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BPsycho2 wrote:I prefer you wait until orange gets done with his next list.
BUT

I appreciate that you took my advice.

Sheriff, Executioner, Godfather is there. Thank You.

ok98161 wrote:The only problem is that you use roles that aren't confirmed to be added. If I were you I'd balance the list first, then add some user roles.

BS4125 wrote:On another topic lots of people said that the investigator results are not the best and tried to fix them.
Here's where we got to, (It is not the best but I did the best I could)

Vigilante Mafioso Jester- May be a killer
Bodyguard Godfather Veteran- Faces death regularly
Lookout Survivor Arsonist- Plays the long game
Sheriff Executioner Werewolf- Is waiting to strike
Doctor Disguiser Serial Killer- Is covered in blood
Spy Blackmailor Jailor- Knows people's secrets
Investigator Consigliere Mayor- Has information to reveal
Retributionist Forger Witch- Keeps to themselves
Medium Janitor Vampire Hunter- Works with dead bodies
Escort Consort Transporter- Is skilled at disrupting others
Framer Amnesiac Vampire- May not be who they seem

randomguyhavingfun wrote:

BS4125 wrote:On another topic lots of people said that the investigator results are not the best and tried to fix them.
Here's where we got to, (It is not the best but I did the best I could)

Vigilante Mafioso Jester- May be a killer
Bodyguard Godfather Veteran- Faces death regularly
Lookout Survivor Arsonist- Plays the long game
Sheriff Executioner Werewolf- Is waiting to strike
Doctor Disguiser Serial Killer- Is covered in blood
Spy Blackmailor Jailor- Knows people's secrets
Investigator Consigliere Mayor- Has information to reveal
Retributionist Forger Witch- Keeps to themselves
Medium Janitor Vampire Hunter- Works with dead bodies
Escort Consort Transporter- Is skilled at disrupting others
Framer Amnesiac Vampire- May not be who they seem

The doc result has too few pressure and pairing amne with framer and vampire confirms him easily. Mafioso result isn't looking bright for the mafioso as he is probably getting shot by a vig or exed and doesn't have much to claim. Lastly the forger and the witch are screwed when investigated. I like my version better, it was based of the same thread. You didn't really change anything in yours.

BS4125 wrote:This is my try:

Roles I used (click to be transported to the site)

Spoiler: UNDERTAKER
PLASTIC SURGEON
POLYMATH
SABOTEUR
CONFESSOR
OBSTRUCTOR
SNIPER
ELECTRICIAN

INVESTIGATOR RESULTS

Bodyguard, Godfather, Veteran: Faces death regularlynice result but I'm afraid it will screw up the other ones
Investigator, Consigliere, Polymath, Mayor: Has information to revealnice one
Spy, Blackmailor, Confessor: Knows your darkest secrets dont know this role so I can't answer
Lookout, Survivor, Arsonist: Plays the long gamenot bad
Jailor, Saboteur, Obstructor: Does things against peoples' willok
Vigilante, Mafioso, Jester: May be a killermafioso doesn't have the space he needs.
Escort, Consort, Witch, Transporter: Is skilled at disrupting othersR.I.P the witch
Medium, Janitor, Vampire Hunter: Works with dead bodiesi like my lore more but anyway
Sheriff, Executioner, Werewolf: Is waiting to strikenot bad?
Doctor, Disguiser, Serial Killer: Is covered in blooddoc should have more pressure
Sniper, Forger, Amnesiac: Hides in the shadowsWAY too much pressure in here
Retributionist, Electrician, Undertaker: Does strange things to peopleelectrician can barely manage this
Framer, Plastic Surgeon, Vampire: May not be who they seemcool

BPsycho2 wrote:Sheriff, Executioner, Godfather, Electrician- Your target is relentless.one town role and 3 evils. One of which is confirmed. I'm gonna have to say this is a bad result
Escort, Transporter, Consort- Your target is a manipulator.good one
Medium, Retributionist, Undertaker, Janitor.- Your target works with the dead.nice
Investigator, Mayor, Polymath, Consigliere.- Your target gathers information.cool
Spy, Confessor, [Politician], Blackmailer- Your target works with secrets.politician?
Obstructor, Jailor,Vigilante, Saboteur- Your target works outside the lawnot enough pressure to the vig in here.
Bodyguard, Jester, Mafioso, Arsonist.- Your target sees a light.dat lore though. Nice result overall but I think weerwolf is better fit than arsonist
Lookout, Sniper, Forger, Witch.- Your target sticks to the shadows.cool
Doctor, Amnesiac, Disguiser, Serial Killer- Your target smells of chemicals.nice result not gonna lie. But I would rather disguiser be replaced.
Framer, Vampire, Plastic Surgeon- Your target likes tricking people.awesome

is for the above list ^

BPsycho2 wrote:Sheriff, Executioner, Godfather is the perfect result. I just shoved electrician in there since it was necessary to have a spot.

Unless you want Vigilante, Electrician to be a thing.. but no Mafia role is in there

BPsycho2 wrote:Sheriff, Executioner, Godfather, Electrician- Your target is relentless.
Too much pressure on one town role which is already hated who it is placed currently in ToS. Also if you claim Executioner Town rarely accepts it and lynches you
Escort, Transporter, Consort- Your target is a manipulator.
Same
Medium, Retributionist, Undertaker, Janitor.- Your target works with the dead.
Good result
Investigator, Mayor, Polymath, Consigliere.- Your target gathers information.
Maybe a little too much pressure on Investigator
Spy, Confessor, [Politician], Blackmailer- Your target works with secrets.
Good result
Obstructor, Jailor,Vigilante, Saboteur- Your target works outside the law
Too many town for just 1 Mafia role. Vigilante should be moved somewhere else
Bodyguard, Jester, Mafioso, Arsonist.- Your target sees a light.
This is basically the same as the BG GF and Arso result currently, too many killing roles with BG
Lookout, Sniper, Forger, Witch.- Your target sticks to the shadows.
Good result, better for Witch
Doctor, Amnesiac, Disguiser, Serial Killer- Your target smells of chemicals.
Too much pressure on Doctor as Amnesiac can be confirmed easily
Framer, Vampire, Plastic Surgeon- Your target likes tricking people.
Good result

is for the above list ^

BS4125 wrote:

BPsycho2 wrote:Sheriff, Executioner, Godfather, Electrician- Your target is relentless.
Too much pressure on one town role which is already hated who it is placed currently in ToS. Also if you claim Executioner Town rarely accepts it and lynches you
Escort, Transporter, Consort- Your target is a manipulator.
Same
Medium, Retributionist, Undertaker, Janitor.- Your target works with the dead.
Good result
Investigator, Mayor, Polymath, Consigliere.- Your target gathers information.
Maybe a little too much pressure on Investigator
Spy, Confessor, [Politician], Blackmailer- Your target works with secrets.
Good result
Obstructor, Jailor,Vigilante, Saboteur- Your target works outside the law
Too many town for just 1 Mafia role. Vigilante should be moved somewhere else
Bodyguard, Jester, Mafioso, Arsonist.- Your target sees a light.
This is basically the same as the BG GF and Arso result currently, too many killing roles with BG
Lookout, Sniper, Forger, Witch.- Your target sticks to the shadows.
Good result, better for Witch
Doctor, Amnesiac, Disguiser, Serial Killer- Your target smells of chemicals.
Too much pressure on Doctor as Amnesiac can be confirmed easily
Framer, Vampire, Plastic Surgeon- Your target likes tricking people.
Good result

is for the above list ^

randomguyhavingfun wrote:

BS4125 wrote:

BPsycho2 wrote:Sheriff, Executioner, Godfather, Electrician- Your target is relentless.
Too much pressure on one town role which is already hated who it is placed currently in ToS. Also if you claim Executioner Town rarely accepts it and lynches you
Escort, Transporter, Consort- Your target is a manipulator.
Same
Medium, Retributionist, Undertaker, Janitor.- Your target works with the dead.
Good result
Investigator, Mayor, Polymath, Consigliere.- Your target gathers information.
Maybe a little too much pressure on Investigator
Spy, Confessor, [Politician], Blackmailer- Your target works with secrets.
Good result
Obstructor, Jailor,Vigilante, Saboteur- Your target works outside the law
Too many town for just 1 Mafia role. Vigilante should be moved somewhere else
Bodyguard, Jester, Mafioso, Arsonist.- Your target sees a light.
This is basically the same as the BG GF and Arso result currently, too many killing roles with BG
Lookout, Sniper, Forger, Witch.- Your target sticks to the shadows.
Good result, better for Witch
Doctor, Amnesiac, Disguiser, Serial Killer- Your target smells of chemicals.
Too much pressure on Doctor as Amnesiac can be confirmed easily
Framer, Vampire, Plastic Surgeon- Your target likes tricking people.
Good result

is for the above list ^

I still don't get why the politician is in a parenthesis. Is that how it's called in English?

randomguyhavingfun wrote:1.5 brought a balanching in the investigator results but there are still problematic results like gf/arso/bg or lo/amne/forger. Investigator results will need to be rebalanched both in order to fix such problems and include new roles that are supposed to come out with the patch. so i decided to go ahead and create a new list including some popular roles that have been suggested. Note that some of the roles may not end up in the results their creators have them in, but im working with a different list here.

I didnt really take permission from any of the creators because who does that? If any creator doesnt want his role to be here just PM me and i will take it out.

THE ROLES I USED

Spoiler: UNDERTAKER
PLASTIC SURGEON
POLYMATH
DISTRIBUTOR
SABOTEUR

NOW FOR THE ACTUALL LIST

Spoiler: DOCTORMAFIOSOVETERANMAYOR
your taget often thinks of death
Has lots of claims for Mafioso but these roles can have more pressure put with them, Vigilante should be with Mafioso as its a good claim
ESCORTCONSORTTRANSPORTER
Your target is a master manipulator
Same
SPYBLACKMAILERJAILOR
your target listens to secret conversations
Same but I'd prefer if Mayor was put here instead of Jailor so Jailor isn't confirmed when he doesn't pass the spy test
MEDIUMJANITORVAMPIRE HUNTERUNDERTAKER
Your target is looking for the dead
Good result
FRAMERVAMPIREPLASTIC SURGEON
your target may not be what they seem
Buffs Framer but nerfs Vampires
BODYGAURDWEREWOLFARSONIST
your target obliterates his foes
Too much pressure on one Town, Werewolf and Arsonist are easily confirmed in the game and this is pretty much the exact same result as the worst one in the game currently
LOOKOUTWITCHSABOTEUR
Your target sticks to the shadows
Fine
GODFATHERSURVIVORSHERIFFexecutioner
your target is often stressed
Lots of pressure on Sheriff and Survivor isn't really an accepted role
REtributonistDISTRIBUTORDISGUISERJESTER
Your target sometimes does outwordly actions
Gives no claim for the Disguiser and Distributer and the Jester has nothing with it that makes him look suspicious. Ik you said it gives the Disguiser one more day to disguise but what if they are out of disguises or the Mafioso is RB'd?
InvestigatorConsiglierePOLYMATHAMNESIAC
Your target can amke conclusions from even small hints
Lots of pressure on one Town role, not good
VIGILANTESERIAL KILLERFORGER
Your target puts a lot of thought into his actions
Serial Killer has no way of explaining his Night Immunity and if there's no Vigilante in the game the Serial Killer and Forger are dead

jadensr wrote:I dislike the new investigation results that you created. I like the ones we were recently just given.

These are the new investigation results.

Your target is skilled at disrupting others. - Escort, Transporter, or Consort.

Your target has sensitive information to reveal. - Investigator, Mayor, or a Consigliere.

Your target is waiting for the perfect moment to strike. - Sheriff, Executioner, or a Werewolf.

Your target owns a gun. - Vigilante, Mafioso, or a Veteran.

Your target sticks to the shadows. - Lookout, Forger, or Amnesiac.

Your target knows your darkest secrets. - Spy, Blackmailer, or a Jailor.

Your target is covered in blood. - Doctor, Disguiser, or a Serial Killer.

Your target is not afraid to get their hands dirty. - Bodyguard, Godfather, or Arsonist.

Your target keeps to themselves. - Survivor, Vampire Hunter, or a Witch.

Your target might not be what they seem. - Framer, Vampire, or Jester.

You would need to incorporate these roles into these results.

Sincerely,
Jaden.

randomguyhavingfun wrote:

jadensr wrote:I dislike the new investigation results that you created. I like the ones we were recently just given.

These are the new investigation results.

Your target is skilled at disrupting others. - Escort, Transporter, or Consort.

Your target has sensitive information to reveal. - Investigator, Mayor, or a Consigliere.

Your target is waiting for the perfect moment to strike. - Sheriff, Executioner, or a Werewolf.

Your target owns a gun. - Vigilante, Mafioso, or a Veteran.

Your target sticks to the shadows. - Lookout, Forger, or Amnesiac.

Your target knows your darkest secrets. - Spy, Blackmailer, or a Jailor.

Your target is covered in blood. - Doctor, Disguiser, or a Serial Killer.

Your target is not afraid to get their hands dirty. - Bodyguard, Godfather, or Arsonist.

Your target keeps to themselves. - Survivor, Vampire Hunter, or a Witch.

Your target might not be what they seem. - Framer, Vampire, or Jester.

You would need to incorporate these roles into these results.

Sincerely,
Jaden.

I know what the current investigative results look like. There are many flaws into them though. Then again everyone has an opinion.

@BS4125
Well Doctor is a better claim than vigilante. And vigilante is a good claim for other roles. And I think a confirmed Mafia puts a lot of pressure on these roles

I might change jailor from there. Then again I think confirming the mayor is worse than confirming the jailor.

Vamps are nerfed yeah but in the modes they do show up they are quite powerfull since they can now kill Mafia and convert others so I don't think they will mind too much. And we all know framer is weak.

You won't see werewolf and arsonist in one game really. ( unless you are playing all any which is meant to be crazy or custom which can't be helped ) so it is much better since there is now no confirmed scum with bg. He is paired with two guys that may not even be there. But if they are there it is just one of them. So I definetly think this is much more favorable for the bg.

Well I thought putting survivor in the would help the gf with his night immunity. Should I get the veteran back?

This result helps the jester a lot as it puts him with scummy roles and an impossible claim which he can use to his advantage. Disguiser is gonna get buffed or removed and if he is buffed he will be very hard to track down. It is natural he should have some weakness. If the investigators keeps finding you then I am surprised. 3 uses isn't too little you know. And the distributor. I mean he doesn't really fit somewhere. I could move him to the lookout but I think that is a lot of pressure.

Serial killer has no way to explain his night immunity but then again he doesn't really have one now either. He can pull a vig claim very decently. And yeah if there is no vigilante in the game they are dead but vig does show up frequently enough to cover them. This is one of the results I don't like that much though.