Brilliand wrote:MadBomberCat wrote:syj has confirmed that judge cannot object to their own trial, giving the reasoning " I thought you couldnt since in ToS you cannot directly affect your own lynching in any way"
This pretty much confirms alex, although I'm not sure if it's allowed in the rules (well Dawn claimed to get results late so it's probably legal)
I agree that this pretty much confirms alex. The rules can't really forbid us from acting on this information, though possibly there should have been a rule against Alex quoting the mod at all. (I don't see such a rule for this game.)
If Alex is Town then we have we have Ezra as Necromancer, alienxotic as Potion Master and one RN in (Jaiden, fwogcarf). So, yeah, game looks solved.
/vote Ezra
MadBomberCat wrote:They left. No claim, no attempt, just joining and leaving.
MadBomberCat wrote:MadBomberCat wrote:ChrisChris40 I see you online, claim now.
No reading everything that has happened, I just want a claim and a will.
Chrischris40 wrote:MadBomberCat wrote:They left. No claim, no attempt, just joining and leaving.
I have the forums tab open 24/7 but I'm usually afk on my laptop 90% of the time and probably closed it on accident for like a second. Also apologies for my inactivity I was kinda busy today and I wasn't used to the pacing for forum mafia and wanted to catch up on every page I had missed.MadBomberCat wrote:MadBomberCat wrote:ChrisChris40 I see you online, claim now.
No reading everything that has happened, I just want a claim and a will.
Ironically, me reading everything that happened is the reason why I didn't respond to this post. Also we're making wills? Still kinda new to this so I didn't make one. (Although I wouldn't post it today anyway.) I'd also just prefer not to claim today.
Right now the votes look mixed (or maybe that's just from the mass reading I was doing) but my vote for now is on Ezra.
/vote Ezra
MadBomberCat wrote:Salocin481 wrote:alex1234321 wrote:Nolynch is dumb right now. And I trust descender far more than I trust Ezra so I think Ezra is most likely scum regardless. And their play has been pretty scummy which I've been calling them out for all game. There was the invest check early on but remember they claimed TP rather than a full role likely not knowing it was an invest but just trying to be safe.
Based on the numbers here it feels like fwog is RN.
Ezra is Necro or Good. Thing is I've only seen 2 visits every night, so it's likely that Ezra is Necro. Another possibility is that Alien is the missing RC visit, and they're HM (or maybe even Poisoner?)
The thing is that we have 3 confirmed Townies, that being Rokk, Brilliand (Unless Alien flies outta nowhere with a CC) and Super. If there is an RN, I believe it's Jaiden as Rolestopper more than anything.
I'm gonna say that it's likely mighty, Gold, [Brilliand/Alien, leaning Alien], [Ezra/Alex, kinda split], and then Jaiden as RN if there is one.
I'll try to make a list out of this.
Jailor - Me
TI - Endertoad
TI - Super
TP - Axe
TK - Brilliand or alienxotic
RT - Sal
RT - Dawn
RT - fwogcarf
RT - alex or Ezra
CL - Mr60Gold
RC - Brilliand or alienxotic
RC - alex or Ezra
DUSA - mighty
RN - Vampire Acolyte
RN - Descender
I'll now say why I doubt one specific thing, Descender being RN. If Descender was Exe/Jest, they would have played differently. If Descender was Survivor, I don't think they'd play so aggressively. If Descender was Amnesiac planning to remember town, they would have claimed by now. Planning to remember coven could be a possibility If Descender was Rolestopper, they sabotaged their chances of winning a lot (getting SK out, putting suspicion on several people who could be evil, not jumping on the lynch Endertoad train.) If Descender was coven's servant, that would mean that alex is town. If Descender was Plaguebearer... well, this is the most likely scenario if Descender was actually RN imo. Only 3 roles where Descender being RN makes sense, and one of those comes with a condition of alex being town.
didnt push him d1MadBomberCat wrote:Brilliand wrote:MadBomberCat wrote:Only 3 roles where Descender being RN makes sense, and one of those comes with a condition of alex being town.
Wait which one comes with the condition of alex being Town? And how? I haven't noticed anything like that.
If Descender was coven's servant, and alex was coven, it would make no sense for Descender to push alex since d1. I don't think Descender is RN, I just just saying scenarios where Descender truly is RN, and that's one of them.
Descender wrote:MadBomberCat wrote:Salocin481 wrote:alex1234321 wrote:Nolynch is dumb right now. And I trust descender far more than I trust Ezra so I think Ezra is most likely scum regardless. And their play has been pretty scummy which I've been calling them out for all game. There was the invest check early on but remember they claimed TP rather than a full role likely not knowing it was an invest but just trying to be safe.
Based on the numbers here it feels like fwog is RN.
Ezra is Necro or Good. Thing is I've only seen 2 visits every night, so it's likely that Ezra is Necro. Another possibility is that Alien is the missing RC visit, and they're HM (or maybe even Poisoner?)
The thing is that we have 3 confirmed Townies, that being Rokk, Brilliand (Unless Alien flies outta nowhere with a CC) and Super. If there is an RN, I believe it's Jaiden as Rolestopper more than anything.
I'm gonna say that it's likely mighty, Gold, [Brilliand/Alien, leaning Alien], [Ezra/Alex, kinda split], and then Jaiden as RN if there is one.
I'll try to make a list out of this.
Jailor - Me
TI - Endertoad
TI - Super
TP - Axe
TK - Brilliand or alienxotic
RT - Sal
RT - Dawn
RT - fwogcarf
RT - alex or Ezra
CL - Mr60Gold
RC - Brilliand or alienxotic
RC - alex or Ezra
DUSA - mighty
RN - Vampire Acolyte
RN - Descender
I'll now say why I doubt one specific thing, Descender being RN. If Descender was Exe/Jest, they would have played differently. If Descender was Survivor, I don't think they'd play so aggressively. If Descender was Amnesiac planning to remember town, they would have claimed by now. Planning to remember coven could be a possibility If Descender was Rolestopper, they sabotaged their chances of winning a lot (getting SK out, putting suspicion on several people who could be evil, not jumping on the lynch Endertoad train.) If Descender was coven's servant, that would mean that alex is town. If Descender was Plaguebearer... well, this is the most likely scenario if Descender was actually RN imo. Only 3 roles where Descender being RN makes sense, and one of those comes with a condition of alex being town.
"jaiden doesnt fit as neutral but ive already decided shes neutral so shes neutral"
Brilliand wrote:The Descender Plaguebearer scenario does seem plausible though.
Descender wrote:I don't understand how anyone who isn't scum can seriously be voting the most Powerful and Active player in the game, someone who has acted more pro-town than possibly anyone else, over the most obvious scum in the History of FM.
Ezradekezra wrote:Alex
Gold
Mighty
idk who the other 2 evils are
Ezradekezra wrote:alex isn't jailor
he clearly isn't a mayor or he would've revealed by now
so what is he
Ezradekezra wrote:Rokk needs to claim too, methinks
Ezradekezra wrote:alex1234321 wrote:Anyway @Ezra what are your thoughts about me vs descender? Looking through your ISO, you whispered to desc a little bit and said I might be veteran, which I am very much not. Other than that and a weak defense to one of my weak accusations against you've mostly been staying out of it while trying to mimic the appearance of someone who is active and involved. Care to explain?
Wallposts are annoying to read and I've been kinda busy this evening so I've only really partially been paying attention to it.
Desc is obviously Town since no sane evil intentionally puts themself into a 1f1 this early.
I'm majorly suspicious of you since at this point it just seems like you're either jesting or attempting to pivot the lynch off of the outed evil.
The whisper to Desc was literally just me claiming to them since they wanted to play the whisper game.
alex1234321 wrote:I don't understand how anyone who isn't scum can seriously be voting the most Powerful and Active player in the game, someone who has acted more pro-town than possibly anyone else, over the most obvious scum in the History of FM.
MadBomberCat wrote:Looks like all the confirmed people (Me, Brilliand, Super) have agreed to vote Ezra. Town please vote Ezra, we need to get as many votes on Ezra as possible.
Brilliand wrote:alex1234321 wrote:I don't understand how anyone who isn't scum can seriously be voting the most Powerful and Active player in the game, someone who has acted more pro-town than possibly anyone else, over the most obvious scum in the History of FM.
"Powerful and Active" I can agree with, but I really don't see your behavior as pro-Town. It looked like you were trying to control the Town without providing any reason why we should trust you; which, I'm sure you understand, is something any Coven member would happily do if they thought they could get away with it. You also screwed with the decision-making of the town by making false promises to reveal as Mayor to save the Town's majority, you diverted the D2 vote onto a mislynch in the last few hours, and then you topped it off by claiming Jailor at a time when the real Jailor wouldn't have been able to retaliate quickly.
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