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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:50 pm
by BPsycho2
Looks good.

Night Immunity, Packs up and leaves town after goal complete. Money is made. Win.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:10 pm
by DankaldTrump
BPsycho2 wrote:Looks good.

Night Immunity, Packs up and leaves town after goal complete. Money is made. Win.


Thank you for your support! I am very glad you like it! :D

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:38 pm
by oliy
Okay, I came back to this after commenting earlier.
Here are some suggestions I'm making:
-Change the color - It looks extremely similar to Witch and my Gravedigger
-Fix some of the grammatical mistakes, such as "If you buried"
-Change "After your goal is met, you will leave the town" to "After you meet your goal, you will commit suicide"

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:45 pm
by Technetium
I like this idea. It's truly Benign and doesn't have to take a side to win.

But keep 6 Feet Under as requiring 6 wins.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:32 pm
by DankaldTrump
oliy wrote:Okay, I came back to this after commenting earlier.
Here are some suggestions I'm making:
-Change the color - It looks extremely similar to Witch and my Gravedigger
-Fix some of the grammatical mistakes, such as "If you buried"
-Change "After your goal is met, you will leave the town" to "After you meet your goal, you will commit suicide"


1. I think the color is fine as it stands, if the devs put this in the game, (which I hope they do) and don't like the color, they can change it, the issue of color is not important honestly.

2. Mistakes happen, I will go over the OP and fix any I see.

3. Nah, it's the same thing mechanics-wise ( except for no last will, but a U.T doesn't really need to keep one) and it winds down to the same thing. I envisioned the UT to not be one that is suicidal, but rather just slightly depressed and just needs to get away from normal life.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:34 pm
by DankaldTrump
Technetium wrote:I like this idea. It's truly Benign and doesn't have to take a side to win.

But keep 6 Feet Under as requiring 6 wins.


I am glad you see this role the way I do :D

And while I like the idea of six games, people did make a point that it is inconsistent.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:29 pm
by TehLonelyNinja
If the Undertaker were to fail to bury someone due to Doc or BG, would that drain his burial charges? Or would it be like SC2 mafia and not deplete?

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:37 pm
by DankaldTrump
TehLonelyNinja wrote:If the Undertaker were to fail to bury someone due to Doc or BG, would that drain his burial charges? Or would it be like SC2 mafia and not deplete?


You have unlimited chances. Your main worry as a UT will be simply not completing your goal in time with getting lynched second.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:25 pm
by oliy
DankaldTrump wrote:
oliy wrote:Okay, I came back to this after commenting earlier.
Here are some suggestions I'm making:
-Change the color - It looks extremely similar to Witch and my Gravedigger
-Fix some of the grammatical mistakes, such as "If you buried"
-Change "After your goal is met, you will leave the town" to "After you meet your goal, you will commit suicide"


1. I think the color is fine as it stands, if the devs put this in the game, (which I hope they do) and don't like the color, they can change it, the issue of color is not important honestly.

2. Mistakes happen, I will go over the OP and fix any I see.

3. Nah, it's the same thing mechanics-wise ( except for no last will, but a U.T doesn't really need to keep one) and it winds down to the same thing. I envisioned the UT to not be one that is suicidal, but rather just slightly depressed and just needs to get away from normal life.

1) NO COLOR IS A BIG ISSUE IT'S WHAT IT'S SEEN AS ;_;
2) Ok
3) What you have will leave the players in question as to what it means, or at least some, so simplify it to something all players can understand.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:30 am
by DankaldTrump
oliy wrote:
DankaldTrump wrote:
oliy wrote:Okay, I came back to this after commenting earlier.
Here are some suggestions I'm making:
-Change the color - It looks extremely similar to Witch and my Gravedigger
-Fix some of the grammatical mistakes, such as "If you buried"
-Change "After your goal is met, you will leave the town" to "After you meet your goal, you will commit suicide"


1. I think the color is fine as it stands, if the devs put this in the game, (which I hope they do) and don't like the color, they can change it, the issue of color is not important honestly.

2. Mistakes happen, I will go over the OP and fix any I see.

3. Nah, it's the same thing mechanics-wise ( except for no last will, but a U.T doesn't really need to keep one) and it winds down to the same thing. I envisioned the UT to not be one that is suicidal, but rather just slightly depressed and just needs to get away from normal life.

1) NO COLOR IS A BIG ISSUE IT'S WHAT IT'S SEEN AS ;_;
2) Ok
3) What you have will leave the players in question as to what it means, or at least some, so simplify it to something all players can understand.


1. I said it once, I'll say it again, if the devs put this in the game and want to change the color, then by all means they can do so.

2. There, I took care of all mistakes that I saw.

3. It's literally saying you will leave the town the night of completing the goal , or the night after if you achieved the goal through a lynch, and if you still don't understand what I mean, then I have an explanation in parentheses under the attribute. What is there not to understand??

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:51 am
by DankaldTrump
Kirize12 wrote:I still support this role.


That's very good to know, thank you.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:53 am
by Technetium
Kirize12 wrote:I still support this role.

I like it still as well.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:01 pm
by oliy
Kirize12 wrote:I still support this role.

Me too.

Still the color should be changed, it's like having a role the same color as Jester, is that what the role will really be seen as?
It would just make players understand it easier, so they don't get confused.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:35 pm
by DankaldTrump
oliy wrote:Me too.

Still the color should be changed, it's like having a role the same color as Jester, is that what the role will really be seen as?
It would just make players understand it easier, so they don't get confused.


Well in that case, you better be an advocate for changing the color of vampire or executioner as those 2 roles colors are similar. But seriously, I don't hear anyone complaining about the color of those 2 roles. Also, I will say it one more time Oliy, if the devs put this in the game and want to change the color, that's fine.

But other then that, I am happy you and others support this role so much, it means a lot.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:33 pm
by oliy
This and Witch don't have as much variety as EXE and Vampire, and yes, people have made suggestions to change Vampire, so this is my suggestion color just for recognition in role ideas. Yes, it is black. No role is black, its simple, different, could be argued for dirt and gravestone color, and it would work.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:47 pm
by DankaldTrump
oliy wrote:This and Witch don't have as much variety as EXE and Vampire, and yes, people have made suggestions to change Vampire, so this is my suggestion color just for recognition in role ideas. Yes, it is black. No role is black, its simple, different, could be argued for dirt and gravestone color, and it would work.


You sir, are giving me the hardest time about this. :roll:

I'll tell you what, if others motion to have the color changed (if you suggest changing, you must provide a sample text in the color for which you want it to be) I will consider it.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:26 pm
by Izzip
Cool role. Seems challenging, but since when is that bad? ;p

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:49 pm
by oliy
Kirize12 wrote:The color is fine. Oliy, stop.

It's the same color as Witch, or at least fairly similar. I also don't want my Gravedigger color to get stolen as it's considered a good role.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:09 pm
by DankaldTrump
oliy wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:The color is fine. Oliy, stop.

It's the same color as Witch, or at least fairly similar. I also don't want my Gravedigger color to get stolen as it's considered a good role.


The Witch's color is a lavender/light purple, the Undertaker's is a dark purple there is a clear difference between the 2.

OK seriously, I am not copying/stealing your Gravedigger, just by having a similar color, that's like saying a SUV and a convertible are the same car, just because they are both red. Like seriously, if deciding whether to put a role into a game or not comes down to color, we got problems! :roll:

I decided I am not changing the color. Only the devs can change it if they choose to put it in the game.

Now then, can we start talking about the mechanics of the role itself please? Thanks :D

P.S: Not trying to tick you off Oliy, just saying.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:10 pm
by DankaldTrump
Izzip wrote:Cool role. Seems challenging, but since when is that bad? ;p


Thanks, I am glad you feel that way :D

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:17 pm
by oliy
Don't worry, I know :P

I get overly defensive about my roles, and Gravedigger is one of my best, and it has a chance of making it into some FM game, where Stalker is already Black. I can't think of other colors of roles I used to replace it it without being too similar, and Kamikaze likely won't go anywhere.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:19 pm
by Technetium
oliy wrote:Don't worry, I know :P

I get overly defensive about my roles, and Gravedigger is one of my best, and it has a chance of making it into some FM game, where Stalker is already Black. I can't think of other colors of roles I used to replace it it without being too similar, and Kamikaze likely won't go anywhere.

You could say the Kamikaze idea...8-)...crashed.
*CSI theme plays*

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:25 pm
by DankaldTrump
oliy wrote:Don't worry, I know :P

I get overly defensive about my roles, and Gravedigger is one of my best, and it has a chance of making it into some FM game, where Stalker is already Black. I can't think of other colors of roles I used to replace it it without being too similar, and Kamikaze likely won't go anywhere.


Hey you got to remember, Undertaker was my first ( first post ever) and basically only role I created (Boxer is not to be acknowledged here) it's hard making roles that are actually good, which is why I haven't come out with any new ones lately.

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:26 pm
by DankaldTrump
Technetium wrote:
oliy wrote:Don't worry, I know :P

I get overly defensive about my roles, and Gravedigger is one of my best, and it has a chance of making it into some FM game, where Stalker is already Black. I can't think of other colors of roles I used to replace it it without being too similar, and Kamikaze likely won't go anywhere.

You could say the Kamikaze idea...crashed.
*CSI theme plays*


Oh gosh, please don't........

P.S: you forgot this important emote in your post: 8-)

Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:28 pm
by Technetium
DankaldTrump wrote:Oh gosh, please don't........

Too late...