TG Roles for February 2017

Test roles that have been suggested in simulated gameplay.

TG Roles for February 2017

Postby Ralozey » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:00 pm

This Poll will determine which of these roles are going to be in TG next.
Please resubmit your roles, even if they were in the last Poll.


You have 1 vote!

Yandere by TheMajesticSammie 7
Rogue Sniper by SparksElm 0
Merchant by sh99er 3

I know it's not that much, but we're trying very hard to get more roles in. For now, only those have been accepted. (Doesn't mean the others won't ;))

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby Kirize12 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:28 pm

FIRST
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby RotomDex » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:31 pm

So few roles! RIP my submissions.

I'm voting for the Yandere out of the ones available.
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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby Kirize12 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:33 pm

/vote Yandere

It would prove interesting to test, at least. Merchant is a confirmable Neutral Benign and Rogue Sniper is an NK that has no idea who it's going to kill and no full immunity.
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Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby oliy » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:47 pm

Prepare for my roles ;D

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby BS4125 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:50 pm

/abstain so far

Surprised Spiritualist hasn't been carried over, it got a lot of votes last time

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby alex1234321 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:43 pm

Kirize12 wrote:/vote Yandere

It would prove interesting to test, at least. Merchant is a confirmable Neutral Benign and Rogue Sniper is an NK that has no idea who it's going to kill and no full immunity.

This here, except that I am not voting yet. Although Yandere is definitely the best role, it is a bit swingy in that its win condition revolves around one person. Also, they could either be an overpowered Vigilante or second kill for Mafia.

While it is an interesting role and I like it, I do not think it is worthy of being in the TG.
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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby Kirize12 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:03 pm

alex1234321 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:/vote Yandere

It would prove interesting to test, at least. Merchant is a confirmable Neutral Benign and Rogue Sniper is an NK that has no idea who it's going to kill and no full immunity.

This here, except that I am not voting yet. Although Yandere is definitely the best role, it is a bit swingy in that its win condition revolves around one person. Also, they could either be an overpowered Vigilante or second kill for Mafia.

While it is an interesting role and I like it, I do not think it is worthy of being in the TG.

I mainly voted for it because it's Neutral Chaos, which means not in Standard Games, and would at least be interesting to test.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby oliy » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:28 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:/vote Yandere

It would prove interesting to test, at least. Merchant is a confirmable Neutral Benign and Rogue Sniper is an NK that has no idea who it's going to kill and no full immunity.

This here, except that I am not voting yet. Although Yandere is definitely the best role, it is a bit swingy in that its win condition revolves around one person. Also, they could either be an overpowered Vigilante or second kill for Mafia.

While it is an interesting role and I like it, I do not think it is worthy of being in the TG.

I mainly voted for it because it's Neutral Chaos, which means not in Standard Games, and would at least be interesting to test.

Shall I suggest mine then?

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby BS4125 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:18 pm

oliy wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:/vote Yandere

It would prove interesting to test, at least. Merchant is a confirmable Neutral Benign and Rogue Sniper is an NK that has no idea who it's going to kill and no full immunity.

This here, except that I am not voting yet. Although Yandere is definitely the best role, it is a bit swingy in that its win condition revolves around one person. Also, they could either be an overpowered Vigilante or second kill for Mafia.

While it is an interesting role and I like it, I do not think it is worthy of being in the TG.

I mainly voted for it because it's Neutral Chaos, which means not in Standard Games, and would at least be interesting to test.

Shall I suggest mine then?

If you've PMed the role it's gone through, they're looking through them currently, I hope

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby oliy » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:34 pm

I haven't suggested my NC roles. A few questions:
How many roles per person?
Will NC roles be separate from other roles as nothing too serious is truly intended by it?

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby JamesD28 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:49 pm

/vote Yandere

The only decent NC role I've seen so far; could imagine it being rather fun to play as.

My role idea's not here so I'm assuming it either hasn't been accepted or still hasn't been decided on - still waiting on a response ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby BS4125 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:16 am

oliy wrote:I haven't suggested my NC roles. A few questions:
How many roles per person?
Will NC roles be separate from other roles as nothing too serious is truly intended by it?

sh99er had 5 last year so I think 5 but it also has all the reason to be unlimited
It should be


Btw just because are three rolls in the poll does not mean you should vote for one now. Many other roles are being added in later so don't waste your votes on roles when there could be roles added in later that you prefer more. I actually think this is unfair, it gives these three roles the upper hand against the others because people could just think that these are the only 3 roles in the competition and when the other roles are added we are more familiar to them so we are bias

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BS4125 wrote:Please post relevant posts to the topic at hand and not digress. Also please explain your opinions otherwise your contribution is sub-zero.


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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby timurtheking » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:48 am

Only 1 vote :/ i like both yandere and merchant. O well for now ill do /vote merchant
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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby Kirize12 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:14 am

BS4125 wrote:
oliy wrote:I haven't suggested my NC roles. A few questions:
How many roles per person?
Will NC roles be separate from other roles as nothing too serious is truly intended by it?

sh99er had 5 last year so I think 5 but it also has all the reason to be unlimited
It should be


Btw just because are three rolls in the poll does not mean you should vote for one now. Many other roles are being added in later so don't waste your votes on roles when there could be roles added in later that you prefer more. I actually think this is unfair, it gives these three roles the upper hand against the others because people could just think that these are the only 3 roles in the competition and when the other roles are added we are more familiar to them so we are bias

As there are more roles, there will be more votes.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby BS4125 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:04 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
BS4125 wrote:
oliy wrote:I haven't suggested my NC roles. A few questions:
How many roles per person?
Will NC roles be separate from other roles as nothing too serious is truly intended by it?

sh99er had 5 last year so I think 5 but it also has all the reason to be unlimited
It should be


Btw just because are three rolls in the poll does not mean you should vote for one now. Many other roles are being added in later so don't waste your votes on roles when there could be roles added in later that you prefer more. I actually think this is unfair, it gives these three roles the upper hand against the others because people could just think that these are the only 3 roles in the competition and when the other roles are added we are more familiar to them so we are bias

As there are more roles, there will be more votes.

Yes, but we don't know what other roles are and some people may vote for one of them three on the list currently but then when all the roles are added realise they prefer another

If so, allow people to unvote

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Seththeking wrote:
BS4125 wrote:Please post relevant posts to the topic at hand and not digress. Also please explain your opinions otherwise your contribution is sub-zero.


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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby Kirize12 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:27 pm

Did you really think people weren't allowed to unvote?
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby BS4125 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:30 pm

Kirize12 wrote:Did you really think people weren't allowed to unvote?

Doesn't state so
Anyway, unvoting and revoting is messy

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BS4125 wrote:Please post relevant posts to the topic at hand and not digress. Also please explain your opinions otherwise your contribution is sub-zero.


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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby Kirize12 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:39 pm

BS4125 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:Did you really think people weren't allowed to unvote?

Doesn't state so
Anyway, unvoting and revoting is messy

I thought it was common sense.

I'm not sure what's messy about it, are you attempting to push through loopholes right now?
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby sh99er » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:00 pm

ima stay neutral for now, i would vote my own role merchant buuuuuut...ill wait
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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby sh99er » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:11 pm

BS4125 wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
BS4125 wrote:
oliy wrote:I haven't suggested my NC roles. A few questions:
How many roles per person?
Will NC roles be separate from other roles as nothing too serious is truly intended by it?

sh99er had 5 last year so I think 5 but it also has all the reason to be unlimited
It should be


Btw just because are three rolls in the poll does not mean you should vote for one now. Many other roles are being added in later so don't waste your votes on roles when there could be roles added in later that you prefer more. I actually think this is unfair, it gives these three roles the upper hand against the others because people could just think that these are the only 3 roles in the competition and when the other roles are added we are more familiar to them so we are bias

As there are more roles, there will be more votes.

Yes, but we don't know what other roles are and some people may vote for one of them three on the list currently but then when all the roles are added realise they prefer another

If so, allow people to unvote


I know have 12 NC roles....id like more of them to be here lol. (succubus mainly).
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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby alex1234321 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:14 pm

I only have 2 NC roles. I might want to suggest Minion/Minion Leader.
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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby BS4125 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:15 pm

Is it possible to see all the roles that have applied so I know if I'll vote for anything or not?

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby Kirize12 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:47 pm

BS4125 wrote:Is it possible to see all the roles that have applied so I know if I'll vote for anything or not?

No. We want to keep those under wraps.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: TG Roles for January 2017

Postby realmaster42 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:28 pm

/vote Merchant
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