Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

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How do you like this role?

I really, really like it and I would like to see it added into ToS
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It could use some work/I have some ideas (Please tell me why or what your ideas are)
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Maybe/ I don't know (explain why)
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I don't like it (Why?)
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I wouldn't see it in ToS.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby oliy » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:35 pm

This role is creative, but is game-changing. If there's a killing role, and you make them have a nightmare about another Mafia member, in the endgame, you probably just led yourself to win. Also, you could be able to kill the Mayor more easily. Finally, rolebock prevention.However, it's very underwhelming to investigatives. Finally, it takes a high skill amount that I like it.
Questions - Why is it unique? It isn't the most powerful role and the mechanics aren't interfering. Also, will you visit just the first target, or both?

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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:50 pm

oliy wrote:This role is creative, but is game-changing. If there's a killing role, and you make them have a nightmare about another Mafia member, in the endgame, you probably just led yourself to win. Also, you could be able to kill the Mayor more easily. Finally, rolebock prevention.However, it's very underwhelming to investigatives. Finally, it takes a high skill amount that I like it.
Questions - Why is it unique? It isn't the most powerful role and the mechanics aren't interfering. Also, will you visit just the first target, or both?

simply because it covers too much ground, oliy, what work could it use? I see you voted could use some work.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:53 pm

at this point in the endgame, there would have to be two mafia, and one killer they would vote them up anyway.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:53 pm

maybe i should make it so that once you have made someone have nightmares about someone, you cant change it? i personally like it the way it is.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby oliy » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:11 pm

You shouldn't be able to change it, but once you die the effects should wear off on the next night.
Also, how do transporters affect targets someone is afraid of? What happens if someone you're afraid of being a swapped with someone you visit?

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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:17 pm

For your first thing, the effects already do if you read closely, for the first question, it has already been answered, and for the second question, you will visit the person because you are only not visiting them because you are afraid, if you dont think you are visiting them you will be ok i guess. PLEASE READ THE TECHNICALITIES PORTION. Also, TRY OUT THE TESTING GROUNDS LINK IN MY SIG
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:20 am

Also, transporters won't be able. To transport the person they had nightmares about
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby JerSo » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:59 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:Anyone have a backstory to add?

As a child this mysterious person grew up by his self.
The town was’nt able to help him so he abandoned Salem.
He dreamed every night about the town.
He was angry and learned how to manupilate that anger.
But he always saw one person who could help him: The godfather.
One day he came back to salem, he heard that that the townies had a suspision on a mafioso.
The sherrif had the leads and wanted to convince the others but it was to late to vote.
That night he stand by the house of the mafia and saw monsters.
He unleashed a parade of angels in to that house and the monsters turned into angels.
The next morning the sherrif did’n speak, his evidence was gone.
He walked into the house of the godfather and said: You made me see angels that night.
The godfather was surprised and said:’keep working on that and you will no longer have
nightmares.

Maybe you can change it but...
Do what you want.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:06 pm

JerSo wrote:
Arpitr20 wrote:Anyone have a backstory to add?

As a child this mysterious person grew up by his self.
The town was’nt able to help him so he abandoned Salem.
He dreamed every night about the town.
He was angry and learned how to manupilate that anger.
But he always saw one person who could help him: The godfather.
One day he came back to salem, he heard that that the townies had a suspision on a mafioso.
The sherrif had the leads and wanted to convince the others but it was to late to vote.
That night he stand by the house of the mafia and saw monsters.
He unleashed a parade of angels in to that house and the monsters turned into angels.
The next morning the sherrif did’n speak, his evidence was gone.
He walked into the house of the godfather and said: You made me see angels that night.
The godfather was surprised and said:’keep working on that and you will no longer have
nightmares.



Maybe you can change it but...
Do what you want.
I really like your role so keep asking for help!


Please, no more said. This is bad enough<insert worse backstory here> Now THAT was better. But seriously, this is hard to read. I can make one tomorrow if you want. :D
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby StormSurge » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:05 pm

You should add a killing role effect where killing roles have nightmares about a target and attack that person. If it's not a killing role it should just do what it normally does.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:16 pm

Huh that's interesting idea, so its risky to do that against the mafia. However, I've stated this multiple times, I've balanced it out because the person who has the nightmare will know who its about. So immediately raises suspicion about that person. Your idea makes it so that if the nightmare finds an SK, he becomes a witch who knows who the mafia are, and then the mafia have practically 2 night kills every night, and the nk is rendered useless, can't attack mafia, only attacks town. He'd probly give himself up as nk so town doesn't autolose. Thx for the suggestion tho. Again, with your idea it ends up as an op witch who knows who the mafia are. And then if it has nightmare abilities on evry non killing role...
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Nellyfox » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:39 pm

If you've nothing nice to say, don't say it at all. You can give constructive criticism, though it's clear if it is or not.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby LadyAnnabelle » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:42 pm

thank you Nelly. but i can safely say this role is good! i would so test it if at all able too.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:06 pm

Thank you
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:03 pm

Thank you for supporting my topic idea guys, and please, I have lieterally gotten NO feedback from the ones who said they hate this role or it needs some tweeks. Well, Ive gotten some, but there are still a lot of you who voted I don't like it but havent said anything on how i could improve it.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:16 pm

thx for supporting this role guys. Again, if you voed no plz tell me why im begging here.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby oliy » Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:02 pm

Name idea: Mara

Anyways, make the technicalities and attributes one list that players would understand. Put the basics in a list for attributes, and specifics for each role in a "notes" section. Maybe give a separate example.
After it becomes a bit more user-friendly through editing the format, then you'll have my 100% vote.

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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby JerSo » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:18 am

As a child this mysterious person grew up by his self.
The town was’nt able to help him so he abandoned Salem.
He dreamed every night about the town.
He was angry and learned how to manupilate that anger.
But he always saw one person who could help him: The godfather.
One day he came back to salem, he heard that that the townies had a suspision on a mafioso.
The sherrif had the leads and wanted to convince the others but it was to late to vote.
That night he stand by the house of the mafia and saw monsters.
He unleashed a parade of angels in to that house and the monsters turned into angels.
He walked home while the sherrif walked there and saw “them”.
The next morning the sherrif did’n speak, his evidence was gone.
He walked into the house of the godfather and said: You made me see angels that night.
The godfather was surprised and said:’keep working on that and you will no longer have
nightmares.The med had a suspision on the new person…

I don't care what you do with it.
But i really like this role.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:36 am

JerSo wrote:As a child this mysterious person grew up by his self.
The town was’nt able to help him so he abandoned Salem.
He dreamed every night about the town.
He was angry and learned how to manupilate that anger.
But he always saw one person who could help him: The godfather.
One day he came back to salem, he heard that that the townies had a suspision on a mafioso.
The sherrif had the leads and wanted to convince the others but it was to late to vote.
That night he stand by the house of the mafia and saw monsters.
He unleashed a parade of angels in to that house and the monsters turned into angels.
He walked home while the sherrif walked there and saw “them”.
The next morning the sherrif did’n speak, his evidence was gone.
He walked into the house of the godfather and said: You made me see angels that night.
The godfather was surprised and said:’keep working on that and you will no longer have
nightmares.The med had a suspision on the new person…

I don't care what you do with it.
But i really like this role.
So keep working!


Thx jerSo, but your story is really confusing. Could you cone back to me to polish it up.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Kirize12 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:54 am

I can write a backstory for you, but not right now.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

This matters - educate yourself.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:22 am

Kirize12 wrote:I can write a backstory for you, but not right now.

Thank you! I already made one, but its horrible.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Totes » Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:56 am

Btw we need an Are you Afraid of the Dark achievement.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby lucas8411 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:05 pm

Totes wrote:Btw we need an Are you Afraid of the Dark achievement.


That would be a good achievement name, but how do you get it?
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Totes » Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:10 pm

lucas8411 wrote:
Totes wrote:Btw we need an Are you Afraid of the Dark achievement.


That would be a good achievement name, but how do you get it?

Successfully perform a nightmare on someone I guess
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby lucas8411 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:12 pm

Totes wrote:
lucas8411 wrote:
Totes wrote:Btw we need an Are you Afraid of the Dark achievement.


That would be a good achievement name, but how do you get it?

Successfully perform a nightmare on someone I guess

Well that achievement isn't there so I think it's good. But I let the role maker deside if this a good achievement or not.
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