Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

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How do you like this role?

I really, really like it and I would like to see it added into ToS
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69%
It could use some work/I have some ideas (Please tell me why or what your ideas are)
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12%
Maybe/ I don't know (explain why)
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I don't like it (Why?)
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4%
I wouldn't see it in ToS.
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Total votes : 138

Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Kmenx » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:15 am

One of the best mafia role ideas in this topic

And nope it is not a consort it has a good advantage against lookouts
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:50 pm

thx. I request feedback!
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Jerme » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:53 am

Totes wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
Skulldug13 wrote:CONFIRMED BODYGAURD PROTECTING MAYOR!
THIS IS OP destroying all defense for the mayor or another Role


That's a good thing. It limits reveals, which is needed.

Skulldug, I recomend leaving the forums until you play at least 10 Ranked games, then kindly return and be better at balance for it.

This. Not just for Skulldug, but for everyone on the forum who hasn't played ranked this much. Their frankly annoying because they don't understand balance whatsoever.

This includes that I should also leave the forums, since I prefer to play All Any (mostly with friends) instead of ranked. Whatever ^^
@topic: There is not much to add.
Three quotes I would see missing:
1. changing the target of the nightmare
2. changing the person in the nightmare
3. message that the player one has nightmares about has changed.
What do you think if the people vote immediately vote the one they have nightmares about (vote cancelling/changing is still possible of course)?
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:21 pm

thanks jerme
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:23 pm

Thank You so much for your feedback! Thanks to you guys, my role is getting tested in the testing grounds.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Skulldug13 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:30 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
Skulldug13 wrote:CONFIRMED BODYGAURD PROTECTING MAYOR!
THIS IS OP destroying all defense for the mayor or another Role


That's a good thing. It limits reveals, which is needed.

Skulldug, I recomend leaving the forums until you play at least 10 Ranked games, then kindly return and be better at balance for it.


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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Totes » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:04 pm

Skulldug13 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
Skulldug13 wrote:CONFIRMED BODYGAURD PROTECTING MAYOR!
THIS IS OP destroying all defense for the mayor or another Role


That's a good thing. It limits reveals, which is needed.

Skulldug, I recomend leaving the forums until you play at least 10 Ranked games, then kindly return and be better at balance for it.


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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:05 pm

please attack each other somewhere else!
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Totes » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:06 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:please attack each other somewhere else!

I was merely explaining why that statement was a half ton of BS.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:17 pm

yes, sorry, just call each other liars somewhere else
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Totes » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:19 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:yes, sorry, just call each other liars somewhere else

It's okay I'm good now.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby becauseimbatman » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:40 pm

It seems like an interesting idea. I didn't see this mentioned too much in the OP, but what if the Nightmarer visits themselves then the nightmare set on someone else is removed? Just a thought as you're basically giving yourself a nightmare, but can't give yourself a nightmare about yourself.

Maybe I skimmed past it, but is this role unique?
If it's not unique, can you have a nightmare about someone else?

I get this slight feeling that maybe this role would be better off as a Neutral Evil. I say this because I don't see the Mafia messing with dreams, but an evil role like the Witch could. Ever consider changing its alignment?
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:59 pm

becauseimbatman wrote:It seems like an interesting idea. I didn't see this mentioned too much in the OP, but what if the Nightmarer visits themselves then the nightmare set on someone else is removed? Just a thought as you're basically giving yourself a nightmare, but can't give yourself a nightmare about yourself.

Maybe I skimmed past it, but is this role unique?
If it's not unique, can you have a nightmare about someone else?

I get this slight feeling that maybe this role would be better off as a Neutral Evil. I say this because I don't see the Mafia messing with dreams, but an evil role like the Witch could. Ever consider changing its alignment?

it doesnt make sense and work as well as a neutral. Sure, in real life, what the role does seems like a witch sort of thing, but for the game, its better as mafia. Your first question the nightmarer is given a nightmare sbout the person he selected. the second question, it is uniques, says it in the original post.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Kirize12 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:10 pm

Totes wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
Skulldug13 wrote:CONFIRMED BODYGAURD PROTECTING MAYOR!
THIS IS OP destroying all defense for the mayor or another Role


That's a good thing. It limits reveals, which is needed.

Skulldug, I recomend leaving the forums until you play at least 10 Ranked games, then kindly return and be better at balance for it.

This. Not just for Skulldug, but for everyone on the forum who hasn't played ranked this much. Their frankly annoying because they don't understand balance whatsoever.


No, Skulldug is a troll, not gonna sugarcoat it.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

This matters - educate yourself.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:35 pm

thought I would bring this back, as more people are on this forum, and I want more feedback from the haters and could use some work voters. THIS HAS MADE THE TESTING GROUNDS-FYI.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Jerme » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:34 pm

In my opinion we need to repeat the Nightmarer test, in order to really know its functionality. On the TG the Nightmarer got promoted N2-N3. Let's see when the next test of this role is performed.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:03 am

anything I can do to make this role better?
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby mrbones45 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:28 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:also, anyone hve a better name other than nightmarer. Nightmarer sounds odd...

Uhh i have a couple names for it!

Scarecrow

Chemist

Sinister (i like this one it would fit well)

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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby mrbones45 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:30 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:Anyone have a backstory to add?

If u want me to i could maybe write a back story and pm it to u
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:43 pm

bump
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby LadyAnnabelle » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:01 am

bump, bumpity bump!
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:03 pm

bump, cause I still can't find the bump button
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby murat1996 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:27 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:bump, cause I still can't find the bump button


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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:17 am

oh, thx murat for the info
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby theo07 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:21 am

Sorry if this has been asked,but how does it work with Shadowwalker?

Does he stop Sw from getting into someone's shadow or from attacking that person while being in someone's else shadow?
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