Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

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How do you like this role?

I really, really like it and I would like to see it added into ToS
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69%
It could use some work/I have some ideas (Please tell me why or what your ideas are)
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Maybe/ I don't know (explain why)
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I don't like it (Why?)
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I wouldn't see it in ToS.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Totes » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:06 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:plese tell me how I can improve this role

Is good as is
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:25 am

Thx totes
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Totes » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:57 am

No problem. Credit where credit is due.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:52 am

What do you guys think of this role? Be sure to cast your votes in the poll!
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby theo07 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:06 am

I like this role!Great job,it's pretty balanced.Has it been to Testing grounds?

Also,could you please stop multiposting ?Try to merge your posts,since I saw 4 posts one after another made by you. Oh,and try to be a little bit more chill.Don't keep asking people about the pool or why it'sbad.

Other than that.great job.One of the best mafia roles from the forum.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:37 am

Ya sorry, thx though. Also what do you mean by "the pool"
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby theo07 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:41 am

Arpitr20 wrote:Ya sorry, thx though. Also what do you mean by "the pool"



Oh,sorry.I was thinking of someone else.My wrong.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby theo07 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:42 am

theo07 wrote:
Arpitr20 wrote:Ya sorry, thx though. Also what do you mean by "the pool"



Oh,sorry.I was thinking of someone else.My wrong about the pool thing.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:26 pm

i request feedback for my role
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby EmeraldSpashu » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:30 pm

Overall good.
You should try and get this on the Testing Grounds so it can be tested.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:38 pm

im trying, and thanks for the feedback
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby murat1996 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:39 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:im trying, and thanks for the feedback


Yep, you should send it to Kiyosen to get it tested.

Also the Role isn't that bad.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby KirbyRider1337 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:49 pm

murat1996 wrote:
Arpitr20 wrote:im trying, and thanks for the feedback


Yep, you should send it to Kiyosen to get it tested.

Also the Role isn't that bad.

The Caporegime Mafia Killing thingy could wind up confusing for me, though.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:59 pm

KirbyRider1337 wrote:
murat1996 wrote:
Arpitr20 wrote:im trying, and thanks for the feedback


Yep, you should send it to Kiyosen to get it tested.

Also the Role isn't that bad.

The Caporegime Mafia Killing thingy could wind up confusing for me, though.

what caporegime mafia killing thing?
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Skulldug13 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:46 pm

CONFIRMED BODYGAURD PROTECTING MAYOR!
THIS IS OP destroying all defense for the mayor or another Role
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:01 pm

ok first, the bg shouldnt be confirmed, and the mafia would just end up killing the bodyguard, so yeah... if maf know who the bodyguard is theyd kill him anyway.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby KirbyRider1337 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:07 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:ok first, the bg shouldnt be confirmed, and the mafia would just end up killing the bodyguard, so yeah... if maf know who the bodyguard is theyd kill him anyway.

They'd probably nightmare the BG then kill him if only one TP is alive and there are no Lookouts alive. After all, a BG is high-priority, but not as much as a Mayor, though that changes if both are alive... Even then, the Mafia might only know who the BG is if they have a Consig or if the BG in question is exposed in the will of an Invest.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Kirize12 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:10 pm

Skulldug13 wrote:CONFIRMED BODYGAURD PROTECTING MAYOR!
THIS IS OP destroying all defense for the mayor or another Role


That's a good thing. It limits reveals, which is needed.

Skulldug, I recomend leaving the forums until you play at least 10 Ranked games, then kindly return and be better at balance for it.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

This matters - educate yourself.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:48 pm

what Kirize said 8)
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Totes » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:55 am

Kirize12 wrote:
Skulldug13 wrote:CONFIRMED BODYGAURD PROTECTING MAYOR!
THIS IS OP destroying all defense for the mayor or another Role


That's a good thing. It limits reveals, which is needed.

Skulldug, I recomend leaving the forums until you play at least 10 Ranked games, then kindly return and be better at balance for it.

This. Not just for Skulldug, but for everyone on the forum who hasn't played ranked this much. Their frankly annoying because they don't understand balance whatsoever.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby theo07 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:03 am

Totes wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
Skulldug13 wrote:CONFIRMED BODYGAURD PROTECTING MAYOR!
THIS IS OP destroying all defense for the mayor or another Role


That's a good thing. It limits reveals, which is needed.

Skulldug, I recomend leaving the forums until you play at least 10 Ranked games, then kindly return and be better at balance for it.

This. Not just for Skulldug, but for everyone on the forum who hasn't played ranked this much. Their frankly annoying because they don't understand balance whatsoever.



Yup,playing ranked games helps you understand the balance better.Also,this really should go to Tg.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby ChamAlien » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:14 am

Consort
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby theo07 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:30 am

ChamAlien wrote:Consort



It's not really a Consort.You can make multiple people unable to visit someone else.I understand that there are is a similarity,but you can't call it a Consort.It requires different strategies and adds another layer to the game.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:39 am

ChamAlien wrote:Consort

thank you 007. Also, consorts prevent a person from doing their night action, but this prevents someone from doing their night action to one specific person.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby theo07 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:01 am

Arpitr20 wrote:
ChamAlien wrote:Consort

thank you 007. Also, consorts prevent a person from doing their night action, but this prevents someone from doing their night action to one specific person.



Yeah,that's the similarity,that they get to stop somebody from doing their action.
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