Electrician (Neutral Killing)

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Should this be added into the game? Our goal is 100 votes, and then further action will be taken.

Yes, this should be added into the game.
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Yes, this should be added into the game.
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Re: Electrician

Postby LeScraf » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:43 pm

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LeScraf wrote:I think isrlygood is talking about actual GOOD nk ideas, like Shadowalker/


Buddy, 2 people hate this role. Two. Fucking. People.
If you don't have any ideas of how to improve it and are just mindlessly bashing it, STFU or GTFO this thread.

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Re: Electrician

Postby Kirize12 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:48 pm

If they don't visit they would be useless to their team.
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Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Electrician

Postby murat1996 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:09 pm

Well, I will say this is okay but not the best role you can get but ya know, at least Kirize tried.
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Re: Electrician

Postby Kirize12 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:45 pm

murat1996 wrote:Well, I will say this is okay but not the best role you can get but ya know, at least Kirize tried.


Your shadowalker isn't exactly godlike either. (mean?)
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Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Electrician

Postby murat1996 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:50 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
murat1996 wrote:Well, I will say this is okay but not the best role you can get but ya know, at least Kirize tried.


Your shadowalker isn't exactly godlike either. (mean?)


Godlike? wtf? when did I say that?
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Re: Electrician

Postby Flamingkamikaze » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:54 pm

Your target will be notified they were charged.

get rid of this and the roll is 200% bettter.
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Re: Electrician

Postby orangeandblack5 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:55 pm

Flamingkamikaze wrote:
Your target will be notified they were charged.

get rid of this and the roll is 200% bettter.

Disagree.

It shuts down movement if people know they are electrocuted.
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Re: Electrician

Postby Flamingkamikaze » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:57 pm

orangeandblack5 wrote:
Flamingkamikaze wrote:
Your target will be notified they were charged.

get rid of this and the roll is 200% bettter.

Disagree.

It shuts down movement if people know they are electrocuted.

Okay. How in the hell is it supposed to get kills in?
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Re: Electrician

Postby orangeandblack5 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:01 pm

Shutting down movement lets it electrocute everybody faster, letting it shock everybody to win.
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SwampRabbit wrote:your idea is that no town should ever be able to confirm themselves as town.

that is the dumbest idea I think I have heard.

ElderSivart wrote:I'm confused as to why BMG made a UI for Pirate and not Hypnotist.

Sarah Thorpe wrote:Role Ideas is great for masochists.
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Re: Electrician

Postby Kirize12 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:27 pm

murat1996 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
murat1996 wrote:Well, I will say this is okay but not the best role you can get but ya know, at least Kirize tried.


Your shadowalker isn't exactly godlike either. (mean?)


Godlike? wtf? when did I say that?


You never did. I use this bit all the time.
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Gobln: You are trash dude. TRASH.
Me: You're not exactly godlike either.
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Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Electrician

Postby Kirize12 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:28 pm

orangeandblack5 wrote:Shutting down movement lets it electrocute everybody faster, letting it shock everybody to win.


Plus scum may claim charged to avoid being investigated, and only the Electrician would know who's truly charged.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Electrician

Postby Gobln » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:35 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
You never did. I use this bit all the time.
Example:
Gobln: You are trash dude. TRASH.
Me: You're not exactly godlike either.

ye but thats not accurate.
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Re: Electrician

Postby Flamingkamikaze » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:34 pm

orangeandblack5 wrote:Shutting down movement lets it electrocute everybody faster, letting it shock everybody to win.

So you are saying you want it to be an arsonist? okay.
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Re: Electrician

Postby orangeandblack5 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:40 pm

Flamingkamikaze wrote:
orangeandblack5 wrote:Shutting down movement lets it electrocute everybody faster, letting it shock everybody to win.

So you are saying you want it to be an arsonist? okay.

It should have aspects of an Arsonist by design; but, an Arsonist doesn't shut down movement. Plus, this can constantly kill; it just depends on your targets.

My idea of a buff is that it isn't killed by a BG.
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that is the dumbest idea I think I have heard.

ElderSivart wrote:I'm confused as to why BMG made a UI for Pirate and not Hypnotist.

Sarah Thorpe wrote:Role Ideas is great for masochists.
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Re: Electrician

Postby Flamingkamikaze » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:41 pm

orangeandblack5 wrote:
Flamingkamikaze wrote:
orangeandblack5 wrote:Shutting down movement lets it electrocute everybody faster, letting it shock everybody to win.

So you are saying you want it to be an arsonist? okay.

It should have aspects of an Arsonist by design; but, an Arsonist doesn't shut down movement. Plus, this can constantly kill; it just depends on your targets.

My idea of a buff is that it isn't killed by a BG.

So you want it to be an OP arsonist. Got it.
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Re: Electrician

Postby isrlygood » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:46 pm

It's not even OP Flaming......I wouldn't really say it stops movement completely, early game the chances of you visiting a charged target is slim, that is if you're charged anyways.
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Re: Electrician

Postby Flamingkamikaze » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:49 pm

isrlygood wrote:It's not even OP Flaming......I wouldn't really say it stops movement completely, early game the chances of you visiting a charged target is slim, that is if you're charged anyways.

It would be directly more powerful than the arsonist.
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Re: Electrician

Postby orangeandblack5 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:58 pm

Flamingkamikaze wrote:
isrlygood wrote:It's not even OP Flaming......I wouldn't really say it stops movement completely, early game the chances of you visiting a charged target is slim, that is if you're charged anyways.

It would be directly more powerful than the arsonist.

Until Arsonist is given silent douses (which I want to be a thing, especially if this is added).
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that is the dumbest idea I think I have heard.

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Re: Electrician

Postby Kirize12 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:04 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
orangeandblack5 wrote:Shutting down movement lets it electrocute everybody faster, letting it shock everybody to win.


Plus scum may claim charged to avoid being investigated, and only the Electrician would know who's truly charged.


Players would have a lot of fun trying to find out who's actually charged.
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Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Electrician

Postby orangeandblack5 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:04 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
orangeandblack5 wrote:Shutting down movement lets it electrocute everybody faster, letting it shock everybody to win.


Plus scum may claim charged to avoid being investigated, and only the Electrician would know who's truly charged.


Players would have a lot of fun trying to find out who's actually charged.

Not really; all of the charged people would die.
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ElderSivart wrote:I'm confused as to why BMG made a UI for Pirate and not Hypnotist.

Sarah Thorpe wrote:Role Ideas is great for masochists.
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Re: Electrician

Postby Kirize12 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:35 pm

orangeandblack5 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:Not really; all of the charged people would die.


I don't think you get it. Scum can lie about being charged to avoid being targeted. While that's the only upside to knowing if you were charged or not, it's a pretty big upside.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Electrician

Postby Gobln » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:39 pm

why would anyone want another neutral ?
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Re: Electrician

Postby Flamingkamikaze » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:51 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
orangeandblack5 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
I don't think you get it. Scum can lie about being charged to avoid being targeted. While that's the only upside to knowing if you were charged or not, it's a pretty big upside.

No they can't. They will be counterclaimed.
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Re: Electrician

Postby Kirize12 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:55 pm

Flamingkamikaze wrote:No they can't. They will be counterclaimed.


And no one other than the Electrician would know which one is actually charged, and they'd never say anything!
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Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Electrician

Postby isrlygood » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:57 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
Flamingkamikaze wrote:No they can't. They will be counterclaimed.


And no one other than the Electrician would know which one is actually charged, and they'd never say anything!

You would lynch the one that seems scummy or hasn't contributed, or lynch one and exe the other.
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