Undertaker (Neutral Benign) (5000+ views!!)

[DankaldTrump]

I still think it should hear the dead. Just because it unconfirms the double media.

I respect your opinion, I really do, but that would have more drawbacks then advantages.

Also, thanks for 4K views everyone! I never believed that we would get a years worth of views within just 5 months. Amazing!

In addition, the next person to post will be the 200th poster on this thread! A big milestone!

Cheers!

[BPsycho2]

I think albeit the disadvantages being multiple, the positives outweigh them.

[DankaldTrump]

I'm just glad this thing is getting tested. It deserves it. :^)

Congrats Kirize, not only did you get a pageget, you also made the 200th reply on this thread!

Also, it seems we have reached 50 perfect votes in the pole! We are halfway there!

Finally, I am glad this is getting tested myself, the Undertaker has come so far.

I think albeit the disadvantages being multiple, the positives outweigh them.

But as the UT stands right now, it's fine, why change it?

[JazzMusicStops]

Congrats Kirize, not only did you get a pageget, you also made the 200th post on this thread!

*200th Reply

[DankaldTrump]

Congrats Kirize, not only did you get a pageget, you also made the 200th post on this thread!

*200th Reply

Petty details. Corrected.

[JazzMusicStops]

I voted perfect not just because I won as this in the TG, nope, not at all

[DankaldTrump]

I voted perfect not just because I won as this in the TG, nope, not at all

Suuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrreeeeeee

Also, your vote just put it at 70% I have been flirting with that number, but was never able to achieve it until now.

[ARMENIA2016]

It should affect the town and the Mafia. For example upon leaving the town it should kill someone of their choice so it has purpose to be killed by everyone who suspects you of being an undertaker. Otherwise nice idea and I WANT TO SEE IT ON ToS DESPERATELY!!!!!

[DankaldTrump]

It should affect the town and the Mafia. For example upon leaving the town it should kill someone of their choice so it has purpose to be killed by everyone who suspects you of being an undertaker. Otherwise nice idea and I WANT TO SEE IT ON ToS DESPERATELY!!!!!

I never really explained it this way.

Undertaker's goal is difficult, so when you get Undertaker, it's almost as if you have your own mini-game that is separate from the town, however, you have the power to manipulate and control the attitude of the town to achieve your goal, its pretty fun.

Also, Undertaker wants to bury 3 people to win, it can include town members, so this could be enough.

But what I'll most likely do, is change the invest results to make the UT seem more sus after 1.5 when the results will be changed.
Also, UT is immune, if it is ratted out, then possibly gg for Undertaker.

[terrerman]

Hi
I love this idea. Something with trying to guess who will die that night/day or even working with killing roles to bury people.
I think this could be like the Exe: no need to kill them and they may help you if you help them
Just an idea. I get the fact the undertaker leaves the town but i would give the choice to leave each night so the undertaker (who already won by burying the bodies) could act as an extra vote to help the team that helped them like mafia
/support
-Terrer
Edit: As jammy pointed out this does make the undertaker a kingmaker so don't pay attention to my idea

[JazzMusicStops]

Hi
I love this idea. Something with trying to guess who will die that night/day or even working with killing roles to bury people.
I think this could be like the Exe: no need to kill them and they may help you if you help them
Just an idea. I get the fact the undertaker leaves the town but i would give the choice to leave each night so the undertaker (who already won by burying the bodies) could act as an extra vote to help the team that helped them like mafia
/support
-Terrer

Kingmakers shouldn't be encouraged

[DrKiwi353]

With three burials required it relies on too much luck since I doubt the average player would be able to guess three deaths accurately in a single game.

[JazzMusicStops]

With three burials required it relies on too much luck since I doubt the average player would be able to guess three deaths accurately in a single game.

Not luck, skill

[terrerman]

Hi
I love this idea. Something with trying to guess who will die that night/day or even working with killing roles to bury people.
I think this could be like the Exe: no need to kill them and they may help you if you help them
Just an idea. I get the fact the undertaker leaves the town but i would give the choice to leave each night so the undertaker (who already won by burying the bodies) could act as an extra vote to help the team that helped them like mafia
/support
-Terrer

Kingmakers shouldn't be encouraged

Yeah your right
Just a thought

[Jerme]

The Undertaker is also able to push for a lynch of their target. This was how the Undertaker has archieved their victory in the TG's testing session.

[JazzMusicStops]

The Undertaker is also able to push for a lynch of their target. This was how the Undertaker has archieved their victory in the TG's testing session.

[DankaldTrump]

With three burials required it relies on too much luck since I doubt the average player would be able to guess three deaths accurately in a single game.

Not luck, skill

^
You need to play with skill, and make reads, and potentially be a good manipulator to win with the Undertaker, this is one of the major points of the UT.

No offense, but if you think this is just entirely luck based, then you are just being lazy IMO.

So with this said, I highly recommend that you reconsider your stance on the UT.

[Gildedhedgehog]

In my opinion, being able to only have to bury 3 people seems a but easy to me. I feel like it needs to be a bit higher. But that's just me

[Migzypoo]

This role has my name written all over it! I love it.

I have a knack for figuring out which roles die which nights. I'd say it's almost an easy win for me. So yeah, the number of people buried would need to be tested to find a good balanced number.
Part of me wishes it would still have somewhat of an influence towards town.

I'd almost suggest the undertaker to be allowed to "visit" the town for just 1 day to relay the messages from the dead or something. Without the option to vote as you relinquished your citizenship when you left town.
it'd be even more hilarious if you could still be lynched the day you come back, talk about a useless lynch... XD possibly for an achievement?

[JazzMusicStops]

I think this role would be a little too hard to play as. How would you know who to bury? It seems like it would be that role that people game throw as because they don't want to play as it.
But other than that, its a great idea!

Gamethrowers should never be taken into account when designing a role

[Jerme]

I think this role would be a little too hard to play as. How would you know who to bury? It seems like it would be that role that people game throw as because they don't want to play as it.
But other than that, its a great idea!

Tell me, how can the Undertaker gamethrow?
It is a Neutral Benign role, so there have no team which could be ratted out and none it aligns with. As the Undertaker you need to do readings and can still get your burial, if the chosen person is lynched the day after. This role requires reading or the ability to be persuasive to archieve their goal.

[DankaldTrump]

I think this role would be a little too hard to play as. How would you know who to bury? It seems like it would be that role that people game throw as because they don't want to play as it.
But other than that, its a great idea!

Your just being lazy tbh, if you put in effort, it is certainly possible to win as (just ask people in the TG )

Gamethrowers are scumbags, I don't care for them, and as jammy said, you never let trolls get in the way of designing a role.

In my opinion, being able to only have to bury 3 people seems a but easy to me. I feel like it needs to be a bit higher. But that's just me

Not sure if a troll, or just being kinda dumb tbh.

This role has my name written all over it! I love it.

I have a knack for figuring out which roles die which nights. I'd say it's almost an easy win for me. So yeah, the number of people buried would need to be tested to find a good balanced number.
Part of me wishes it would still have somewhat of an influence towards town.

I'd almost suggest the undertaker to be allowed to "visit" the town for just 1 day to relay the messages from the dead or something. Without the option to vote as you relinquished your citizenship when you left town.
it'd be even more hilarious if you could still be lynched the day you come back, talk about a useless lynch... XD possibly for an achievement?

Lol, thanks for your support, you're too funny.

[BPsycho2]

I think this role would be a little too hard to play as. How would you know who to bury? It seems like it would be that role that people game throw as because they don't want to play as it.
But other than that, its a great idea!

Your just being lazy tbh, if you put in effort, it is certainly possible to win as (just ask people in the TG )
Yeah. Only reason the Undertaker lost (which was once or twice out of a lot) in our tests was because there was little to no room for error in a small game. I'll readdress this.
Gamethrowers are scumbags, I don't care for them, and as jammy said, you never let trolls get in the way of designing a role.

In my opinion, being able to only have to bury 3 people seems a but easy to me. I feel like it needs to be a bit higher. But that's just me

Not sure if a troll, or just being kinda dumb tbh.
Doctors only usually get 2 successful heals in a game. You play UT kind of like a Doctor. UT is fine where it is, even a little on the freakishly hard side, BUT it's definitely doable.

Can the goal be changed to reflect the amount of people?

Like if it's 3 people ingame, it wouldnt spawn

7 People, 1/2 kills

10+= 3 or something
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This role has my name written all over it! I love it.

I have a knack for figuring out which roles die which nights. I'd say it's almost an easy win for me. So yeah, the number of people buried would need to be tested to find a good balanced number.
Yes.
Part of me wishes it would still have somewhat of an influence towards town.

I'd almost suggest the undertaker to be allowed to "visit" the town for just 1 day to relay the messages from the dead or something. Without the option to vote as you relinquished your citizenship when you left town.
it'd be even more hilarious if you could still be lynched the day you come back, talk about a useless lynch... XD possibly for an achievement?

Lol, thanks for your support, you're too funny.

Well, Migzy, practice your skill. Never know when that might come in handy. Ahem, BMG.

[AlJalone]

I like the idea of it, but what effect does it have on town? In all honesty, it just sounds like another random role. Like how does it affect town or mafia or other roles. I was thinking maybe like once you bury someone, you can't revive them or see their will. Give info on the effects of the role, but other than that I like the idea of it

[JazzMusicStops]

I like the idea of it, but what effect does it have on town?

None because it's Neutral Benign