Slave/Servant (1500+ views)

Old Role Ideas

Do you like this role?

IT'S THE BEST!!!
15
27%
I like it!
20
36%
Good concept but needs some more work (please state why)
7
13%
Neutral
6
11%
Don't like it!
8
14%
I HATE IT!!!
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 56

Re: Slave (100+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby sh99er » Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:02 am

sh99er wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:
sh99er wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:Then I officially cannot read. :lol: but what if he is werewolf? Witch? That doesn't sound well


Master cannot be immune roles or amnesiac jester and executioner and if ww is his saviour read again you become witch

That is what I am saying. It's unfair to the ww

Any ideas then?what culd slave become?


Hmmm wolfling seems ok but might be abit conplicated
Check out my ideas:
My Guardian Faction
My Elemental Faction
My Spirit Faction
My Demon Faction

After agreeing that as Godfather id have my mafioso make food for me, here was a funny response.
Jezz wrote:Godfather: mafioso, make me a sandwich
Mafioso: ...we kinda should kill one of our enemies tonight sir
Godfather: no I'm hungry fuck you
User avatar
sh99er
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:06 am
Location: When I'm at my home....London...when I'm at boarding school...hell.

Re: Slave (100+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby Goldrush645 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:08 am

With the become what killed your master, what happens when a full Mafia kills your master? Do you just become survivor?
Check out my sucky idea: Priest
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=54413
And check out my YouTube Goldrsh645
User avatar
Goldrush645
Newbie
Newbie
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:27 am

Re: Slave (100+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby sh99er » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:52 am

Goldrush645 wrote:With the become what killed your master, what happens when a full Mafia kills your master? Do you just become survivor?


If this happens either you turn survivor or mafia killing is informed who you are (like all the killers you join do) and it will say he can win with you and when 1 mafia dies you will take their place (if maf/someone killed you, you could still win with mat in the end)
Check out my ideas:
My Guardian Faction
My Elemental Faction
My Spirit Faction
My Demon Faction

After agreeing that as Godfather id have my mafioso make food for me, here was a funny response.
Jezz wrote:Godfather: mafioso, make me a sandwich
Mafioso: ...we kinda should kill one of our enemies tonight sir
Godfather: no I'm hungry fuck you
User avatar
sh99er
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:06 am
Location: When I'm at my home....London...when I'm at boarding school...hell.

Re: Slave (400+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby Guiorgy » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:11 pm

The goal is too complicated. I mean first your goal is to lynch him, but then you are a survivor with a diferent goal. But also if he dies then you become a killing role with a completely new goal. It seems that as a slave you have no goal, just wait for the master to die. That means that thats when the game really begins for you, which is bad. Your goal should only change if you fail, not when you succeed!

What if jester kills your master?
Or how is your master chosen? Are there limitations like executioners target?





My favourite role ideas:

Spoiler:
    (Specter0) Soulkeeper(NC)
    (Sh99er) Succubus(NC)
    (Sh99er) Parasite(NC)
    (dyaomaster) Biologist(NK)
    (ChandlerofGEM) Mercenary(NC)
    (khakha1036) Lumber Jack(NB)
Image

Image
User avatar
Guiorgy
Survivor
Survivor
 
Posts: 34
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:25 am
Location: Georgia

Re: Slave (400+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby sh99er » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:30 pm

Guiorgy wrote:The goal is too complicated. I mean first your goal is to lynch him, but then you are a survivor with a diferent goal. But also if he dies then you become a killing role with a completely new goal. It seems that as a slave you have no goal, just wait for the master to die. That means that thats when the game really begins for you, which is bad. Your goal should only change if you fail, not when you succeed!

What if jester kills your master?
Or how is your master chosen? Are there limitations like executioners target?


1) You only become survivor if the voters are only you or only immune roles / Jester and amne. (you will have a randomly selected savor is not just them) (vet / vig / jailor killing master will make you become a vigilante, mafioso / Gf will make you become a random mafia role. Werewolf will make you become a witch and arso / sk makes you become arso / sk).
2) slaves goal is to kill his master.
3) with the "that is when the game begins for you" Isnt that just like amnesaic?
4) "only if you fail" the only reason this is seen like this is because only 1 role right now is like this when you fail, executioner.
5) if jester kills him you take your killers role. thus you would be a jester.
6) there are no limitations other than it cant be amnesaic, jester or immune roles (gf, sk, arso, ww, exe). But if needed this can be suggested
Check out my ideas:
My Guardian Faction
My Elemental Faction
My Spirit Faction
My Demon Faction

After agreeing that as Godfather id have my mafioso make food for me, here was a funny response.
Jezz wrote:Godfather: mafioso, make me a sandwich
Mafioso: ...we kinda should kill one of our enemies tonight sir
Godfather: no I'm hungry fuck you
User avatar
sh99er
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:06 am
Location: When I'm at my home....London...when I'm at boarding school...hell.

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby Guiorgy » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:29 pm

I don't know. Getting a random role mid game doesn't really seem great. Besides it's not like you can speed your master getting killed at night. So what, you just and half game to see what side will you be? Is that fun? Maybe I am just missing something?





My favourite role ideas:

Spoiler:
    (Specter0) Soulkeeper(NC)
    (Sh99er) Succubus(NC)
    (Sh99er) Parasite(NC)
    (dyaomaster) Biologist(NK)
    (ChandlerofGEM) Mercenary(NC)
    (khakha1036) Lumber Jack(NB)
Image

Image
User avatar
Guiorgy
Survivor
Survivor
 
Posts: 34
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:25 am
Location: Georgia

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby sh99er » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:45 pm

Guiorgy wrote:I don't know. Getting a random role mid game doesn't really seem great. Besides it's not like you can speed your master getting killed at night. So what, you just and half game to see what side will you be? Is that fun? Maybe I am just missing something?



Your summing up amne / being bitten by vamps. Same concept.
Check out my ideas:
My Guardian Faction
My Elemental Faction
My Spirit Faction
My Demon Faction

After agreeing that as Godfather id have my mafioso make food for me, here was a funny response.
Jezz wrote:Godfather: mafioso, make me a sandwich
Mafioso: ...we kinda should kill one of our enemies tonight sir
Godfather: no I'm hungry fuck you
User avatar
sh99er
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:06 am
Location: When I'm at my home....London...when I'm at boarding school...hell.

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby Guiorgy » Fri Dec 30, 2016 4:58 am

sh99er wrote:
Guiorgy wrote:I don't know. Getting a random role mid game doesn't really seem great. Besides it's not like you can speed your master getting killed at night. So what, you just and half game to see what side will you be? Is that fun? Maybe I am just missing something?



Your summing up amne / being bitten by vamps. Same concept.


amne choses who to be, getting bitten by a vamp means you will be vamp, not a random role...





My favourite role ideas:

Spoiler:
    (Specter0) Soulkeeper(NC)
    (Sh99er) Succubus(NC)
    (Sh99er) Parasite(NC)
    (dyaomaster) Biologist(NK)
    (ChandlerofGEM) Mercenary(NC)
    (khakha1036) Lumber Jack(NB)
Image

Image
User avatar
Guiorgy
Survivor
Survivor
 
Posts: 34
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:25 am
Location: Georgia

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby sh99er » Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:46 am

Guiorgy wrote:
sh99er wrote:
Guiorgy wrote:I don't know. Getting a random role mid game doesn't really seem great. Besides it's not like you can speed your master getting killed at night. So what, you just and half game to see what side will you be? Is that fun? Maybe I am just missing something?



Your summing up amne / being bitten by vamps. Same concept.


amne choses who to be, getting bitten by a vamp means you will be vamp, not a random role...


But it isnt full random its either u become mafia killer/random mafia or an NK or TK which tbh would be quite fun but then again all people have different opinions
Check out my ideas:
My Guardian Faction
My Elemental Faction
My Spirit Faction
My Demon Faction

After agreeing that as Godfather id have my mafioso make food for me, here was a funny response.
Jezz wrote:Godfather: mafioso, make me a sandwich
Mafioso: ...we kinda should kill one of our enemies tonight sir
Godfather: no I'm hungry fuck you
User avatar
sh99er
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:06 am
Location: When I'm at my home....London...when I'm at boarding school...hell.

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:11 am

Guiorgy wrote:I don't know. Getting a random role mid game doesn't really seem great. Besides it's not like you can speed your master getting killed at night. So what, you just and half game to see what side will you be? Is that fun? Maybe I am just missing something?

You can make your master seem suspicious to the town or like an important townie to speed up his death
I have become what i despise, a man who despises himself.

Check out my role suggestions
http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=45162
the psychaiatrist
Do you also want a more balanched and competetitive ranked mode in patch 1.6? See my ranked suggestions
http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=48199

How would a new investigator list with new roles look?
randomguyhavingfun
Godfather
Godfather
 
Posts: 1763
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:24 am
Location: ELO HELL

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby sh99er » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:42 am

randomguyhavingfun wrote:
Guiorgy wrote:I don't know. Getting a random role mid game doesn't really seem great. Besides it's not like you can speed your master getting killed at night. So what, you just and half game to see what side will you be? Is that fun? Maybe I am just missing something?

You can make your master seem suspicious to the town or like an important townie to speed up his death


Took the words right outta my mouth.
Check out my ideas:
My Guardian Faction
My Elemental Faction
My Spirit Faction
My Demon Faction

After agreeing that as Godfather id have my mafioso make food for me, here was a funny response.
Jezz wrote:Godfather: mafioso, make me a sandwich
Mafioso: ...we kinda should kill one of our enemies tonight sir
Godfather: no I'm hungry fuck you
User avatar
sh99er
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:06 am
Location: When I'm at my home....London...when I'm at boarding school...hell.

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby Guiorgy » Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:01 am

sh99er wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:
Guiorgy wrote:I don't know. Getting a random role mid game doesn't really seem great. Besides it's not like you can speed your master getting killed at night. So what, you just and half game to see what side will you be? Is that fun? Maybe I am just missing something?

You can make your master seem suspicious to the town or like an important townie to speed up his death

Took the words right outta my mouth.


Thats would just be simpler exe, as he has to lynch his target, wheres you don't care whether he gets killed or hang... And now that I think about it, it's just an simplified exe who becoms either survivor or killing role later...





My favourite role ideas:

Spoiler:
    (Specter0) Soulkeeper(NC)
    (Sh99er) Succubus(NC)
    (Sh99er) Parasite(NC)
    (dyaomaster) Biologist(NK)
    (ChandlerofGEM) Mercenary(NC)
    (khakha1036) Lumber Jack(NB)
Image

Image
User avatar
Guiorgy
Survivor
Survivor
 
Posts: 34
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:25 am
Location: Georgia

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby sh99er » Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:57 am

Guiorgy wrote:
sh99er wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:
Guiorgy wrote:I don't know. Getting a random role mid game doesn't really seem great. Besides it's not like you can speed your master getting killed at night. So what, you just and half game to see what side will you be? Is that fun? Maybe I am just missing something?

You can make your master seem suspicious to the town or like an important townie to speed up his death

Took the words right outta my mouth.


Thats would just be simpler exe, as he has to lynch his target, wheres you don't care whether he gets killed or hang... And now that I think about it, it's just an simplified exe who becoms either survivor or killing role later...


if he hangs his target then, he one of his guilty voters arethe new master, unless only him or immune/the banned (banned as in cant be a master) roles vote then you become surv
Check out my ideas:
My Guardian Faction
My Elemental Faction
My Spirit Faction
My Demon Faction

After agreeing that as Godfather id have my mafioso make food for me, here was a funny response.
Jezz wrote:Godfather: mafioso, make me a sandwich
Mafioso: ...we kinda should kill one of our enemies tonight sir
Godfather: no I'm hungry fuck you
User avatar
sh99er
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:06 am
Location: When I'm at my home....London...when I'm at boarding school...hell.

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby Spectre0 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:10 am

It's a nice idea

He should turn into Witch if any NK at all kills his master, not just WW.
User avatar
Spectre0
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
 
Posts: 232
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:18 pm
Location: 15-18-21-22-1-17 12-2-8

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby sh99er » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:14 am

Spectre0 wrote:It's a nice idea

He should turn into Witch if any NK at all kills his master, not just WW.

But ahuld his killer be notified anyway that he became witch and wouldnt this kinda make the role weaker
Check out my ideas:
My Guardian Faction
My Elemental Faction
My Spirit Faction
My Demon Faction

After agreeing that as Godfather id have my mafioso make food for me, here was a funny response.
Jezz wrote:Godfather: mafioso, make me a sandwich
Mafioso: ...we kinda should kill one of our enemies tonight sir
Godfather: no I'm hungry fuck you
User avatar
sh99er
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:06 am
Location: When I'm at my home....London...when I'm at boarding school...hell.

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:08 pm

What if the Master is killed by a mafioso? There can't be two mafiosos...
User avatar
TheMajesticSammie
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 149
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:15 pm

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby Spectre0 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:00 pm

sh99er wrote:
Spectre0 wrote:It's a nice idea

He should turn into Witch if any NK at all kills his master, not just WW.

But ahuld his killer be notified anyway that he became witch and wouldnt this kinda make the role weaker


Obviously that would make this weaker. That's the point. This role is OP as-is.

The killer shouldn't be notified, EVER. That confirms two people as allies.

In fact, now that I thought about it, this role wouldn't really work. You could win so easily.

Slave on N1: "I'm slave. My master is ____"

*Mafia kills Master*

Now the Slave has a faction, town has to waste time lynching, Amnesiac can instantly remember mafia, and mafia recieved all those advantages at no cost whatsoever.

Even better:

Slave on N1: I'm slave. My Master is ____

Town lynches the master. Only the BG guilties. Town now has two BG's at the cost of a random townie. As BG is one of the better townies, this was probably a good tradeoff.
User avatar
Spectre0
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
 
Posts: 232
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:18 pm
Location: 15-18-21-22-1-17 12-2-8

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby sh99er » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:20 pm

TheMajesticSammie wrote:What if the Master is killed by a mafioso? There can't be two mafiosos...


He becomes mafioso and mafioso becomes GF
Check out my ideas:
My Guardian Faction
My Elemental Faction
My Spirit Faction
My Demon Faction

After agreeing that as Godfather id have my mafioso make food for me, here was a funny response.
Jezz wrote:Godfather: mafioso, make me a sandwich
Mafioso: ...we kinda should kill one of our enemies tonight sir
Godfather: no I'm hungry fuck you
User avatar
sh99er
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:06 am
Location: When I'm at my home....London...when I'm at boarding school...hell.

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby sh99er » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:21 pm

Spectre0 wrote:
sh99er wrote:
Spectre0 wrote:It's a nice idea

He should turn into Witch if any NK at all kills his master, not just WW.

But ahuld his killer be notified anyway that he became witch and wouldnt this kinda make the role weaker


Obviously that would make this weaker. That's the point. This role is OP as-is.

The killer shouldn't be notified, EVER. That confirms two people as allies.

In fact, now that I thought about it, this role wouldn't really work. You could win so easily.

Slave on N1: "I'm slave. My master is ____"
U
*Mafia kills Master*

Now the Slave has a faction, town has to waste time lynching, Amnesiac can instantly remember mafia, and mafia recieved all those advantages at no cost whatsoever.

Even better:

Slave on N1: I'm slave. My Master is ____

Town lynches the master. Only the BG guilties. Town now has two BG's at the cost of a random townie. As BG is one of the better townies, this was probably a good tradeoff.


Yeah maybe its better if he becomes witch everytime and killer isnt notified. But I'll discuss it with Timur
Check out my ideas:
My Guardian Faction
My Elemental Faction
My Spirit Faction
My Demon Faction

After agreeing that as Godfather id have my mafioso make food for me, here was a funny response.
Jezz wrote:Godfather: mafioso, make me a sandwich
Mafioso: ...we kinda should kill one of our enemies tonight sir
Godfather: no I'm hungry fuck you
User avatar
sh99er
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:06 am
Location: When I'm at my home....London...when I'm at boarding school...hell.

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:33 pm

sh99er wrote:
TheMajesticSammie wrote:What if the Master is killed by a mafioso? There can't be two mafiosos...


He becomes mafioso and mafioso becomes GF

But what if there's already a GF? There can't be two GFs either...
User avatar
TheMajesticSammie
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 149
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:15 pm

Re: Slave, Feedback Needed!!!

Postby BPsycho2 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:41 pm

TheMajesticSammie wrote:So- ignoring the fact that this role will openly trigger every black American who plays this game:

Good concept, very unique.
Very similar to an executioner, but with a role change involved (Not necessarily good or bad, from my point of view.)
The concept is interesting, the mechanics are unique, but the very existence of slaves in the game could create extreme controversy.
Perhaps use the same mechanic in a different way (one that won't offend people)?
I think your best course of action is just to keep the role an "Orphan." Leave slavery out of it and you should be fine.
"Indentured servant" works too. Or just "Servant." Those were popular back when the US was being colonized.



FALSE.

I'm not triggered.
But.. Anyways, it's okay. this thread could become an Executioner buff/rework,

Investigator: Sheriff/Slave/Executioner/Werewolf. (Not framer at all.) (Would prefer Godfather here, but since it HAS to be werewolf, fine)

And I think getting someone killed is good enough, rather than having to turn around and become something else and doing that.
I returned and I saw the light return to my eyes.

Image
User avatar
BPsycho2
Godfather
Godfather
 
Posts: 1973
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:33 am

Re: Slave, Feedback Needed!!!

Postby Spectre0 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:52 pm

TheMajesticSammie wrote:So- ignoring the fact that this role will openly trigger every black American who plays this game:




If the word "Slave" triggers you, you deserve it.

Seriously. You deserve any emotional pain you feel if you feel it after simply reading a general term.
User avatar
Spectre0
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
 
Posts: 232
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:18 pm
Location: 15-18-21-22-1-17 12-2-8

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby sh99er » Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:10 pm

TheMajesticSammie wrote:
sh99er wrote:
TheMajesticSammie wrote:What if the Master is killed by a mafioso? There can't be two mafiosos...


He becomes mafioso and mafioso becomes GF

But what if there's already a GF? There can't be two GFs either...



He becomes a random mafia role in this case
Check out my ideas:
My Guardian Faction
My Elemental Faction
My Spirit Faction
My Demon Faction

After agreeing that as Godfather id have my mafioso make food for me, here was a funny response.
Jezz wrote:Godfather: mafioso, make me a sandwich
Mafioso: ...we kinda should kill one of our enemies tonight sir
Godfather: no I'm hungry fuck you
User avatar
sh99er
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:06 am
Location: When I'm at my home....London...when I'm at boarding school...hell.

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby Aki123456789 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:48 am

I really don't see the skill involved in this until your master dies. "Hope" is what this role has to do and they can't do anything about it. I mean, you can beg for someone to kill your master but they are probably innocent. It is like having an amnesiac goal on top of a executioner goal and no role should be that difficult.
Aki123456789
Jester
Jester
 
Posts: 15
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:13 pm

Re: Slave (700+ views) Feedback Needed!!!

Postby sh99er » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:24 am

Aki123456789 wrote:I really don't see the skill involved in this until your master dies. "Hope" is what this role has to do and they can't do anything about it. I mean, you can beg for someone to kill your master but they are probably innocent. It is like having an amnesiac goal on top of a executioner goal and no role should be that difficult.


Tbh its goal is not that hard to conplete, most games rheres about 3 killers Nk MK amd TK chances are your master would die and like you said you could speed up the process via framing them or making them seem like an important townie fpr evils to kill
Check out my ideas:
My Guardian Faction
My Elemental Faction
My Spirit Faction
My Demon Faction

After agreeing that as Godfather id have my mafioso make food for me, here was a funny response.
Jezz wrote:Godfather: mafioso, make me a sandwich
Mafioso: ...we kinda should kill one of our enemies tonight sir
Godfather: no I'm hungry fuck you
User avatar
sh99er
Spy
Spy
 
Posts: 142
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:06 am
Location: When I'm at my home....London...when I'm at boarding school...hell.

PreviousNext

Return to Role Idea Archives

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests