Interviewer (Town Investigative)

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:04 am

Ok so I can nfortnatelay can't quote because I'm on mobile but I wrote what I think is the best place for roles. Of course don't take it wholesale but I hope you like some of my ideas and add them

Trusted
Jailor
Doctor
Transporter
Interviewer
Sheriff
Investigator
Godfather
(Serial killer)
Executioner
Janitor

Kind of trusted
Lookout
Bodygaurd
Amnesiac
Survivor
Medium
Werewolf
Arsonist
Consigliere
Forger
Witch
(Serial killer )
Cannot be trusted
Spy
Escort
Vampire hunter
Mayor
retributonist
Vigilante
Consort
Blackmailer
Framer
Jester
Vampire
Disguiser
Mafioso
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:48 am

randomguyhavingfun wrote:Ok so I can nfortnatelay can't quote because I'm on mobile but I wrote what I think is the best place for roles. Of course don't take it wholesale but I hope you like some of my ideas and add them

Trusted
Jailor
Idk why but I like Jailor in the cannot be Trusted result. Gives the role a twist and makes town think before they go to lynch someone from this role
Doctor
Meh, it can go here or Kind of Trusted doesn't really matter
Transporter
Transporter is very OP rn so I think placing it in lower results can nerf it a bit
Interviewer
Agreed
Sheriff
Agreed
Investigator
Agreed
Godfather
Agreed
(Serial killer)
If Serial Killer was in here then it makes the top result a result to look out for. It needs to go lower
Executioner
Agreed
Janitor
Meh, I guess this role can with a buff and is better than Blackmailor currently

Kind of trusted
Lookout
Agreed
Bodygaurd
Bodyguard is under too much pressure as it is with the Investigator result, needs to be higher
Amnesiac
Agreed
Survivor
Agreed
Medium
Agreed
Werewolf
Borderline fine but I still feel Werewolf needs a buff atm
Arsonist
Agreed
Consigliere
I feel this role can go here or lower but I still think lower is better as it is a powerful role
Forger
Agreed
Witch
Can go here but I feel Witch is weak atm and hard to survive as
(Serial killer )
Can go here or lower

Cannot be trusted
Spy
Agreed
Escort
I guess
Vampire hunter
Agreed
Mayor
Why can't Mayor be trusted, should be in the first result
retributonist
Agreed or it can go in Kind of Trusted
Vigilante
Agreed
Consort
I guess, should be in he same result as Escort
Blackmailer
Agreed, this role is too OP atm
Framer
Agreed
Jester
Agreed
Vampire
Agreed
Disguiser
Agreed
Mafioso
Agreed


Thanks for the feedback, I do like your adaption however some roles don't really fit. Thanks tho :P

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:03 pm

BS4125 wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:Ok so I can nfortnatelay can't quote because I'm on mobile but I wrote what I think is the best place for roles. Of course don't take it wholesale but I hope you like some of my ideas and add them

Trusted
Jailor
Idk why but I like Jailor in the cannot be Trusted result. Gives the role a twist and makes town think before they go to lynch someone from this rolenot like jailor is gonna get claimed any time soon. So I thought I might as well put him here because of lore
Doctor
Meh, it can go here or Kind of Trusted doesn't really mattertrue but lorewise he should be here. Also he is a nice claimspace so I thought h could go in the most innocent category
Transporter
Transporter is very OP rn so I think placing it in lower results can nerf it a biti think having him where godfather is is quite a nerf because mafia is the only one who may try to fake him
Interviewer
Agreed
Sheriff
Agreed
Investigator
Agreed
Godfather
Agreed
(Serial killer)
If Serial Killer was in here then it makes the top result a result to look out for. It needs to go lowerwell it should be something you should look out for. And tahts one of the main reasons I put a lot townies in here. Town investigatives and Doctor are really nice claims and important roles
Executioner
Agreed
Janitor
Meh, I guess this role can with a buff and is better than Blackmailor currentlyyeah but o thought allowing the interviewer to tell janitor apart from the medium could buff him

Kind of trusted
Lookout
Agreed
Bodygaurd
Bodyguard is under too much pressure as it is with the Investigator result, needs to be higherif he is higher he is in the same one as gf and that turns out to be more pressure. This again allows the interviewer to tell them apart but it keeps him in the same as arsonist
Amnesiac
Agreed
Survivor
Agreed
Medium
Agreed
Werewolf
Borderline fine but I still feel Werewolf needs a buff atmthpughtvof putting him in trusted but that would be a lot of scum. Also buffing the werewolf will take more than giving him claims, he needs more power
Arsonist
Agreed
Consigliere
I feel this role can go here or lower but I still think lower is better as it is a powerful role yeah guess I can do with putting him in cannot be trusted
Forger
Agreed
Witch
Can go here but I feel Witch is weak atm and hard to survive astrue but putting her more up is bad for lore and doesn't offer much
(Serial killer )
Can go here or lowerserial killer is kinda weak so putting him lower wouldn't be a nice idea

Cannot be trusted
Spy
Agreed
Escort
I guesswould YOU trust a prostitute?
Vampire hunter
Agreed
Mayor
Why can't Mayor be trusted, should be in the first result it fits with the reveal mechanic
retributonist
Agreed or it can go in Kind of Trusted
Vigilante
Agreed
Consort
I guess, should be in he same result as Escortsee escort
Blackmailer
Agreed, this role is too OP atm
Framer
Agreed
Jester
Agreed
Vampire
Agreed
Disguiser
Agreed
Mafioso
Agreed


Thanks for the feedback, I do like your adaption however some roles don't really fit. Thanks tho :P

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:21 pm

randomguyhavingfun wrote:
BS4125 wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:Ok so I can nfortnatelay can't quote because I'm on mobile but I wrote what I think is the best place for roles. Of course don't take it wholesale but I hope you like some of my ideas and add them

Trusted
Jailor
Idk why but I like Jailor in the cannot be Trusted result. Gives the role a twist and makes town think before they go to lynch someone from this rolenot like jailor is gonna get claimed any time soon. So I thought I might as well put him here because of lore
Doctor
Meh, it can go here or Kind of Trusted doesn't really mattertrue but lorewise he should be here. Also he is a nice claimspace so I thought h could go in the most innocent category
Transporter
Transporter is very OP rn so I think placing it in lower results can nerf it a biti think having him where godfather is is quite a nerf because mafia is the only one who may try to fake him
Interviewer
Agreed
Sheriff
Agreed
Investigator
Agreed
Godfather
Agreed
(Serial killer)
If Serial Killer was in here then it makes the top result a result to look out for. It needs to go lowerwell it should be something you should look out for. And tahts one of the main reasons I put a lot townies in here. Town investigatives and Doctor are really nice claims and important roles
Executioner
Agreed
Janitor
Meh, I guess this role can with a buff and is better than Blackmailor currentlyyeah but o thought allowing the interviewer to tell janitor apart from the medium could buff him

Kind of trusted
Lookout
Agreed
Bodygaurd
Bodyguard is under too much pressure as it is with the Investigator result, needs to be higherif he is higher he is in the same one as gf and that turns out to be more pressure. This again allows the interviewer to tell them apart but it keeps him in the same as arsonist
Amnesiac
Agreed
Survivor
Agreed
Medium
Agreed
Werewolf
Borderline fine but I still feel Werewolf needs a buff atmthpughtvof putting him in trusted but that would be a lot of scum. Also buffing the werewolf will take more than giving him claims, he needs more power
Arsonist
Agreed
Consigliere
I feel this role can go here or lower but I still think lower is better as it is a powerful role yeah guess I can do with putting him in cannot be trusted
Forger
Agreed
Witch
Can go here but I feel Witch is weak atm and hard to survive astrue but putting her more up is bad for lore and doesn't offer much
(Serial killer )
Can go here or lowerserial killer is kinda weak so putting him lower wouldn't be a nice idea

Cannot be trusted
Spy
Agreed
Escort
I guesswould YOU trust a prostitute?
Vampire hunter
Agreed
Mayor
Why can't Mayor be trusted, should be in the first result it fits with the reveal mechanic
retributonist
Agreed or it can go in Kind of Trusted
Vigilante
Agreed
Consort
I guess, should be in he same result as Escortsee escort
Blackmailer
Agreed, this role is too OP atm
Framer
Agreed
Jester
Agreed
Vampire
Agreed
Disguiser
Agreed
Mafioso
Agreed


Thanks for the feedback, I do like your adaption however some roles don't really fit. Thanks tho :P

Just answering some questions I can take criticism. I am happy you liked my suggestions

After reading your explainations as to why I agree with you more tbh. I'm gonna swap Bodyguard with Doctor and Janitor with Blackmailor and move some roles around to move Werewolf and Witch to Kind of Trusted

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby kookeekwisp » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:35 pm

Can you PLEASE put those in Spoilers? It's 4 posts, and it's already half as long as a page full of posts.
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:01 am

kookeekwisp wrote:Can you PLEASE put those in Spoilers? It's 4 posts, and it's already half as long as a page full of posts.

Will do next time, I have a headache too from scrolling

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby Tigerleap » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:05 am

Broken role idea. All the scum roles in Not Trusted apart from Mafioso are SCREWED. But this role is useless against everything else.

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:29 am

Tigerleap wrote:Broken role idea. All the scum roles in Not Trusted apart from Mafioso are SCREWED. But this role is useless against everything else.

But the thing is is that you don't know the exact category of the 2 roles you interviewed

Example:
You get this message: "____ is the most trustworthy"

So the 2 roles you interviewed are in...
Trusted or Kind or Trusted
Kind of Trusted or Cannot be Trusted
Trusted or Cannot be Trusted

It is mostly impossible from this ability to actually confirm a role into one of these categories because you would need to compare them to two confirmed roles that are still alive and you 100% know is telling the truth about. Therefore this role could become useful at the end of the game as most of the roles are dead which may have been interviewed before so you can then start piecing together who's bad by who's in each result

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:03 am

Tigerleap wrote:Broken role idea. All the scum roles in Not Trusted apart from Mafioso are SCREWED. But this role is useless against everything else.

Framer is framer so he is kinda protected and othe roles can fake Vigi too. Also jester. Vampires could fake vh.

But I think you should swap sk and disguiser
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:08 am

randomguyhavingfun wrote:
Tigerleap wrote:Broken role idea. All the scum roles in Not Trusted apart from Mafioso are SCREWED. But this role is useless against everything else.

Framer is framer so he is kinda protected and othe roles can fake Vigi too. Also jester. Vampires could fake vh.

But I think you should swap sk and disguiser

If I swap Disguiser with SK then all the NK's are in all one result which means that that result can confirm who is NK

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:51 am

BS4125 wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:
Tigerleap wrote:Broken role idea. All the scum roles in Not Trusted apart from Mafioso are SCREWED. But this role is useless against everything else.

Framer is framer so he is kinda protected and othe roles can fake Vigi too. Also jester. Vampires could fake vh.

But I think you should swap sk and disguiser

If I swap Disguiser with SK then all the NK's are in all one result which means that that result can confirm who is NK

Yes but nks are not the only roles in there
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:05 pm

randomguyhavingfun wrote:
BS4125 wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:
Tigerleap wrote:Broken role idea. All the scum roles in Not Trusted apart from Mafioso are SCREWED. But this role is useless against everything else.

Framer is framer so he is kinda protected and othe roles can fake Vigi too. Also jester. Vampires could fake vh.

But I think you should swap sk and disguiser

If I swap Disguiser with SK then all the NK's are in all one result which means that that result can confirm who is NK

Yes but nks are not the only roles in there

I guess but still there will be only 1 killing role in the last result then which doesn't really make sense as it equals the top result and there's already too many Mafia roles IMO in the last group

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:10 am

Can people say why they don't like the role please in the comments instead of voting then just leaving. I'm doing the best I can from everyone's perspective

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BlazinIce » Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:04 am

BS4125 wrote:Can people say why they don't like the role please in the comments instead of voting then just leaving. I'm doing the best I can from everyone's perspective

Sorry. Move WW into trusted, and spy into not trusted.
I wasn't one of those voters, though
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:31 am

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BS4125 wrote:Can people say why they don't like the role please in the comments instead of voting then just leaving. I'm doing the best I can from everyone's perspective

Sorry. Move WW into trusted, and spy into not trusted.
I wasn't one of those voters, though

Ok,.. thanks for helping though!

I have swapped Werewolf and Lookout, I agree that Werewolf needs a buff however I didn't move Spy just because Blackmailor is already in the lowest result so if those are both together then it makes this role more UP as Blackmailor can just keep claiming Spy and gets away with it everytime

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:48 am

BS4125 wrote:
BlazinIce wrote:
BS4125 wrote:Can people say why they don't like the role please in the comments instead of voting then just leaving. I'm doing the best I can from everyone's perspective

Sorry. Move WW into trusted, and spy into not trusted.
I wasn't one of those voters, though

Ok,.. thanks for helping though!

I have swapped Werewolf and Lookout, I agree that Werewolf needs a buff however I didn't move Spy just because Blackmailor is already in the lowest result so if those are both together then it makes this role more UP as Blackmailor can just keep claiming Spy and gets away with it everytime

With that change however kind of trusted is now a more favorable result that trusted. Move sk up please.
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:00 am

randomguyhavingfun wrote:
BS4125 wrote:
BlazinIce wrote:
BS4125 wrote:Can people say why they don't like the role please in the comments instead of voting then just leaving. I'm doing the best I can from everyone's perspective

Sorry. Move WW into trusted, and spy into not trusted.
I wasn't one of those voters, though

Ok,.. thanks for helping though!

I have swapped Werewolf and Lookout, I agree that Werewolf needs a buff however I didn't move Spy just because Blackmailor is already in the lowest result so if those are both together then it makes this role more UP as Blackmailor can just keep claiming Spy and gets away with it everytime

With that change however kind of trusted is now a more favorable result that trusted. Move sk up please.

Will do

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:36 am

Added a message on the poll to comment what things need to be improved and moved a few roles around.

Please contribute people with this role, voting that you hate it and not helping doesn't give me anything to go off of really

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby WindBlqde » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:47 am

This is a good idea, but it needs to be buffed. Maybe add another category or two?
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:59 am

WindBlqde wrote:This is a good idea, but it needs to be buffed. Maybe add another category or two?

See I would but then it would be too similar to the Investigator IMO. You know what ill experiment about this because I remember I had a post like this one in the past and see if it will work

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But overall the role for this topic needs work, I mean it's so bad people would rather
get off topic lol.

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:58 am

WindBlqde wrote:This is a good idea, but it needs to be buffed. Maybe add another category or two?

well it can seperate roles from each other so it kinda works well against claimers or with an invest. having 5 categories means its too investigator like and tehre is barely ahy roles in each
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:23 pm

randomguyhavingfun wrote:
WindBlqde wrote:This is a good idea, but it needs to be buffed. Maybe add another category or two?

well it can seperate roles from each other so it kinda works well against claimers or with an invest. having 5 categories means its too investigator like and tehre is barely ahy roles in each

When I exeperinented with it the role just turned into a doppelgänger of the Investigator, I think it's best with 3

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby kookeekwisp » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:35 pm

How about just general abilities, instead of multiple role groups, so it's less confusing?
Like, Investigative are the most trustworthy, killing's the least, etc.
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:51 pm

kookeekwisp wrote:How about just general abilities, instead of multiple role groups, so it's less confusing?
Like, Investigative are the most trustworthy, killing's the least, etc.

That is gonna turn out mixed. I can't tell.See what others think
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 2:14 pm

randomguyhavingfun wrote:
kookeekwisp wrote:How about just general abilities, instead of multiple role groups, so it's less confusing?
Like, Investigative are the most trustworthy, killing's the least, etc.

That is gonna turn out mixed. I can't tell.See what others think

This role is like a clean slate, it could go in so many directions. I'm trying to make this role be the most original yet understandable role it can be which the majority favours. I know it's a long climb so why not start building the stairs?

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