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Make the goal a little easier.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:20 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
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Kirize12 wrote:It needs to be five games, not six. Please fix.


I changed it back, but why are you and others so against the six games requirement? It fits the name perfectly. :|

Consistency.


I get that, but still........ :|
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby MrNSAagent » Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:54 pm

DankaldTrump wrote:
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DankaldTrump wrote:
I changed it back, but why are you and others so against the six games requirement? It fits the name perfectly. :|

Consistency.


I get that, but still........ :|

Yeah, while the the six-game thing fits (not to mention clever :) ), It would be A) easier to get and B) consistent with the rest of the game.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby BPsycho2 » Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:50 pm

Looks good.

Night Immunity, Packs up and leaves town after goal complete. Money is made. Win.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:10 pm

BPsycho2 wrote:Looks good.

Night Immunity, Packs up and leaves town after goal complete. Money is made. Win.


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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby oliy » Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:38 pm

Okay, I came back to this after commenting earlier.
Here are some suggestions I'm making:
-Change the color - It looks extremely similar to Witch and my Gravedigger
-Fix some of the grammatical mistakes, such as "If you buried"
-Change "After your goal is met, you will leave the town" to "After you meet your goal, you will commit suicide"

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby Technetium » Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:45 pm

I like this idea. It's truly Benign and doesn't have to take a side to win.

But keep 6 Feet Under as requiring 6 wins.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby Kirize12 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:59 pm

Technetium wrote:I like this idea. It's truly Benign and doesn't have to take a side to win.

But keep 6 Feet Under as requiring 6 wins.

...
He can't.
It's literally impossible.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:32 pm

oliy wrote:Okay, I came back to this after commenting earlier.
Here are some suggestions I'm making:
-Change the color - It looks extremely similar to Witch and my Gravedigger
-Fix some of the grammatical mistakes, such as "If you buried"
-Change "After your goal is met, you will leave the town" to "After you meet your goal, you will commit suicide"


1. I think the color is fine as it stands, if the devs put this in the game, (which I hope they do) and don't like the color, they can change it, the issue of color is not important honestly.

2. Mistakes happen, I will go over the OP and fix any I see.

3. Nah, it's the same thing mechanics-wise ( except for no last will, but a U.T doesn't really need to keep one) and it winds down to the same thing. I envisioned the UT to not be one that is suicidal, but rather just slightly depressed and just needs to get away from normal life.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:34 pm

Technetium wrote:I like this idea. It's truly Benign and doesn't have to take a side to win.

But keep 6 Feet Under as requiring 6 wins.


I am glad you see this role the way I do :D

And while I like the idea of six games, people did make a point that it is inconsistent.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby TehLonelyNinja » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:29 pm

If the Undertaker were to fail to bury someone due to Doc or BG, would that drain his burial charges? Or would it be like SC2 mafia and not deplete?
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:37 pm

TehLonelyNinja wrote:If the Undertaker were to fail to bury someone due to Doc or BG, would that drain his burial charges? Or would it be like SC2 mafia and not deplete?


You have unlimited chances. Your main worry as a UT will be simply not completing your goal in time with getting lynched second.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby oliy » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:25 pm

DankaldTrump wrote:
oliy wrote:Okay, I came back to this after commenting earlier.
Here are some suggestions I'm making:
-Change the color - It looks extremely similar to Witch and my Gravedigger
-Fix some of the grammatical mistakes, such as "If you buried"
-Change "After your goal is met, you will leave the town" to "After you meet your goal, you will commit suicide"


1. I think the color is fine as it stands, if the devs put this in the game, (which I hope they do) and don't like the color, they can change it, the issue of color is not important honestly.

2. Mistakes happen, I will go over the OP and fix any I see.

3. Nah, it's the same thing mechanics-wise ( except for no last will, but a U.T doesn't really need to keep one) and it winds down to the same thing. I envisioned the UT to not be one that is suicidal, but rather just slightly depressed and just needs to get away from normal life.

1) NO COLOR IS A BIG ISSUE IT'S WHAT IT'S SEEN AS ;_;
2) Ok
3) What you have will leave the players in question as to what it means, or at least some, so simplify it to something all players can understand.

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:30 am

oliy wrote:
DankaldTrump wrote:
oliy wrote:Okay, I came back to this after commenting earlier.
Here are some suggestions I'm making:
-Change the color - It looks extremely similar to Witch and my Gravedigger
-Fix some of the grammatical mistakes, such as "If you buried"
-Change "After your goal is met, you will leave the town" to "After you meet your goal, you will commit suicide"


1. I think the color is fine as it stands, if the devs put this in the game, (which I hope they do) and don't like the color, they can change it, the issue of color is not important honestly.

2. Mistakes happen, I will go over the OP and fix any I see.

3. Nah, it's the same thing mechanics-wise ( except for no last will, but a U.T doesn't really need to keep one) and it winds down to the same thing. I envisioned the UT to not be one that is suicidal, but rather just slightly depressed and just needs to get away from normal life.

1) NO COLOR IS A BIG ISSUE IT'S WHAT IT'S SEEN AS ;_;
2) Ok
3) What you have will leave the players in question as to what it means, or at least some, so simplify it to something all players can understand.


1. I said it once, I'll say it again, if the devs put this in the game and want to change the color, then by all means they can do so.

2. There, I took care of all mistakes that I saw.

3. It's literally saying you will leave the town the night of completing the goal , or the night after if you achieved the goal through a lynch, and if you still don't understand what I mean, then I have an explanation in parentheses under the attribute. What is there not to understand??
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby Kirize12 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:32 am

I still support this role.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:51 am

Kirize12 wrote:I still support this role.


That's very good to know, thank you.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby Technetium » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:53 am

Kirize12 wrote:I still support this role.

I like it still as well.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby oliy » Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:01 pm

Kirize12 wrote:I still support this role.

Me too.

Still the color should be changed, it's like having a role the same color as Jester, is that what the role will really be seen as?
It would just make players understand it easier, so they don't get confused.

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:35 pm

oliy wrote:Me too.

Still the color should be changed, it's like having a role the same color as Jester, is that what the role will really be seen as?
It would just make players understand it easier, so they don't get confused.


Well in that case, you better be an advocate for changing the color of vampire or executioner as those 2 roles colors are similar. But seriously, I don't hear anyone complaining about the color of those 2 roles. Also, I will say it one more time Oliy, if the devs put this in the game and want to change the color, that's fine.

But other then that, I am happy you and others support this role so much, it means a lot.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby oliy » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:33 pm

This and Witch don't have as much variety as EXE and Vampire, and yes, people have made suggestions to change Vampire, so this is my suggestion color just for recognition in role ideas. Yes, it is black. No role is black, its simple, different, could be argued for dirt and gravestone color, and it would work.

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:47 pm

oliy wrote:This and Witch don't have as much variety as EXE and Vampire, and yes, people have made suggestions to change Vampire, so this is my suggestion color just for recognition in role ideas. Yes, it is black. No role is black, its simple, different, could be argued for dirt and gravestone color, and it would work.


You sir, are giving me the hardest time about this. :roll:

I'll tell you what, if others motion to have the color changed (if you suggest changing, you must provide a sample text in the color for which you want it to be) I will consider it.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby Kirize12 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:51 pm

The color is fine. Oliy, stop.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby Izzip » Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:26 pm

Cool role. Seems challenging, but since when is that bad? ;p
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby oliy » Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:49 pm

Kirize12 wrote:The color is fine. Oliy, stop.

It's the same color as Witch, or at least fairly similar. I also don't want my Gravedigger color to get stolen as it's considered a good role.

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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:09 pm

oliy wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:The color is fine. Oliy, stop.

It's the same color as Witch, or at least fairly similar. I also don't want my Gravedigger color to get stolen as it's considered a good role.


The Witch's color is a lavender/light purple, the Undertaker's is a dark purple there is a clear difference between the 2.

OK seriously, I am not copying/stealing your Gravedigger, just by having a similar color, that's like saying a SUV and a convertible are the same car, just because they are both red. Like seriously, if deciding whether to put a role into a game or not comes down to color, we got problems! :roll:

I decided I am not changing the color. Only the devs can change it if they choose to put it in the game.

Now then, can we start talking about the mechanics of the role itself please? Thanks :D

P.S: Not trying to tick you off Oliy, just saying.
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Re: Undertaker (Neutral Benign)

Postby DankaldTrump » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:10 pm

Izzip wrote:Cool role. Seems challenging, but since when is that bad? ;p


Thanks, I am glad you feel that way :D
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