Politician (Neutral Evil)

[Kirize12]

If you want an auto-vest, just make it a normal one, like the BG/Survivor one, which is pierced by WW and Arso, since it's night immunity.

No. Scum autovests not only encourage better play but allow for better synergy with other evil roles.

P-EDIT: Jailor should pierce this role as well. (._. )

Pageget!

[simabean]

In my opinion, a role that already has a power shouldn't get vests. Much less a auto-vest. Survivors get vests because it's there sole ability. BG because they are TP. Witch has mega-useful power, and can confirm to evils. Politician could MAYBE have one vest, but it should be manual.

[Mace8937]

In my opinion, a role that already has a power shouldn't get vests. Much less a auto-vest. Survivors get vests because it's there sole ability. BG because they are TP. Witch has mega-useful power, and can confirm to evils. Politician could MAYBE have one vest, but it should be manual.

Manually press a button to put on a vest, AND steal someone's vote?
It would be too confusing to know which button does which

[simabean]

Simple: Make self-target vest.

[Mace8937]

Simple: Make self-target vest.

It shouldn't have a manual vest as a NE, that's for TP who protect people otherwise.

[simabean]

Then why do you want it to have protection?

[Kirize12]

Then why do you want it to have protection?

Because it needs some?

[BPsycho2]

Then why do you want it to have protection?

Because it needs some?

I don't understand why it wouldn't need protection against it's own friends.

Town has protection against it's own friends, just a less good way

Vig kills self
Jailor can't kill.

[Kirize12]

Then why do you want it to have protection?

Because it needs some?

I don't understand why it wouldn't need protection against it's own friends.

Town has protection against it's own friends, just a less good way

Vig kills self
Jailor can't kill.

I mean, it's not like they know you're their friend. Act too pro-town but not enough to get protected and they'll kill you anyways.

[BPsycho2]

Mafia don't know if the Witch is their friend.

Either way, needs protection.

[Kirize12]

Mafia don't know if the Witch is their friend.

Either way, needs protection.

Potential ally > No ally.

[simabean]

Then why do you want it to have protection?

Because it needs some?

This is basically turning the role into Evil Survivor+. You get survivor abilities, and commandeer votes.

[Kirize12]

The fact that it can't win with town, combined with the fact that it must live, is a major nerf by default.

[simabean]

Witch manages.

[BPsycho2]

It has a Witch Wincon, right?

So, I don't understand the issue.

Still needs protection.

Also, Witches have the same deal. THEY need protection.

[s1rr0]

I actually really enjoy this role concept and can see it working in the game. Glad I came across this!

Definitely in favor of it being night immune and Neutral Evil.

[Kirize12]

No, not night immunity. Scum autovest at most.

[s1rr0]

No, not night immunity. Scum autovest at most.

Or yes, that. Either way it needs some sort of protection or it'll be screwed over like the Witch.

[BPsycho2]

It needs one automatic vesting system at least. It's unique, so night immunity can be argued.

(Once again, just buff vig to pierce)

[Scootalootaloo]

I do like this role in theory, although I'm not sure about the whole protection stuff and how to deal with that. I'm really not contributing anything to the conversation- just felt like bumping the thread tbh.

[BPsycho2]

If you're forced to bribe yourself, you should get two votes, that can be used the same way.

LeftBox: Mace has voted against Trump
RightBox: Vote counter goes up with no notification

Achievements
The new Don: Win with Mafia
No town left to lead: Win with a Neutral Killer
Let's just go home: Win with ONLY A Survivor, or another NE
Pointless: Win by yourself
Remember to vote for me: Win alone WITH an Amnesiac who forgot to remember
NOPE: Bribe a Mayor to have him reveal and steal his vote back from you
It's a bloody business: Bribe a Vampire
Republican: Bribe a Godfather
Double Trouble- Bribe yourself
That's my job: Vote an Executioner, or Framer
Honest Politician: Don't bribe anyone and win
Cold War: Bribe a dead person [killed by nontown]
Success: Bribe a Town member that is lynched/killed by town some time after the bribe

[Mace8937]

If you're forced to bribe yourself, you should get two votes, that can be used the same way.

LeftBox: Mace has voted against Trump
RightBox: Vote counter goes up with no notification

Achievements
The new Don: Win with Mafia
No town left to lead: Win with a Neutral Killer
Let's just go home: Win with ONLY A Survivor, or another NE
Pointless: Win by yourself
Remember to vote for me: Win alone WITH an Amnesiac who forgot to remember
NOPE: Bribe a Mayor to have him reveal and steal his vote back from you
It's a bloody business: Bribe a Vampire
Republican: Bribe a Godfather
Double Trouble- Bribe yourself
That's my job: Vote an Executioner, or Framer
Honest Politician: Don't bribe anyone and win
Cold War: Bribe a dead person [killed by nontown]
Success: Bribe a Town member that is lynched/killed by town some time after the bribe

That would be cool.
I'll implement it.
And thanks, I was hoping someone would help me with those

EDIT: What are the Right/Left boxes?

[BPsycho2]

If you're forced to bribe yourself, you should get two votes, that can be used the same way.

LeftBox: Mace has voted against Trump
RightBox: Vote counter goes up with no notification

Achievements
The new Don: Win with Mafia
No town left to lead: Win with a Neutral Killer
Let's just go home: Win with ONLY A Survivor, or another NE
Pointless: Win by yourself
Remember to vote for me: Win alone WITH an Amnesiac who forgot to remember
NOPE: Bribe a Mayor to have him reveal and steal his vote back from you
It's a bloody business: Bribe a Vampire
Republican: Bribe a Godfather
Double Trouble- Bribe yourself
That's my job: Vote an Executioner, or Framer
Honest Politician: Don't bribe anyone and win
Cold War: Bribe a dead person [killed by nontown]
Success: Bribe a Town member that is lynched/killed by town some time after the bribe

That would be cool.
I'll implement it.
And thanks, I was hoping someone would help me with those

EDIT: What are the Right/Left boxes?

Look at the Witch and Transporter.

They have two target (other) boxes.

One is on the left, one on the right.

[Mace8937]

If you're forced to bribe yourself, you should get two votes, that can be used the same way.

LeftBox: Mace has voted against Trump
RightBox: Vote counter goes up with no notification

Achievements
The new Don: Win with Mafia
No town left to lead: Win with a Neutral Killer
Let's just go home: Win with ONLY A Survivor, or another NE
Pointless: Win by yourself
Remember to vote for me: Win alone WITH an Amnesiac who forgot to remember
NOPE: Bribe a Mayor to have him reveal and steal his vote back from you
It's a bloody business: Bribe a Vampire
Republican: Bribe a Godfather
Double Trouble- Bribe yourself
That's my job: Vote an Executioner, or Framer
Honest Politician: Don't bribe anyone and win
Cold War: Bribe a dead person [killed by nontown]
Success: Bribe a Town member that is lynched/killed by town some time after the bribe

That would be cool.
I'll implement it.
And thanks, I was hoping someone would help me with those

EDIT: What are the Right/Left boxes?

Look at the Witch and Transporter.

They have two target (other) boxes.

One is on the left, one on the right.

Oh, ok thanks.

[BPsycho2]

By the way,

back to achievements.

replace Honest Politician with Honest Abe.

Replace Remember to vote for me with remember to vote.

I know they were my ideas, just edited.