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Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:44 am
by randomguyhavingfun
Name:psychiatrist

Alignment : town investigative

Abilities: check one person each night to determine his attitude

Attributes: you will see each persons attitude in comparison to your previous target
- the first target will not result in any interrogation
- you will seee whether your new target was more open than your previous one
- if both your targets have the same attitude both their attitudes will be revealed to you

Attitudes and how open their are
1Supportive ( town and mafia support roles )
2 curious ( town investigatives and mafia deceptives )
3 wary ( town killings town protectives mafia killings and neutral killings )
4 unrecognizable ( neutral benigns neutral evils and neutral chaoses and framed people )

How this works
Psychiatrist has interrogated ret n1 but gets no result
Psychiatrist at interrogates Vigi n2 he gets the message "your target is not as open as your previous target "
Psychiatrist interrogated the framed sheriff n3 " your target is not as open as your previous target "
Psychiatrist interrogates the witch n4 " your last targets both have an unrecognizable nature

Investigative results
Sheriff your target is not suspicious
Investigator your target isn't afraid to get his hands dirty they must be a psychiatrist bodygaurd Godfather or arsonist

Achievements
Degree: win one game as a psychiatrist
Revolutionary : win 5 games as a psychiatrist
Graduate : win 10 games as a psychiatrist
The power of science : win 25 games as a psychiatrist
Feels nice : find two supportive attitude characters in a row
I can understand : find two curious attitude characters in a row
You may want to visit my office : find two wary attitude characters in a row
What on earth : find two unrecognizable attitude characters in a row
This is getting easy : find four targets of the same attitude in a row

Backstory
The psychiatrist was a hard working young man dreaming of becoming the best of his profession. He needed this knowledge both because he liked it and becaus even he thought he could help the towns serial killer who killed his father back when he was just a boy. Nobody took him seriously enough when hearing he wanted to bring the good out of evils but he was determined. But as he was about to get through his final exams his life change forever. In his school there was a sudden invasion. All he could see is armed men one of which wore a tuxedo running around and shooting at a weird hairy creature rampaging. All his classmates and teachers got killed and he got shot in his leg. He managed to find shelter and fled once the mayhem was over. He crawled outside but fainted halfway through his way to the town. He woke up in a small wooden cabin. A man weird man holding a wooden stake and wrapped in garlic was examining him. He wasn't very friendly too. He said he found him on the street but he didn't allow him to leave. He locked him in a small room and watched him carefully day after day. One night while the man was out for a sort of walk he was doing every other night he heard wing stop flapping. A strange woman entered the cabin Andy busted the door. SHe had a pale and creepy look at her face and was staring at him. The psychiatrist felt threatened But the only thing he could think of was his studies. Luckily he was able to convince the intruder to let him go and run as fast as he could outside his prison. After days of wandering he finally came back to town. He started practicing his job but he faced a problem. After all the time he spent in isolation he could hardly remember how a regular reacts to his questions. All he was left with was comparing his clients to try and make some results.

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:08 pm
by kookeekwisp
So it's my suggestion for the Interviewer, but with scientist's method?
I mean, it's obvious i'm going to support it.

Categories:
1. Assisting: Support/Benign
2. Informational: Investigative/Deception
3. Combatant: Protective/Killing
4. Diabolical: Evil/Chaos (Framed)

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:04 am
by randomguyhavingfun
kookeekwisp wrote:So it's my suggestion for the Interviewer, but with scientist's method?
I mean, it's obvious i'm going to support it.

Categories:
1. Assisting: Support/Benign
2. Informational: Investigative/Deception
3. Combatant: Protective/Killing
4. Diabolical: Evil/Chaos (Framed)

ehm actually its MY suggestion for the interviewer. http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=51564&start=100

and yeah. wow. we actually thought of almost the same thing

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:44 am
by kookeekwisp
randomguyhavingfun wrote:
kookeekwisp wrote:So it's my suggestion for the Interviewer, but with scientist's method?
I mean, it's obvious i'm going to support it.

Categories:
1. Assisting: Support/Benign
2. Informational: Investigative/Deception
3. Combatant: Protective/Killing
4. Diabolical: Evil/Chaos (Framed)

ehm actually its MY suggestion for the interviewer. http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=51564&start=100

and yeah. wow. we actually thought of almost the same thing

http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=51564&start=75#p1725340

I said it first. (You even replied to the comment)

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:47 am
by randomguyhavingfun
I know but I actually said it in a complete way

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:18 am
by BS4125
Awesome :D

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:16 pm
by randomguyhavingfun
BS4125 wrote:Awesome :D

Thanks. I added lore and achievements.

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:45 am
by randomguyhavingfun
Hey guys so I've been thinking of changing mafia support and deceptive placement to help blackmailer with his spy claim but I'm not sure if it would help because the consort will be exposed. Any thoughts?

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:53 am
by BS4125
randomguyhavingfun wrote:Hey guys so I've been thinking of changing mafia support and deceptive placement to help blackmailer with his spy claim but I'm not sure if it would help because the consort will be exposed. Any thoughts?

BMer is OP as it is, blackmailing people, hear whispers, good claim. It needs a nerf from just being an overpowered Mafia Spy

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:43 am
by randomguyhavingfun
Guess you are right if I'm gonna screw one of them up it might as well be him

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:38 am
by Th3M4st3r0fNumb3rz
This would be very difficult for new players to understand, especially since no information is given straight from investigations. Also, I feel like this is an underpowered investigator, a role that is already quite firmly planted in the game.

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:56 am
by randomguyhavingfun
i can agree that new players may struggle with this role, which is why it should be kept outside of classic like trans is. investigator is also more powerfull that is true. though i think that by allowing him to confirm townies and neutrals relatively easily he does have enough power to stand. well maybe. i am more than willing to give it any appropriate buff

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:00 pm
by HODORrr
randomguyhavingfun wrote:Name:psychiatrist


id say this name is more fitting as an investigator than an interviewer etc.
i support this role idea. its a new ti that is actualy differend enough from the rest of the roles

will probably need to be tested a lot, since its so hard overthinking if it would be OP or weak or fine. also with so many different team compositions.
but id like to see this, psychiatrist sounds great

i also like you added it to the bg gf arso results, gf/arso is fked up when they get invested
altho dirt hands for a psychiatrist nor a gf sounds right
maybe a new message can be:
this player does not fear death: he can be a bg psych gf arso

clap clap, read only like 7 roles, but this is the first one i support

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:16 am
by randomguyhavingfun
I a man glad you liked my role. :D

For the investigator flavour I am thinking of this : your target pays attention to the detail he could be a gf/bg/arso/psych

I tried to make the results as balanched as possible but it may turn up because of it so of course it would need testing.

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:29 pm
by HODORrr
randomguyhavingfun wrote:pays attention to the detail he could be a gf/bg/arso/psych

fits well with psych, fits a bit with bg. but i dont see a gf/arso fitting in there

its hard comming up with one that fits all 4 roles.
mine fits i guess, maybe not so much with psych but with a lil fantasy, ye all 4 :)
but if you can come up with another one that fits all 4, even better ;)

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:51 pm
by Spectre0
It's literally a weaker Investigator (Far more vague categories).

We don't need more TI roles tbh.

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:54 am
by randomguyhavingfun
HODORrr wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:pays attention to the detail he could be a gf/bg/arso/psych

fits well with psych, fits a bit with bg. but i dont see a gf/arso fitting in there

its hard comming up with one that fits all 4 roles.
mine fits i guess, maybe not so much with psych but with a lil fantasy, ye all 4 :)
but if you can come up with another one that fits all 4, even better ;)

Think I am just going to hold back on this because you never know maybe I'll need to change the results. This role is still pretty early in development

Spectre0 wrote:It's literally a weaker Investigator (Far more vague categories).

We don't need more TI roles tbh.

We do not need TI roles you are right. What we need is good roles.

It does have an edge over the investigator in it beeing able to determine neutrals more effectively and having an easier time prooving his results and confirming town. It I should expected that different roles may be a bit more effective than others. I mean isn't sheriff a weaker investigator, Doctor a weaker bodygaurd or mafioso a weaker godfather? No because they have different purposes and function differently on the meta

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:56 am
by Spectre0
randomguyhavingfun wrote:It does have an edge over the investigator in it beeing able to determine neutrals more effectively and having an easier time prooving his results and confirming town. It I should expected that different roles may be a bit more effective than others. I mean isn't sheriff a weaker investigator, Doctor a weaker bodygaurd or mafioso a weaker godfather? No because they have different purposes and function differently on the meta



No, Sheriff is not a weaker Investigator, Doctor is not a weaker bodyguard, and mafioso is not a weaker sheriff (GF's invest results are a death sentence)

Re: Psychiatrist (town investigative )

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:50 am
by davesport12
randomguyhavingfun wrote:
kookeekwisp wrote:So it's my suggestion for the Interviewer, but with scientist's method?
I mean, it's obvious i'm going to support it.

Categories:
1. Assisting: Support/Benign
2. Informational: Investigative/Deception
3. Combatant: Protective/Killing
4. Diabolical: Evil/Chaos (Framed)

ehm actually its MY suggestion for the interviewer. http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=51564&start=100

and yeah. wow. we actually thought of almost the same thing


Looks same but with different attributes... its okay.... what makes me think is when new role come?