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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby isrlygood » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:42 pm

Ehhhh, panda, you can't vote, did you put the settings on 0 votes per person?
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby Greenpandalover » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:44 pm

isrlygood wrote:Ehhhh, panda, you can't vote, did you put the settings on 0 votes per person?


I dont think I did, like I said, my tablet glitches with bad internet.

Let me check.

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It said it had the option of two, I added "Person can now change vote" to see if that fixed anything.
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby isrlygood » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:51 pm

Greenpandalover wrote:
isrlygood wrote:Ehhhh, panda, you can't vote, did you put the settings on 0 votes per person?


I dont think I did, like I said, my tablet glitches with bad internet.

Let me check.

*Edit*

It said it had the option of two, I added "Person can now change vote" to see if that fixed anything.

This is what i'm getting
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby Greenpandalover » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:57 pm

Let me just remove the limit...
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby EdmundMcGaben » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:04 pm

It still doesnt lets us vote :?

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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby isrlygood » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:04 pm

CUSTOMER SERVICE PLZ HELP
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby EdmundMcGaben » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:07 pm

Back on topic, i think that if the werewolf attacks a orphan, orphan should become a witch/survivor
Orphan gets this message:
'Some menacing beast attacked you but you survived the attack! You now only feel like surviving/witching and will do it for the rest of your life.'
Werewolf shoulds still get 'You attacked someone' message.

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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby isrlygood » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:12 pm

EdmundMcGaben wrote:Back on topic, i think that if the werewolf attacks a orphan, orphan should become a witch/survivor
Orphan gets this message:
'Some menacing beast attacked you but you survived the attack! You now only feel like surviving/witching and will do it for the rest of your life.'
Werewolf shoulds still get 'You attacked someone' message.

I think turning to a witch is best

Now, since we can't vote I think the Orphan should turn into a Blackmailer, reason for is that consig is pretty strong and maybe too strong of an addition to the team, Janitor is really strong, Disguiser and framer are useless or situational and consort is alright I guess, Blackmailer can be useful in any situation.
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby EdmundMcGaben » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:19 pm

My opinion is that he should choose what he wants to/GF can choose what he will become.

Idk doe. If needed, he should turn into a blackmailer. OTherwise i stated my opinion above.
EDIT: Just saw this: 'Poll ended on Mar 17'
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby Greenpandalover » Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:34 pm

EdmundMcGaben wrote:My opinion is that he should choose what he wants to/GF can choose what he will become.

Idk doe. If needed, he should turn into a blackmailer. OTherwise i stated my opinion above.
EDIT: Just saw this: 'Poll ended on Mar 17'
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Im an idiot, let me do some changing.

I needed to remove the poll, and make a new one, in which my tablet wouldnt let me.


THE POLL SHOULD BE UP!
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby SkylerFarrier » Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:41 pm

Greenpandalover wrote:
SkylerFarrier wrote:Greenpandalover, I think the "Mafia attacks Orphan, Orphan becomes Consig" is a good idea, because "Look what we found!" But I can also see Janitor being explainable, because the Orphan has to clean up all traces of her/his non-Mafia life.
Hmm. Now I want to know if you have ideas as to what Jailor-killed Orphan should be. I think Vig sounds nice, but Vig is the only non-Unique Town Killing anyways...


Thats why I putba poll in, because theres so many options e-e

Also, not sure what my last postbon here was abour, might of glitched from bad internet xD


I was full of hubris and thought it was because you liked my points. :D

As for the poll, I don't know how I didn't notice it, or the (recent) posts talking about it.
I voted "Yes" and "Blackmailer", because of the non-OP-Mafia roles, Blackmailer is both useful and explainable - wants to keep the mouths shut of anyone who remembers his parentless/parentlost origins (yes I can/will think of reasons for any and all roles).
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby Moleland » Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:50 pm

I prefer the idea that maybe the attacker actually orphans you maybe?
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby Greenpandalover » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:01 pm

Moleland wrote:I prefer the idea that maybe the attacker actually orphans you maybe?


What do you mean by that?

More of an explanation would be great :)
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby SkylerFarrier » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:35 pm

Greenpandalover wrote:
Moleland wrote:I prefer the idea that maybe the attacker actually orphans you maybe?


What do you mean by that?

More of an explanation would be great :)


In-game you have a parent and you get "converted" to the attacker's side if the attacker kills your parents? Sounds kind of like a reverse Exe, if I'm reading this person correctly.
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby Moleland » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:54 pm

Greenpandalover wrote:
Moleland wrote:I prefer the idea that maybe the attacker actually orphans you maybe?


What do you mean by that?

More of an explanation would be great :)


As in the person that attacks 'You' really attacks your parents. They take pity on you and raise you as there own. Hence the conversion
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby SkylerFarrier » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:39 pm

Moleland wrote:
Greenpandalover wrote:
Moleland wrote:I prefer the idea that maybe the attacker actually orphans you maybe?


What do you mean by that?

More of an explanation would be great :)


As in the person that attacks 'You' really attacks your parents. They take pity on you and raise you as their own. Hence the conversion


Ahhh, had to squint at this for awhile. It works the same (attacker selects your name) but lore purposes are different.
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby jacobm1122 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:28 pm

Too lazy to read the thread but if mafia attacks it it should become a random mafia role, excluding mafioso and godfather.
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby Greenpandalover » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:38 pm

jacobm1122 wrote:Too lazy to read the thread but if mafia attacks it it should become a random mafia role, excluding mafioso and godfather.


Someone mentioned that the Devs didnt like RNG based roles, so I was going to leave the option of the top two in the role for the devs to decide if they pick up (Probably wont) my role.
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby SkylerFarrier » Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:59 pm

Wow, people are tied for the Jailor... and one person voted for the Jailor question. XD

I don't think it's been asked yet, so what if the WW kill the Orphan? WW ignores Night Immunity (and is Unique), so shouldn't the Orphan be dead? If not, then made into a Survivor?
As for the Arsonist (also ignores), is the Orphan adopted after the dousing, or the subsequent igniting? If the dousing, would the fledgling Arsonist still be doused, needing a second night to clean themself?
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby Greenpandalover » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:04 pm

SkylerFarrier wrote:Wow, people are tied for the Jailor... and one person voted for the Jailor question. XD

I don't think it's been asked yet, so what if the WW kill the Orphan? WW ignores Night Immunity (and is Unique), so shouldn't the Orphan be dead? If not, then made into a Survivor?
As for the Arsonist (also ignores), is the Orphan adopted after the dousing, or the subsequent igniting? If the dousing, would the fledgling Arsonist still be doused, needing a second night to clean themself?



For the first question, the Orphan just dies. Though having it turn in a survivor would be interesting... To another poll!

For the second, its when the Orphan gets doused, not ignited. I made it doused because I could see players going "Im doused." then the arso ignites and they dont die, plus the message. The Orphan would not remain doused, some coding for that would have to go in.
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby SkylerFarrier » Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:18 pm

Greenpandalover wrote:
SkylerFarrier wrote:As for the Arsonist (also ignores), is the Orphan adopted after the dousing, or the subsequent igniting? If the dousing, would the fledgling Arsonist still be doused, needing a second night to clean themself?


For the second, its when the Orphan gets doused, not ignited. I made it doused because I could see players going "Im doused." then the arso ignites and they dont die, plus the message. The Orphan would not remain doused, some coding for that would have to go in.


Why not remain doused? The Arsonist visits, douses (target is Night Immune but dousing ignores that), adopts the Orphan. Orphan becomes second Arsonist, and now has the option to clean their first night as Arsonist.
This avoids any extra coding that would have to be done, which can be an obstacle in getting ideas approved/implemented.
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby Greenpandalover » Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:27 pm

SkylerFarrier wrote:
Why not remain doused? The Arsonist visits, douses (target is Night Immune but dousing ignores that), adopts the Orphan. Orphan becomes second Arsonist, and now has the option to clean their first night as Arsonist.
This avoids any extra coding that would have to be done, which can be an obstacle in getting ideas approved/implemented.
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The only reason I dont want the Orphan to remain doused is because....
1.) The Orphan might think they are clean already, and jump right into dousing
2.) The Arsonist might not want to wait, and ignite the next night
3.) The Orphan might not know how to clean, not many people know the Arsonist can clean himself.
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby Yoosha » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:28 pm

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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby SkylerFarrier » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:37 pm

Greenpandalover wrote:
SkylerFarrier wrote:Why not remain doused? The Arsonist visits, douses (target is Night Immune but dousing ignores that), adopts the Orphan. Orphan becomes second Arsonist, and now has the option to clean their first night as Arsonist.
This avoids any extra coding that would have to be done, which can be an obstacle in getting ideas approved/implemented.
Did a bit of snipping in the quotes.


The only reason I dont want the Orphan to remain doused is because....
1.) The Orphan might think they are clean already, and jump right into dousing
2.) The Arsonist might not want to wait, and ignite the next night
3.) The Orphan might not know how to clean, not many people know the Arsonist can clean himself.

So, for Lore purposes, the Arsonist's adoption involves teaching new-Arsonist how to avoid self-immolation?
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Re: The Orphan, Neutral Benign

Postby Greenpandalover » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:00 pm

SkylerFarrier wrote:So, for Lore purposes, the Arsonist's adoption involves teaching new-Arsonist how to avoid self-immolation?


In a way, I guess it is, but at the same time it isnt?

I dont know e-e
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