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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:33 pm

Ralozey wrote:
TheMajesticSammie wrote:Special Attributes: If your loved one dies, you will go on a rampage and kill: Everyone who voted guilty on them, if they were hung.

I dont like this part. Maybe you should do 1/3 or 2/3 of the people who voted guilty

But besides that
/support

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I was also thinking about adding a feature where if the loved one visits the Yandere, the Yandere will be roleblocked. What do you think?
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:31 pm

Do you guys want me to add lore to this? I could come up with something. Or, if you want, just base it off Yandere Simulator (Or what's been developed so far, anyway).
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:04 am

Should I add a feature where if the loved one is role blocked, the role-blocker gets auto-killed by the Yandere, instead of their original target? This would give them less control, and make both the Yandere and the loved one easier to detect, which could balance out the role in terms of how overpowered it is in some cases.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 150+ views]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:32 am

Feedback would be most appreciated!
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 150+ views]

Postby BlazinIce » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:37 am

Please don't quadruple post
Btw, a lover that can kill is still as bad as a lover.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 150+ views]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:03 am

BlazinIce wrote:Please don't quadruple post
Btw, a lover that can kill is still as bad as a lover.

Send me a link with a clearly-stated rule against lover roles.
I don't care HOW many other cringey preteens tried to make this role without thinking about it first.
I put serious thought into this, and wanted it to be accurate.
A lot of people really like the idea, but other people who've had the idea before didn't try to turn it into a role that people would actually like.
I've put thought into this, tried to keep it as balanced as possible, and given this role a reason to be wanted.
Put your PTSD of the middle school cringe aside, and let this college student do her thing, K?
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 150+ views]

Postby BS4125 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:18 am

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Oooooooo Mister Power over here!

And would you look at that, I was on the forums longer then you.

But overall the role for this topic needs work, I mean it's so bad people would rather
get off topic lol.

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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 150+ views]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:25 am

BS4125 wrote:I sense a little deja vu hidden in here...

Wait I know why there are so many ideas of this already

To be totally honest I ignore every role idea that is called Yandere because it basically the same thing over and over again. Always protecting one person, always Neutral Chaos and always kills whoever killed their lover

The only reason I clicked on this one because it says:

TheMajesticSammie wrote:[Trending: 150+ views]


In the title and I just wanted to say that this is very self-absorbed, like a little too far and it's even worse that it's only 150, which is less than half of the other topics on the first page, which is mainly filled with people who have just started a topic anyway and the views can be added up even when you, the creator, goes back into your topic anyway. It doesn't add anything to the role as a matter of fact it's like me saying:

BS4125 wrote:New Role Idea [I GOT AN A* IN MY MATH'S TEST TODAY]


See what I mean?

So I will most likely see that you have seen this comment because you role idea won't have the live view count anymore (and I won't have to open this topic to see it). Bye, Yandere

Seriously? You really think I'm the only one who EVER thought of this idea? The reason so many people have suggested it in so many different ways is because there are people who genuinely want it implemented. They just didn't know how to make it work. But I do. I've been pushing for something that dozens of other people have been wanting, but didn't know how to make happen. Other people have tried, but have failed, either due to lack of foresight or simply to asking for something without knowing what to ask for. I really put thought into this, and spent a lot of time on it. I've been working with people on it. But I think what's really bothering people is the fact that they think I'm some edgy preteen, just for thinking of this in the first place. I'm not. I'm pretty sure it's obvious at this point. Go ahead, judge me all you want. But at least I'm actually trying.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 150+ views]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:58 am

BS4125 wrote:I sense a little deja vu hidden in here...

Wait I know why there are so many ideas of this already

To be totally honest I ignore every role idea that is called Yandere because it basically the same thing over and over again. Always protecting one person, always Neutral Chaos and always kills whoever killed their lover

The only reason I clicked on this one because it says:

TheMajesticSammie wrote:[Trending: 150+ views]


In the title and I just wanted to say that this is very self-absorbed, like a little too far and it's even worse that it's only 150, which is less than half of the other topics on the first page, which is mainly filled with people who have just started a topic anyway and the views can be added up even when you, the creator, goes back into your topic anyway. It doesn't add anything to the role as a matter of fact it's like me saying:

BS4125 wrote:New Role Idea [I GOT AN A* IN MY MATH'S TEST TODAY]


See what I mean?

So I will most likely see that you have seen this comment because you role idea won't have the live view count anymore (and I won't have to open this topic to see it). Bye, Yandere

I decided to take a look at all of your roles, to show you what a fair review looks like. I hope you grow up after this.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 200+ views]

Postby BS4125 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:32 am

I like this though, I haven't seen the Yandere role with an ability that it can kill guilty voters

Questions and Feedback:
1) What happens if your target dies of guilt/commits suicide?
2) Could you decrease the amount of guilty voters you can kill to 2? I think then I could be easier to program as no role currently targets 3 and also I think 3 is a bit too much (it's 1/5 of the town)

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BS4125 wrote:Please post relevant posts to the topic at hand and not digress. Also please explain your opinions otherwise your contribution is sub-zero.


Oooooooo Mister Power over here!

And would you look at that, I was on the forums longer then you.

But overall the role for this topic needs work, I mean it's so bad people would rather
get off topic lol.

solola is a mod you retard
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 200+ views]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:08 am

BS4125 wrote:I like this though, I haven't seen the Yandere role with an ability that it can kill guilty voters

Questions and Feedback:
1) What happens if your target dies of guilt/commits suicide?
2) Could you decrease the amount of guilty voters you can kill to 2? I think then I could be easier to program as no role currently targets 3 and also I think 3 is a bit too much (it's 1/5 of the town)

If it's any less than 3, then the Yandere wouldn't be enough of a threat for people to reconsider their votes on the loved one. And if the target dies of guilt or commits suicide, then the Yandere doesn't kill anyone, they just commit suicide.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 200+ views]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:17 pm

I've changed the poll, everyone please check it out. Some of you love this role, but it's also been getting some hate from people who associate this with other "Yandere" roles that have been less-than-satisfactory. I love the concept of a neutral protective role, but if people are really hating on the concept of a lover, then I've considered changing the Yandere to an "Archangel," which has very, very different lore from the Yandere, but functions almost exactly the same as what I've already written (I would basically remove the feature that auto-kills escorts/consorts visiting the Yandere or their loved one, despite it being a very crucial function of this version of the Yandere).
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 200+ views]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:53 pm

The changed version would look something like this:

Role Name: Archangel

Role Alignment: Neutral Chaos

Attributes: Will do anything to guard the person assigned to you.

Abilities: Can kill one person each night; ignores night immunity. (Targets, however, can be healed or vest for safety.) If your protected one visits you at night, you will be role blocked.

Goal: Keep your assigned person alive until the end of the game.

Wins with: ______ (Assigned person)

Special Attributes: If your protected one dies, you will kill yourself.

Investigative Results: Your target is not afraid to get their hands dirty. They could be the Bodyguard, Godfather, Archangel or Arsonist.

Additional Information (comments): Basically the polar opposite of an executioner. Instead of targeting one person, they protect that one person, at all costs. If the person they are trying to protect dies, they lose.

Personally, I liked the original better. This is actually more similar to the other "Yandere" versions out there. The original had a much larger effect on the rest of the game; this one is almost useless.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 200+ views]

Postby BS4125 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:59 pm

TheMajesticSammie wrote:The changed version would look something like this:

Role Name: Archangel

Role Alignment: Neutral Chaos

Attributes: Will do anything to guard the person assigned to you.

Abilities: Can kill one person each night; ignores night immunity. (Targets, however, can be healed or vest for safety.) If your protected one visits you at night, you will be role blocked.

Goal: Keep your assigned person alive until the end of the game.

Wins with: ______ (Assigned person)

Special Attributes: If your protected one dies, you will kill yourself.

Investigative Results: Your target is not afraid to get their hands dirty. They could be the Bodyguard, Godfather, Archangel or Arsonist.

Additional Information (comments): Basically the polar opposite of an executioner. Instead of targeting one person, they protect that one person, at all costs. If the person they are trying to protect dies, they lose.

Personally, I liked the original better. This is actually more similar to the other "Yandere" versions out there. The original had a much larger affect on the rest of the game; this one is almost useless.

I like the attributes of the Yandere currently and the name change to Archangel, it goes with the Town roles more, not many people may get the reference to Yandere and it'll stand out more (because I haven't seen a role idea called Archangel before)

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BS4125 wrote:Please post relevant posts to the topic at hand and not digress. Also please explain your opinions otherwise your contribution is sub-zero.


Oooooooo Mister Power over here!

And would you look at that, I was on the forums longer then you.

But overall the role for this topic needs work, I mean it's so bad people would rather
get off topic lol.

solola is a mod you retard
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 250+ views]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:56 pm

To all the people hating on the Yandere: Please tell me what you don't like about it so I can improve the role.

I really, genuinely want to improve this role to a point where people will take it seriously.

I know you may have seen other "Yandere" roles before, but those suggestions were on a whim and not well thought-out. But I put time and effort into this, and I really want it to be treated as seriously as any other role suggestion would. Please put your stereotypes aside, and actually read this thread before giving hate.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 300+ views]

Postby BS4125 » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:06 am

Can the target be Mafia? If so change that because the target is protected by his teammates

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BS4125 wrote:Please post relevant posts to the topic at hand and not digress. Also please explain your opinions otherwise your contribution is sub-zero.


Oooooooo Mister Power over here!

And would you look at that, I was on the forums longer then you.

But overall the role for this topic needs work, I mean it's so bad people would rather
get off topic lol.

solola is a mod you retard
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 300+ views]

Postby Ralozey » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:29 am

TheMajesticSammie wrote: Attributes: Will do anything, even kill, for the one you love. You love _____. (The loved one could be ANY role, but the Yandere will have no idea what it is.)
I think you should not be able to have a Jester and similar roles as target. Its just.... No.

TheMajesticSammie wrote:If an escort/consort who is not the loved one visits the Yandere, the escort/consort will be killed.
Like that part ;)

But again
/support

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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 300+ views]

Postby zameckis » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:04 am

can kill up to 3 guilty voted is just bullshit
even jester only kill one
change the when the lover die it's either
1.if killed at night
-she kills the killer
-she kills herself
2.if killed by lynch
-kill 1 of the guilty voter(s)
-she kills herself

if can kill more than 1 of guilty voters
it's just simply too overpowed you can count
that this will never be implemented, let alone tested
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending]

Postby sh99er » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:51 am

TheMajesticSammie wrote:
Ralozey wrote:
TheMajesticSammie wrote:Special Attributes: If your loved one dies, you will go on a rampage and kill: Everyone who voted guilty on them, if they were hung.

I dont like this part. Maybe you should do 1/3 or 2/3 of the people who voted guilty

But besides that
/support

~Ralozey


I changed that detail, so the rampage is limited to three guilty voters maximum. It seems reasonable.


three is too little I think, it should be 2 / 3 people die but at least 3 die (so if 3 voted all 3 die but if 9 voted 6 / 9 die.)
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:56 am

sh99er wrote:
TheMajesticSammie wrote:
Ralozey wrote:
TheMajesticSammie wrote:Special Attributes: If your loved one dies, you will go on a rampage and kill: Everyone who voted guilty on them, if they were hung.

I dont like this part. Maybe you should do 1/3 or 2/3 of the people who voted guilty

But besides that
/support

~Ralozey


I changed that detail, so the rampage is limited to three guilty voters maximum. It seems reasonable.


three is too little I think, it should be 2 / 3 people die but at least 3 die (so if 3 voted all 3 die but if 9 voted 6 / 9 die.)

I'll just have people vote on that detail, so I can make everyone happy.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 350+ views]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:20 pm

Hey guys! Just wanted to point out that I changed the poll again! Whoever hasn't voted on the updated version, please do so! I feel like this is a really important decision to be made for this role.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:19 pm

Ralozey wrote:
TheMajesticSammie wrote:Special Attributes: If your loved one dies, you will go on a rampage and kill: Everyone who voted guilty on them, if they were hung.

I dont like this part. Maybe you should do 1/3 or 2/3 of the people who voted guilty

But besides that
/support

~Ralozey

I added a poll to ask people how many people they think should be killed during a rampage. Check it out, if you want.
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending]

Postby Ralozey » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:08 pm

TheMajesticSammie wrote:I added a poll to ask people how many people they think should be killed during a rampage. Check it out, if you want.
Yes, i think it should be 1/2 or 2/3 of the Guilty voters.

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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 350+ views]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:01 pm

Seriously guys! Please don't forget to vote! 2 or 3 votes isn't NEARLY enough to make an educated decision!
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Re: Yandere (Neutral Chaos) [Trending: 400+ views]

Postby TheMajesticSammie » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:59 pm

You guys aren't very helpful .-.
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