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Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:02 pm
by Kirize12
kakesh wrote:I love this. Fits into NE quite well I'd think. Don't think it should be night immune.

It doesn't. Only until it's attacked the first time.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:21 pm
by kakesh
Eh, I voted on your poll against the autovest. I'm really not a fan of the idea. The rest of it is fantastic. I love novel mechanics.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:23 pm
by BPsycho2
Should be NE Witch goal like it is now.

Vote stealing is too powerful

Unique, and screw vests. Immunity.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:57 pm
by simabean
BPsycho2 wrote:Should be NE Witch goal like it is now.

Vote stealing is too powerful

Unique, and screw vests. Immunity.

Stealing votes is interesting, and not too powerful. As the players shrink, the power increases. But stealing votes is a good power.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:22 am
by Mace8937
Removed scum autovest since it has been outvoted in the poll.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:18 pm
by Kirize12
Mace8937 wrote:Removed scum autovest since it has been outvoted in the poll.

But it needs some protection ;_;

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:46 pm
by simabean
Does a Witch need protection?

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:51 pm
by Kirize12
simabean wrote:Does a Witch need protection?

Yes.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:59 pm
by simabean
Kirize12 wrote:
simabean wrote:Does a Witch need protection?

Yes.

Correct answer: Witch is fine as is, and so is this role.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:00 pm
by Mace8937
I'm debating with my alter-ego, (The more logical one) with to listen to the poll or not. :?

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:01 pm
by simabean
Mace8937 wrote:I'm debating with my alter-ego, (The more logical one) with to listen to the poll or not. :?

You set it up, you should go with the majority. Otherwise the poll is meaningless.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:04 pm
by Kirize12
Every anti-NE role needs some sort of protection. Witch is paper-thin attack wise and giving it a scum autovest not only makes it more of a threat, since it can no longer be random killed, but boosts witch win rates which is needed. Witch is not fine as is, it needs a scum autovest and so does this.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:05 pm
by Kirize12
simabean wrote:
Mace8937 wrote:I'm debating with my alter-ego, (The more logical one) with to listen to the poll or not. :?

You set it up, you should go with the majority. Otherwise the poll is meaningless.

Screw the poll, trust in the kitten! (and balance)

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:09 pm
by simabean
Kirize12 wrote:
simabean wrote:
Mace8937 wrote:I'm debating with my alter-ego, (The more logical one) with to listen to the poll or not. :?

You set it up, you should go with the majority. Otherwise the poll is meaningless.

Screw the poll, trust in the kitten! (and balance)

Yeah, balance, by listening to the poll, and trusting the Werewolf instead.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:16 pm
by BPsycho2
Forget what I said earlier.

I'm turning over a new leaf.

Both the Witch, and Politician need autovests, but don't make them "Scum Autovests"

Just write this on the Vigilante "You can immune pierce the Witch, and the Politician"

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:40 pm
by Mace8937
BPsycho2 wrote:Forget what I said earlier.

I'm turning over a new leaf.

Both the Witch, and Politician need autovests, but don't make them "Scum Autovests"

Just write this on the Vigilante "You can immune pierce the Witch, and the Politician"


Wouldn't that be the same thing as a Scum Autovest? It can still be pierced by town, but not by scum? (But WW still does)

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:46 pm
by BPsycho2
Yes, it is the EXACT same thing, but there's no reason to have to code the Classist Vest when you can just give them one unit of Automatic Versatile Evasion Super Technology (Auto V.E.S.T)

Just give it to them, and buff the Vig to pierce.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:04 pm
by Mace8937
BPsycho2 wrote:Yes, it is the EXACT same thing, but there's no reason to have to code the Classist Vest when you can just give them one unit of Automatic Versatile Evasion Super Technology (Auto V.E.S.T)

Just give it to them, and buff the Vig to pierce.


I guess that seems fine, but should I include that only Vig and WW can pierce it in Attributes?

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:08 pm
by BPsycho2
Definitely.

Don't forget the Arsonist.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:10 pm
by Mace8937
BPsycho2 wrote:Definitely.

Don't forget the Arsonist.


:roll: Can't forget that.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:14 pm
by BPsycho2
No, Sir/Ma'am.


I'm just a bit worried that vote stealing takes away from scumreading.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:21 pm
by Mace8937
BPsycho2 wrote:No, Sir/Ma'am.


I'm just a bit worried that vote stealing takes away from scumreading.


I'm a guy.

it's up to the player to be able to scumread.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:23 pm
by Kirize12
Don't let Arsonist pierce Witch/Politician autovests!

Listen, here is the difference between regular autovests and scum autovests:
Regulars cannot be pierced by vigilantes, but can be pierced by Arsonist's and roles that pierce night immunity.
Scum autovests cannot be pierced by any role unless they are town.

It's clear which one is more effective for anti-town NE's.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:24 pm
by Mace8937
Kirize12 wrote:Don't let Arsonist pierce Witch/Politician autovests!

Listen, here is the difference between regular autovests and scum autovests:
Regulars cannot be pierced by vigilantes, but can be pierced by Arsonist's and roles that pierce night immunity.
Scum autovests cannot be pierced by any role unless they are town.

It's clear which one is more effective for anti-town NE's.


I guess that makes sense.

Re: Politician (Neutral Evil) New Poll!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:25 pm
by simabean
If you want an auto-vest, just make it a normal one, like the BG/Survivor one, which is pierced by WW and Arso, since it's night immunity.