1.6 investigator results with possible new roles

[BS4125]

1.5 brought a balanching in the investigator results but there are still problematic results like gf/arso/bg or lo/amne/forger. Investigator results will need to be rebalanched both in order to fix such problems and include new roles that are supposed to come out with the patch. so i decided to go ahead and create a new list including some popular roles that have been suggested. Note that some of the roles may not end up in the results their creators have them in, but im working with a different list here.

I didnt really take permission from any of the creators because who does that? If any creator doesnt want his role to be here just PM me and i will take it out.

THE ROLES I USED

Spoiler: UNDERTAKER
PLASTIC SURGEON
POLYMATH
DISTRIBUTOR
SABOTEUR

NOW FOR THE ACTUALL LIST

Spoiler: DOCTORGODFATHERVAMPIRE HUNTERMAYOR
Your target has a lot to manage
Better, lots of roles for GF to claim but it's mainly going to be Doctor. I don't see how Doctor goes into the lore but good for everything else
ESCORTCONSORTTRANSPORTER
Your target is a master manipulator
Same
SPYBLACKMAILERJAILOR
your target listens to secret conversations
Same but I still think that Mayor should go here instead of Jailor as when Mayor doesn't pass the spy test he can just reveal if he's on trial but Jailor can't
MEDIUMJANITORUNDERTAKER
Your target is looking for the dead
Fine
FRAMERVAMPIREPLASTIC SURGEON
your target may not be what they seem
Same with what I said last time but there's no cause for concern really
BODYGAURDWEREWOLFARSONIST
your target obliterates his foes
Ik you said it's not likely for there to be 2 NK's in many games but there is Custom and All Any games where it can be a problem and the Any category in Ranked Practice could be another NK. I think you should swap out one of the NK's and put them with the Executioner to balence it
LOOKOUTWITCHSABOTEUR
Your target sticks to the shadows
Fine, Lookout is easy to claim
MafiosoVETERANSHERIFFexecutioner
your target Has secrets he doesn't reveal
Mafioso has hardly any pressure which could balence other results with high pressure
REtributonistDISTRIBUTORDISGUISERJESTER
Your target sometimes does outwordly actions
Retributionist shouldn't be your only town claim
InvestigatorConsiglierePOLYMATHAMNESIAC
Your target can amke conclusions from even small hints
Fine
VIGILANTESERIAL KILLERFORGERSURVIVOR
Your target puts a lot of thought into his actions
Better, has a claim for the SK now

Comments in bold

[randomguyhavingfun]

Doctor fits in the lore as he needs to keep his patients life.

As I said custom can't be helped and all any is meant to be chaotic so it can't be balanched. The any slot should dissapear from ranked but if it doesn't well the chances of it rolling one of them is only 2/32 so I think it is manageable. I do consider tweaking with this though.

Mafioso is confirmed so I think that is A LOT of pressure.

The possibility of a jester should hell equalize things and disguiser is slippery. He could disguise the night and be gone. Distributor can protect himself from investigations so I think it should be ok.

I'm gonna change mayor and jailor experimentally and see what other people have to say and how this works out.

[BS4125]

Doctor fits in the lore as he needs to keep his patients life.

As I said custom can't be helped and all any is meant to be chaotic so it can't be balanched. The any slot should dissapear from ranked but if it doesn't well the chances of it rolling one of them is only 2/32 so I think it is manageable. I do consider tweaking with this though.

Mafioso is confirmed so I think that is A LOT of pressure.

The possibility of a jester should hell equalize things and disguiser is slippery. He could disguise the night and be gone. Distributor can protect himself from investigations so I think it should be ok.

I'm gonna change mayor and jailor experimentally and see what other people have to say and how this works out.

Right ok but those are just my opinions
What I think you should do is make a poll with each investigator result you have and ask people to vote for which ones should be edited

[randomguyhavingfun]

Doctor fits in the lore as he needs to keep his patients life.

As I said custom can't be helped and all any is meant to be chaotic so it can't be balanched. The any slot should dissapear from ranked but if it doesn't well the chances of it rolling one of them is only 2/32 so I think it is manageable. I do consider tweaking with this though.

Mafioso is confirmed so I think that is A LOT of pressure.

The possibility of a jester should hell equalize things and disguiser is slippery. He could disguise the night and be gone. Distributor can protect himself from investigations so I think it should be ok.

I'm gonna change mayor and jailor experimentally and see what other people have to say and how this works out.

Right ok but those are just my opinions
What I think you should do is make a poll with each investigator result you have and ask people to vote for which ones should be edited

Nice idea I'm on it

[randomguyhavingfun]

I created 2 new variations for comparison. They both change results people didn't seem to like too much. This means that I had to delete the post so feedback is appreciated.

[randomguyhavingfun]

Ok I just put out a different poll so I can get an idea of what to work with.

[randomguyhavingfun]

Can those who voted maybe with some changes say what these should be?

[randomguyhavingfun]

I just created a newer version 1.2 . It's basically just trying some random changes I came up with in certain results and some better lore for others. The poll has been altered so be sure to recast your votes if they were changed

[BS4125]

THE ROLES I USED

Spoiler: UNDERTAKER
PLASTIC SURGEON
POLYMATH
DISTRIBUTOR
SABOTEUR

NOW FOR THE ACTUALL LIST

v1.2

Spoiler: godfathertransporterdoctormayor
Your target is trying to avoid a certain event
Mayor and Transporter are just shoved into this result, they don't help the Godfather's claim at all, Godfather should be with Sheriff and Executioner which offers a lot of space
escortconsort
Your target is a manipulative beauty
I actually think it's bad if Consort has to claim Escort, if the Consort does then it can never roleblock confirmed Town roles and when there's no TS RT or Any left you are confirmed as a Consort and not an Escort
lookoutwitchdistributorundertaker
Your target is fully immersed in his job
Witch should be with Investigator and Consigliere with its latest buff, also it's too much pressure on the Lookout
mediumjanitorforgerretributonist
Your target is interested in corpses
Two Mafia roles should never be in the same result unless one of them is Framer because it doubles the chances of the Investigator finding a Mafia role and Mafia is already weak, also it's a ton of pressure on Medium since Retributionist is never claimable
sheriffexecutionermafiosojester
Your target has high ambitions
Too much pressure on the Sheriff, it can't handle Jester as well and it is already seen as iffy by the public, Mafioso deserves to be with Vigilante and Godfather is good with Sheriff and Executioner
framervampiredisguiserplastic surgeon
Your target is cloaked in mystery
With the recent poll it is likely that Arsonist will get a framing buff therefore it will be placed in here, Plastic Surgeon has to pray there's a Framer so it can actually claim a role
bodygaurdveteranwerewolfarsonist
Your target is an intimidating opponent
If there's no Arsonist of Werewolf in the game the Bodyguard and Veteran are confirmed and when they are both in the game it's too much pressure on Bodyguard and Veteran
vigilantesurvivorserial killersaboteur
Your target is carefully planing his moves
Way too much pressure on the Vigilante, Survivor shouldn't really be placed with a killing role
investigatorconsiglierepolymathamnesiac
Your target pays attention to the details
A little too much pressure on the Investigator
spyblackmailerjailorvampire hunter
Your target knows secrets
Way to many town roles for the Blackmailor, the Blackmailor is OP already it doesn't need this many claims and these Town roles could have been dispersed in the other results with high pressure

[randomguyhavingfun]

I will be working on a reform taking into account the witches new ability very soon. You can expect to see other results change as well

[sh99er]

what about the role cannibal ;-;, i wish that had a chance to get in lol (maybe it does and i just dunno)

[randomguyhavingfun]

what about the role cannibal ;-;, i wish that had a chance to get in lol (maybe it does and i just dunno)

There aren't many popular town roles and since I already put in many neutrals I had to leave out some evils I wanted to get in so I don't have a claimspace problem. In fact I think even now I have more evils than I should.

[BS4125]

what about the role cannibal ;-;, i wish that had a chance to get in lol (maybe it does and i just dunno)

There aren't many popular town roles and since I already put in many neutrals I had to leave out some evils I wanted to get in so I don't have a claimspace problem. In fact I think even now I have more evils than I should.

May I suggest for Town roles:
Interviewer
Rain Dancer
Scientist
Coroner
Spiritualist

[randomguyhavingfun]

what about the role cannibal ;-;, i wish that had a chance to get in lol (maybe it does and i just dunno)

There aren't many popular town roles and since I already put in many neutrals I had to leave out some evils I wanted to get in so I don't have a claimspace problem. In fact I think even now I have more evils than I should.

May I suggest for Town roles:
Interviewersince controversy is sourouding this role on whether its up or not i dont want to include it until this is sorted out
Rain Danceri dont think it will help too much as he isnt too good of a claim but ill consider it
Scientist cant find this guy. can you provide a link?
Coroneri dont think he is balanched enough right now and it seems im not the only one
Spiritualistive already got roles to pair with neutral evilsi dont need their counterpart in here

1.3 is here. be sure to recast your vote as the poll went nuts after i updated it. constructive criticism is always appreciated. i tried working around some problems but there are still some results i do not exactly like. make sure to check the notes section

[randomguyhavingfun]

Is anyone going to.offer feedback on the new version?