Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

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How do you like this role?

I really, really like it and I would like to see it added into ToS
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69%
It could use some work/I have some ideas (Please tell me why or what your ideas are)
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Maybe/ I don't know (explain why)
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I don't like it (Why?)
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4%
I wouldn't see it in ToS.
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Total votes : 138

Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby mrbones45 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:28 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:also, anyone hve a better name other than nightmarer. Nightmarer sounds odd...

Uhh i have a couple names for it!

Scarecrow

Chemist

Sinister (i like this one it would fit well)

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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby mrbones45 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:30 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:Anyone have a backstory to add?

If u want me to i could maybe write a back story and pm it to u
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:43 pm

bump
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby LadyAnnabelle » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:01 am

bump, bumpity bump!
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:03 pm

bump, cause I still can't find the bump button
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby murat1996 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:27 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:bump, cause I still can't find the bump button


The bump button appears after 5 days of inactivity
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:17 am

oh, thx murat for the info
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby theo07 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:21 am

Sorry if this has been asked,but how does it work with Shadowwalker?

Does he stop Sw from getting into someone's shadow or from attacking that person while being in someone's else shadow?
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:14 pm

feedback, the nine people who voted could use some work, what work could it use?
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby theo07 » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:20 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:feedback, the nine people who voted could use some work, what work could it use?



The feedback lord :D

I like it.It did pretty well on Tg .
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:27 pm

theo07 wrote:
Arpitr20 wrote:feedback, the nine people who voted could use some work, what work could it use?



The feedback lord :D

I like it.It did pretty well on Tg .

actually, it usually got promoted really early. because not enough people use the tg!. USE THE TG IT IS FUN LINKIN THE SINATURE JUST CLICK THE BIG YELLOW PICTURE!
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby hewhohasnoname » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:49 pm

I like this role its creative and better than my suggestion since i was drunk when i made it (not really but it was a bad idea XD). A better sexier name would be Reaper-I know its a powerful name but I honestly can't think of a better role for Reaper to be---maybe neutral killing? Well if nothing else Reaper fits the name bill :)
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:04 pm

I think its ok as nightmarer, or maybe roadblocker, suggested earlier.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Someguyinabobz » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:45 pm

Sounds like a consort, if its just stopping you from visiting, so its basically a nerfed consort
The Jailor is simply a role in which the majority tell the only one capable of killing what to do. If this person's ego gets in the way, then all is lost.

Anyone who power trips or says "Do X because I am Y Role" is a very obvious case of the Standford Guard Experiment.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:48 pm

Someguyinabobz wrote:Sounds like a consort, if its just stopping you from visiting, so its basically a nerfed consort

ugh, you misunderstood. it can visit everyone but 1 person dude, it does not lose its night ability. this could mean a bg cant visit a mayor or a serial killer cant attack a mafia member.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Someguyinabobz » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:53 pm

Arpitr20 wrote:
Someguyinabobz wrote:Sounds like a consort, if its just stopping you from visiting, so its basically a nerfed consort

ugh, you misunderstood. it can visit everyone but 1 person dude, it does not lose its night ability. this could mean a bg cant visit a mayor or a serial killer cant attack a mafia member.



Bg cant visit mayor-roleblocked

serial killer cant attack mafia-roleblocked but not killed.


Spoiler: Stop saying thanks to every single person for responding your just bumping your own topic -_-
The Jailor is simply a role in which the majority tell the only one capable of killing what to do. If this person's ego gets in the way, then all is lost.

Anyone who power trips or says "Do X because I am Y Role" is a very obvious case of the Standford Guard Experiment.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:39 pm

can someone help me explain to him? I am really bad at it. Kirize?
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby hewhohasnoname » Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:43 am

Someguyinabobz wrote:
Arpitr20 wrote:
Someguyinabobz wrote:Sounds like a consort, if its just stopping you from visiting, so its basically a nerfed consort

ugh, you misunderstood. it can visit everyone but 1 person dude, it does not lose its night ability. this could mean a bg cant visit a mayor or a serial killer cant attack a mafia member.



Bg cant visit mayor-roleblocked

serial killer cant attack mafia-roleblocked but not killed.


Spoiler: Stop saying thanks to every single person for responding your just bumping your own topic -_-



Yea Consort is different they prevent 1 person from using their night ability(if they have one)

Nightmarer prevents a specific person from using their night ability on someone else

Simplest way to explain
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby KirbyRider1337 » Fri Dec 25, 2015 2:22 am

Come to think of it, on the discussion of Consort, a RB'd Spy can't see any Mafia visits. How will a Nightmarer work when a Spy is given nightmares?

And the Consort and Nightmarer are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Let me spell it out for you:

Consort: Prevents someone from doing their night action PERIOD, but only on the night the Consort visits that said someone.
Nightmarer: Permanently prevents someone from visiting someone else, but that someone can still visit other people. Nightmaring BG on Mayor or Doc can prove useful, though.
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Town: BodyGuard, Investigator, Jailor, Mayor, Spy
Mafia: Consigliere, Janitor, Mafioso
Neutral: Arsonist, Jester, Serial Killer
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:22 am

KirbyRider1337 wrote:Come to think of it, on the discussion of Consort, a RB'd Spy can't see any Mafia visits. How will a Nightmarer work when a Spy is given nightmares?

And the Consort and Nightmarer are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Let me spell it out for you:

Consort: Prevents someone from doing their night action PERIOD, but only on the night the Consort visits that said someone.
Nightmarer: Permanently prevents someone from visiting someone else, but that someone can still visit other people. Nightmaring BG on Mayor or Doc can prove useful, though.

nightmares don't work on non-visiting roles. however, it will give them the notification that they had a nightmare about someone.
hewhohasnoname wrote:
Someguyinabobz wrote:
Arpitr20 wrote:[quote="Someguyinabobz"Sounds like a consort, if its just stopping you from visiting, so its basically a nerfed consort

ugh, you misunderstood. it can visit everyone but 1 person dude, it does not lose its night ability. this could mean a bg cant visit a mayor or a serial killer cant attack a mafia member.



Bg cant visit mayor-roleblocked

serial killer cant attack mafia-roleblocked but not killed.


Spoiler: Stop saying thanks to every single person for responding your just bumping your own topic -_-



Yea Consort is different they prevent 1 person from using their night ability(if they have one)

Nightmarer prevents a specific person from using their night ability on someone else

Simplest way to explain[/quote]
but not up because it staysfor multiple nights, and you can have multiple people rbed about the same person at once
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:56 pm

HEY Guys, some upfdate, you guys have helped the Nightmarer get tested in the tg twice!
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Lokiben » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:06 pm

I'll quote myself from the Testing Ground thread here:

Lokiben wrote:Sorry I didn't say goodbye before leaving; I had fun today despite the technical difficulties.

On the Nightmarer: Having played as the role today, I think it needs a tweak or two. Preventing the Investigator from visiting my Godfather seemed like a good idea until the Investigator announced the next day, "I was prevented from visiting batman." Surprisingly, that didn't turn into a lynch. The situation in which this role seemed the most applicable didn't actually turn out to be so, since it just draws suspicion to whoever the nightmare was about.
The next night I didn't give anyone a nightmare, with the intention of claiming that I had a nightmare myself the next day, except I forgot the next day.
Even if the player is informed that they had a nightmare, but not about who unless they were planning on visiting that person, that still wouldn't do much to save that person from scrutiny if an investigative role is successfully blocked from visiting them.
It was a cool idea, but I think this role might be broken. It's a no from me, barring a serious rework.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:15 pm

Lokiben wrote:I'll quote myself from the Testing Ground thread here:

Lokiben wrote:Sorry I didn't say goodbye before leaving; I had fun today despite the technical difficulties.

On the Nightmarer: Having played as the role today, I think it needs a tweak or two. Preventing the Investigator from visiting my Godfather seemed like a good idea until the Investigator announced the next day, "I was prevented from visiting batman." Surprisingly, that didn't turn into a lynch. The situation in which this role seemed the most applicable didn't actually turn out to be so, since it just draws suspicion to whoever the nightmare was about.
The next night I didn't give anyone a nightmare, with the intention of claiming that I had a nightmare myself the next day, except I forgot the next day.
Even if the player is informed that they had a nightmare, but not about who unless they were planning on visiting that person, that still wouldn't do much to save that person from scrutiny if an investigative role is successfully blocked from visiting them.
It was a cool idea, but I think this role might be broken. It's a no from me, barring a serious rework.

that was the point with the invest thing, but see if you had instead nightmared the investigator on a suspicious townie, could have led to their being lynched.
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Lokiben » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:17 pm

Well, if the most powerful part of a role is using its main ability for a secondary purpose, then it needs some changes. :P
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Re: Nightmarer (Mafia Support)

Postby Arpitr20 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:23 pm

no, because if you rb a bg about a mayor, or a doc about a bg doc combo. there are a lot of implications
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