Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

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How do you like this role?

I really, really like it and I would like to see it added into ToS
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It could use some work/I have some ideas (Please tell me why or what your ideas are)
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Maybe/ I don't know (explain why)
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I don't like it (Why?)
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I wouldn't see it in ToS.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby KirbyRider1337 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:03 pm

Remember that post about role backstory requests? The guy running it responded to your thing with this:

'The most powerful part of a person's mind is their subconsciousness. It is the part of a human's thoughts and feelings that works from behind the curtains, but at the same time can completely shape their attitudes, behaviour and opinion. It is said that dreams are manifestations of the subconsciousness, hidden dreams and fears from deep within your heart. The Nightmarer is a psychic manipulator of the subconsciousness, able to bring forth harrowing visions to haunt his victims in their sleep. He had first learned of this power when he was a small child. His parents were religious, and they had often visited the church to pray and congregate with other believers. However, the priest that held the sermons was corrupt and perverted, and he had abused the Nightmarer to satisfy his sick lust. The boy was too afraid to tell anyone and suffered in silence. However, one day the priest did not take him away for private councelling. In fact, he seemed to avoid him. When the boy sneaked away from his parents to follow the priest, he heard him talk to himself about a nightmare that he had the night before. In the dream, his acts have been uncovered and he had been lynched for his crimes. The Nightmarer gulped heavily, not quite believing that it was him. However, when his family was coming back from the shop they chanced upon the baker hitting his wife again. The Nightmarer gritted his teeth, and decided to test out his power again. He went to sleep that night wishing visions of the baker's wife deserting him, and taking the children. The next day, that same baker had been found hanging from a piece of rope in the city square. He committed suicide, and in his hands was a document about how he was sorry he had mistreated his wife, outlining the nightmares he had about deserting her. The Nightmarer gulped heavily, unbelieving. His parents asked him what's wrong. He tried to avoid an answer, but in the end ended up telling everyone about his powers. They waved him off as a silly child with an imagination too big. However, he insisted in trying to convince them, but they all shunned him. In the end, even his parents decided to cast him out for his tall tales. Bitter and angry, the Nightmarer turned to the Mafia for shelter. The Godfather swayed him over with tales of how noone believed the Nightmarer but him. The Nightmarer accepted the Godfather's proposal, determined to prove to everyone that he was the master of the subconscious mind."
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Kirize12 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:06 pm

KirbyRider1337 wrote:Remember that post about role backstory requests? The guy running it responded to your thing with this:

'The most powerful part of a person's mind is their subconsciousness. It is the part of a human's thoughts and feelings that works from behind the curtains, but at the same time can completely shape their attitudes, behaviour and opinion. It is said that dreams are manifestations of the subconsciousness, hidden dreams and fears from deep within your heart. The Nightmarer is a psychic manipulator of the subconsciousness, able to bring forth harrowing visions to haunt his victims in their sleep. He had first learned of this power when he was a small child. His parents were religious, and they had often visited the church to pray and congregate with other believers. However, the priest that held the sermons was corrupt and perverted, and he had abused the Nightmarer to satisfy his sick lust. The boy was too afraid to tell anyone and suffered in silence. However, one day the priest did not take him away for private councelling. In fact, he seemed to avoid him. When the boy sneaked away from his parents to follow the priest, he heard him talk to himself about a nightmare that he had the night before. In the dream, his acts have been uncovered and he had been lynched for his crimes. The Nightmarer gulped heavily, not quite believing that it was him. However, when his family was coming back from the shop they chanced upon the baker hitting his wife again. The Nightmarer gritted his teeth, and decided to test out his power again. He went to sleep that night wishing visions of the baker's wife deserting him, and taking the children. The next day, that same baker had been found hanging from a piece of rope in the city square. He committed suicide, and in his hands was a document about how he was sorry he had mistreated his wife, outlining the nightmares he had about deserting her. The Nightmarer gulped heavily, unbelieving. His parents asked him what's wrong. He tried to avoid an answer, but in the end ended up telling everyone about his powers. They waved him off as a silly child with an imagination too big. However, he insisted in trying to convince them, but they all shunned him. In the end, even his parents decided to cast him out for his tall tales. Bitter and angry, the Nightmarer turned to the Mafia for shelter. The Godfather swayed him over with tales of how noone believed the Nightmarer but him. The Nightmarer accepted the Godfather's proposal, determined to prove to everyone that he was the master of the subconscious mind."


I'd use that one instead of mine, simply because I haven't even gotten started due to family emergencies.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:03 pm

Thx I was about to check that myself
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:57 pm

thx ross!
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:43 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
KirbyRider1337 wrote:Remember that post about role backstory requests? The guy running it responded to your thing with this:

'The most powerful part of a person's mind is their subconsciousness. It is the part of a human's thoughts and feelings that works from behind the curtains, but at the same time can completely shape their attitudes, behaviour and opinion. It is said that dreams are manifestations of the subconsciousness, hidden dreams and fears from deep within your heart. The Nightmarer is a psychic manipulator of the subconsciousness, able to bring forth harrowing visions to haunt his victims in their sleep. He had first learned of this power when he was a small child. His parents were religious, and they had often visited the church to pray and congregate with other believers. However, the priest that held the sermons was corrupt and perverted, and he had abused the Nightmarer to satisfy his sick lust. The boy was too afraid to tell anyone and suffered in silence. However, one day the priest did not take him away for private councelling. In fact, he seemed to avoid him. When the boy sneaked away from his parents to follow the priest, he heard him talk to himself about a nightmare that he had the night before. In the dream, his acts have been uncovered and he had been lynched for his crimes. The Nightmarer gulped heavily, not quite believing that it was him. However, when his family was coming back from the shop they chanced upon the baker hitting his wife again. The Nightmarer gritted his teeth, and decided to test out his power again. He went to sleep that night wishing visions of the baker's wife deserting him, and taking the children. The next day, that same baker had been found hanging from a piece of rope in the city square. He committed suicide, and in his hands was a document about how he was sorry he had mistreated his wife, outlining the nightmares he had about deserting her. The Nightmarer gulped heavily, unbelieving. His parents asked him what's wrong. He tried to avoid an answer, but in the end ended up telling everyone about his powers. They waved him off as a silly child with an imagination too big. However, he insisted in trying to convince them, but they all shunned him. In the end, even his parents decided to cast him out for his tall tales. Bitter and angry, the Nightmarer turned to the Mafia for shelter. The Godfather swayed him over with tales of how noone believed the Nightmarer but him. The Nightmarer accepted the Godfather's proposal, determined to prove to everyone that he was the master of the subconscious mind."


I'd use that one instead of mine, simply because I haven't even gotten started due to family emergencies.


Thx kirize, I'm srry for the amount of bad things that r happening to you. Maybe its all a nightmare?
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:40 pm

Hey was it Mr. Bones who wrote the story or rossendale?
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby oliy » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:40 pm

oliy wrote:Name idea: Mara

Anyways, make the technicalities and attributes one list that players would understand. Put the basics in a list for attributes, and specifics for each role in a "notes" section. Maybe give a separate example.
After it becomes a bit more user-friendly through editing the format, then you'll have my 100% vote.

Also put it in bullet format.

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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby cmitc1 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:48 pm

this seems to a different consort?
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:21 am

cmitc1 wrote:this seems to a different consort?

This is nothing like a consort. The person who is nightmares is not rbed at ALL. They simply can't visit the person who they are nightmared about, and the person will not be allowed to visit them (therefore not thing them if they do) the button won't appear next to that persons name.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby EmeraldSpashu » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:00 pm

Alright. I like the idea, but it seems a tad overpowered, But not in the game breaking sense. I think you should only be able to do 3 Nightmares and they go away each change in nightmares, or after the Nightmarers death/promotion. Like how Janitor only gets 3 Cleans, I think this should only have 3 Nightmares. It would promote strategic use of the nightmares and not just willy-nilly nightmare every night. Like how 3 Cleans on Janitor promotes using those strategically and not just cleaning every single body.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:03 pm

It does go away after the death, and how is it owerpowered. A single person can only be nightmared about one person.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:24 pm

It is overpowered. I mean, no need to change it, but example here:
Torment invest about GF.

Boom. Maf will pretty much win unless there is a lucky lookout. However, I am fully behind this role. My verdict is:
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:27 am

ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:It is overpowered. I mean, no need to change it, but example here:
Torment invest about GF.

Boom. Maf will pretty much win unless there is a lucky lookout. However, I am fully behind this role. My verdict is:
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The point is, the investigator knows he is nightmared about the gf, so the gf gets laced under list of suspicions. You have to know who the investigator is too...
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Jerme » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:43 am

I like the role. It has a unique and good concept. As alway I have a couple of things to say.
- What happens if a Witch commands someone to visit the one they have nightmares about?
- What do you think towards this: "You notice that your nightmares were only an illusion [created by the Mafia]. You do not fear <name> anymore!"?
- Another quote: "After you woke up from a nightmare, you suddenly fear to visit <name>."
- And the last one: "You fear for <name> disappeared and was replaced by <name2>."
- Can someone receive nightmare abotu themselves (and halt arso from selfvisiting/tp from selftransing etc.)?
- Ever thought about to give the nightmarer a duration for the nigthmares to last instead of disappearing only after death/promotion? ( I suggest 3 days, refreshable)
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:13 am

Jerme wrote:I like the role. It has a unique and good concept. As always I have a couple of things to say.
- What happens if a Witch commands someone to visit the one they have nightmares about?
- What do you think towards this: "You notice that your nightmares were only an illusion [created by the Mafia]. You do not fear <name> anymore!"?
- Another quote: "After you woke up from a nightmare, you suddenly fear to visit <name>."
- And the last one: "You fear for <name> disappeared and was replaced by <name2>."
- Can someone receive nightmare about themselves (and halt arso from selfvisiting/tp from selftransing etc.)?
- Ever thought about to give the nightmarer a duration for the nigthmares to last instead of disappearing only after death/promotion? ( I suggest 3 days, refreshable)

These are good questions, and I suggest you read the technicalities portion. For your first one, If a witch controls you to your target you will visit them as you don't have control over your body. Same goes with if you are visiting someone and transporter switches that person with the person you have nightmares about, you will still visit as you don't believe you are visiting the person you fear that is a good thing to say once the nightmared dies or is promoted to Mafioso. I used to have it so you could make someone nightmare themselves but I changed it. Read the technicalities portion. Thank you for the quotes I will add them in. I have thought about making a time period for the nightmares, but I decided against it. Thank you sooo much for giving me feedback
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby KirbyRider1337 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:03 pm

Actually, the Nightmaring Maf achievement can be renamed to be the Are you afraid of the dark achievement. "Are we afraid of the Dark?" is an idea.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby lucas8411 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:13 pm

KirbyRider1337 wrote:Actually, the Nightmaring Maf achievement can be renamed to be the Are you afraid of the dark achievement. "Are we afraid of the Dark?" is an idea.

I like "Are you afraid of the dark achievement" beter but that's my opinion.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:29 pm

Thank you for ur feedback
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Nellyfox » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:58 pm

Don't post bumps, use the bump button instead. Do not double post either, use the edit button. Only warning on that as you've done it a lot. Double posting again will get you some consequence.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:24 pm

oh ok, im sorry
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby oliy » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:05 pm

I think nightmares should still be in affect if you're promoted so nobody knows if you were promoted or not. Please put your attributes in bullet format, it's what the game uses.

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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby lucas8411 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:36 pm

Just do it like this.
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- You may make your target have a "nightmare" about someone, making them too scared to visit that person at night.
- If a person has a nightmare, they will be notified "You have had a nightmare about [player 1]. You are too scared to visit them at night."
- If you make a player have a nightmare about a player, they will not be able to visit that player until the nightmarer makes you have a nightmare about someone else.
- All nightmares will go away if the nightmarer dies or gets promoted to mafioso.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:39 pm

thanks
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby KirbyRider1337 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:58 pm

Oh, yeah. I think the following should happen: If the Nightmarer gets promoted, the nightmares will remain, but the newly-promoted Mafioso will be unable to change the nightmares he inflicted, and in fact, if a Witch or Trans made him have nightmares of someone, he'll be unable to kill that person. The nightmares dispel if he dies, whether it be as Nightmarer or Mafioso.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:51 pm

plese tell me how I can improve this role
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