TG Episode I | Game Over [Mafia Wins!]

[DumbStorm]

Most of high-level ToS is scumreading. I feel like this should be coming natural to everyone.

[BS4125]

We could have a meme phase :smirk:
But I feel like we killed that sadly

[Gooose26]

I'm not saying that though am I? I am saying it HELPS.

Keyword here is HELPS.

If, and only if, the evils make a mistake, or fall under a profile, I guess you could say. But townies can also be scummy, just as much as an evil that knows what he's doing. A scumread can just as easily lead to a mislynch as much as a good lynch.

[BS4125]

I'm not saying that though am I? I am saying it HELPS.

Keyword here is HELPS.

If, and only if, the evils make a mistake, or fall under a profile, I guess you could say. But townies can also be scummy, just as much as an evil that knows what he's doing. A scumread can just as easily lead to a mislynch as much as a good lynch.

There's a difference between scummy noob meta and scummy scum meta though
I have a very bad scummy noob meta c;

[Cirque]

/confirm

For the wills and the night actions, do I send in in 1 PM or have separate PMs labeling the subject 'TG Episode 1' etc?

[Gooose26]

And I'm not saying acumreading is bad bt I do feel like it is very hard and even when you think you've got the hidden meaning, sometimes you still missed something, because people can easily act differently as a role and thus you would also need to know the person as well, and their playstyle, all of it. Also, a dice roll can't tell lies, assumptions can, although they can on average be more accurate. Nubs will make be more like dice rolls, although easy to deceive.

And I still don't understand how hypoclaiming works, it's very confusing and to me I see fake claims that lead to misguided information

[DumbStorm]

And I'm not saying acumreading is bad bt I do feel like it is very hard and even when you think you've got the hidden meaning, sometimes you still missed something, because people can easily act differently as a role and thus you would also need to know the person as well, and their playstyle, all of it. Also, a dice roll can't tell lies, assumptions can, although they can on average be more accurate. Nubs will make be more like dice rolls, although easy to deceive.

And I still don't understand how hypoclaiming works, it's very confusing and to me I see fake claims that lead to misguided information

Hypoclaiming is for games with no wills.

Also dude, jfc dude, we don't care, we're doing a D1 lynch.

At the moment you're a good start for now. You're the only one opposing the lynch.

/vote Gooose26

Note that this is temp, I don't plan on lynching you. I want to see how our friends act.

[Gooose26]

Hypoclaiming is for games with no wills.

Also dude, jfc dude, we don't care, we're doing a D1 lynch.

At the moment you're a good start for now. You're the only one opposing the lynch.

/vote Gooose26

Note that this is temp, I don't plan on lynching you. I want to see how our friends act.

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Oppose it? I never opposed it I just stated that it is likely to be swingy since not much has happened and scumreading is already difficult. It can easily go both ways and I don't really see eye to eye on how a mislynch can be good for us.

Normally I countervote because voting me is kind've pushy and that usually points toward scum anyways, but since you said "I don't plan on lynching you" then I'll let it slide. That is unless it turns into a lot more aggression if our friends start voting me up as well

But don't do a day 1 lynch unless you have an actual scumread, which right now you don't.

[HereThereEverywhere]

Yo I is here

[DumbStorm]

Read everything before you make a post pls.

[HereThereEverywhere]

I did.

[DumbStorm]

good. opinions?

[HereThereEverywhere]

Not much.

Goose, a mislynch is good. People who bandwagon without a reason are good places to start for TI and they're good people to be suspicious of. The last voter could very well be Mafia, seeing as they'd know they're probably voting Town. Not voting means we're not going to have many leads going into the night.

[Gooose26]

Not much.

Goose, a mislynch is good. People who bandwagon without a reason are good places to start for TI and they're good people to be suspicious of. The last voter could very well be Mafia, seeing as they'd know they're probably voting Town. Not voting means we're not going to have many leads going into the night.

Again didn't mean it is all bad, sure you could see that, but at the same time it's not hard for an evil to vote 4th or 5th being aware of that.

But I feel like potentially losing a town member just for a good place to start like that isn't really worth it. I guess we could do it but 1 townie could be very important later in the game and the leas might not always get the best result, just think it's risky.

Not voting means that we won't have a dead townie on our hands as well, although we could still get lucky potentially, just not likely since town is majority. And because the majority of the town will be visiting I think we'll definitely get plenty of information to start consistently lynching tommorow.

[DumbStorm]

/confirm

For the wills and the night actions, do I send in in 1 PM or have separate PMs labeling the subject 'TG Episode 1' etc?

Also, you just confirmed you have a night action dude.

[Cirque]

/confirm

For the wills and the night actions, do I send in in 1 PM or have separate PMs labeling the subject 'TG Episode 1' etc?

Also, you just confirmed you have a night action dude.

Thanks for reminding me that I'm new to these games, and that I should have PMd this question instead. I have a lot to learn aha

[lemonader666]

Gotta start somewhere ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

/Vote Gooose

is that sheeping

/confirm because everyone else is doing this but never does in the real game.

/vote BS4125

also good luck guys

[Gooose26]

So that means that he is more likely to be non-town then. 1/3rd of the town is impossible for him, and assuming that all the other town roles can visit, which is unlikely, then there are 6 town roles to 3 mafia and 3 neutrals (If neutral evil can visit). We can check from the information we get tonight though to see what happens and what visiting roles are confirmed in the game, but definitely keep that in mind.

And BS said to talk about evil roles that exist and how to counter them. Are we planning to do that tommorow when we see a bit of what roles we have or are we going to just list everything out? Or do any of that at all?

[lemonader666]

Lemon, question. Why aren't you voting for Gooose?

because you're a sheep

[BS4125]

Gooose: "Omg we can't lynch anyone unless they are confirmed not Town"
Literally you are only confirmed when you die

A mislynch is not bad if you're not in MyLo or LyLo and have no leads to anything because it creates leads and usually narrowing stuff down leads to a scum lynch anyway and it creates leads, and really solid may I add, which can help narrow down people later in the game

/confirm

For the wills and the night actions, do I send in in 1 PM or have separate PMs labeling the subject 'TG Episode 1' etc?

Also, you just confirmed you have a night action dude.

Either that or the best Jester play 2k17

We can rule out Cirque for Citizen now.

That does look like a PR slip, I would meh with just the will but the night action pretty much confirms it

DO NOT CLAIM UNLESS YOU ARE WAGONED UP TO L-2

Seriously, I still have nightmares of Zinkeron hard claiming Escort in the first 30 minutes of the game

[lemonader666]

or L-3 since L-2 might be too late to defend themself. Wait, who is zinkeron?

[DumbStorm]

Ok lemon if you rolled scum again I'm going to laugh.

/Unvote

/Vote Lemonader666

You had no explanation for the vote, and BS is simply helping explain a D1 lynch, and usually you sheep on everyone, but you didn't sheep on Goose, which makes me think goose is suspicious too.

This behaviour seems extremely scummy for a town to do.

[BS4125]

Gotta start somewhere ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

/Vote Gooose

is that sheeping

/confirm because everyone else is doing this but never does in the real game.

/vote BS4125

also good luck guys

sips lemonade

So that means that he is more likely to be non-town then. 1/3rd of the town is impossible for him, and assuming that all the other town roles can visit, which is unlikely, then there are 6 town roles to 3 mafia and 3 neutrals (If neutral evil can visit). We can check from the information we get tonight though to see what happens and what visiting roles are confirmed in the game, but definitely keep that in mind.

And BS said to talk about evil roles that exist and how to counter them. Are we planning to do that tommorow when we see a bit of what roles we have or are we going to just list everything out? Or do any of that at all?

I would do all the percentage stuff and what not but it has been proven that percent chance doesn't impact that much, it doesn't influence decisions greatly tbf but I do like you pointing this out though, if he is scum then we've just limited his claim space.
We can, and should talk about evil roles, I mean for instance if we wake up tomorrow and find no one dead from NK then it's deduced to Electrician, Arsonist and Butcher as those encourage slow kills, also if lots of people have been roleblocked then we can assume Ghost or Stalker is in play (btw, Escort, Ghost, Consort, Nightmarer, Slaughterer and Stalker all give roleblocked feedback)

[lemonader666]

seriously storm

[Cirque]

Lemon, why are you voting for BS4?

[b]/vote lemonader666[]/b]