 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:54 pm

Mystoc wrote:i tried to understand it but i don't

give a day by day example please how it would work

thanks

You receive how many visitors visit your target and how many visitors visit that aren't Town or NI

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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby BS4125 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:56 pm

JGaming08 wrote:Change it to TI, that's what this role does, investigate.
Also, why does it flip Mafia? A role should only flip Mafia unless they are or framed, if you wanna give it a powerful drawback give it bad invest results like Miller, Doctor, Serial Killer, Potion Master, Disguiser results.

It seems quite underpowered in my opinion, its a worse lookout that can spy on more than one person at once. Can you tell me why this is a powerful role?


BS4125 wrote:
BlazinIce wrote:Needs to be TI

I'm debating that, it doesn't really get information about anyone and isn't that powerful alike Medium so it's in TS for now


Kirize12 wrote:I'm not suggesting to make it flip mafia because that's what Vanilla members do.

I'm suggesting to make it flip mafia because it needs some sort of temper, given how it can become very powerful and should stay a great scumclaim.

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BS4125 wrote:Please post relevant posts to the topic at hand and not digress. Also please explain your opinions otherwise your contribution is sub-zero.


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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby lemonader666 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:32 pm

I suggest changing this to Town Investigative because it's a reworked lookout but gives mafia a better scumclaim.
This role is great for mafia scumclaim.
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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby SlightlyOfficiant » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:04 am

Pro: - Know the amount of roles that visited, See how many of the roles are evil.
Cons: - If the target leaves the house it could mess things up. Comes up as Mafia to sheriff.
Best Case Scenario: You target 2 mediums and all evil roles in the game visit them.
Worst Case Scenario: The sheriff finds you night 1 and gets you lynched day 2.
Overall Impression: Other then the comes up as mafia to sheriff this looks good to me.
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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby Mystoc » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:21 pm

SlightlyOfficiant wrote:Pro: - Know the amount of roles that visited, See how many of the roles are evil.
Cons: - If the target leaves the house it could mess things up. Comes up as Mafia to sheriff.
Best Case Scenario: You target 2 mediums and all evil roles in the game visit them.
Worst Case Scenario: The sheriff finds you night 1 and gets you lynched day 2.
Overall Impression: Other then the comes up as mafia to sheriff this looks good to me.


i mean i think this person is pretty active since they a mod but isn't this a necro bump by almost a year?
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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby ManateeDude » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:27 pm

Mystoc wrote:
SlightlyOfficiant wrote:Pro: - Know the amount of roles that visited, See how many of the roles are evil.
Cons: - If the target leaves the house it could mess things up. Comes up as Mafia to sheriff.
Best Case Scenario: You target 2 mediums and all evil roles in the game visit them.
Worst Case Scenario: The sheriff finds you night 1 and gets you lynched day 2.
Overall Impression: Other then the comes up as mafia to sheriff this looks good to me.


i mean i think this person is pretty active since they a mod but isn't this a necro bump by almost a year?

He's not a mod. But shit that necro though.
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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby Mystoc » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:32 pm

He's not a mod. But shit that necro though.


say that again

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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby ManateeDude » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:40 pm

Mystoc wrote:
He's not a mod. But shit that necro though.


say that again

https://imgur.com/a/TLW5jcU


I thought you were talking bout SlightlyOfficiant.
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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby Mystoc » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:42 pm

i mean i ment the OP is prolly active since hes a mod and since hes active so much so it might be ok to necro bump

the other way around makes no sense slightly can necro bump cause he's a mod so he's allowed to break the rules? why would i ever say that lol

gotta read the context and the way that makes the most sense
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Re: Miller (Town Support)

Postby BS4125 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:32 am

The necrobump wasn’t a necrobump because it sparked discussion concerning the topic at hand. With that sorted, please could you stop going offtopic or take this conversation elsewhere, thanks. Also thanks for telling me I’m a Mod, I didn’t realise before.

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