TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Test roles that have been suggested in simulated gameplay.

Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby ThreeWiseGuys » Sun May 09, 2021 7:57 pm

/Unvote Charmer /Unvote Technician
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby superdog551 » Sun May 09, 2021 8:05 pm

People keep unvoting Charmer :(
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby Brilliand » Mon May 10, 2021 12:00 am

Oh no you guys made the tie matter again!

Well I figure if there is a tie for 4th place, we can just count all of those roles as having barely lost. We can afford to have only 2 or 3 roles under test some months.
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Mon May 10, 2021 7:56 am

My thoughs on each role

Bishop by cob709
The concept is intresting but it would cause too much shitty metas around it

Blacksmith by alex1234321
Its still way too UP, and its very hard to buff it without suddenly make it OP

Blacksmith by MarsGodofWar
Depends completely on other players, and can make certain roles extremely overpowered (vet and transporter)

Charmer by superdog551
It sounds very swingy, but its worth trying

Historian by alex1234321
Sounds op at the start but I like it, the problem is that we need a game with at least 9 players to be able to test correctly (like any other role, but this one requieres it more than other roles)

Agent by cob709
No reason why anyone should be against this

Kidnapper by MarsGodofWar
The solution to nerf the strongest town role is not to move it to mafia

Sniper by MarsGodofWar
Sure, why not

Technician by Cavespider17
Suposing we dont consider that it might be hard to use, I like it

Auditor by MarsGodofWar
It adds nothing to the game, and its boring to play as and against

Kleptomaniac by Ezradekezra
I still think that its too similar to witch and retri and copycat, imo we should stay with copycat

Omen by CapWarrior2
Pretty UP and it doesnt helps very much

Vampire Rework by alex1234321
Anything which removes conversion is better than the current vampire

Veteran/Witch Rework by MarsGodofWar
Wouldnt hurt, but its not impacting enough to have to test in on TG

Neutral Subalignment Rearrangement
Surprised this has so few votes


with all this said

/vote charmer
/vote historian
/vote sniper
/vote agent
/vote techician
/vote neutral subalignment
/vote vampire rework
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby alex1234321 » Mon May 10, 2021 8:43 am

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:Blacksmith by alex1234321
Its still way too UP, and its very hard to buff it without suddenly make it OP


How is it UP? The only time it would be weaker than Doctor is if the person with the vest survives or is lynched. But to compensate it can target whoever it thinks will die, including scumreads. Since it gets a vest if its target is lynched, it can pick someone scummy who's likely to get lynched and put a vest on the Jailor.
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Mon May 10, 2021 10:36 am

alex1234321 wrote:
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:Blacksmith by alex1234321
Its still way too UP, and its very hard to buff it without suddenly make it OP


How is it UP? The only time it would be weaker than Doctor is if the person with the vest survives or is lynched. But to compensate it can target whoever it thinks will die, including scumreads. Since it gets a vest if its target is lynched, it can pick someone scummy who's likely to get lynched and put a vest on the Jailor.


does it ignores jailing?

the problem is that depends way too much on TKs, and sometimes it might encourage bad plays

Dont get surprised if idiots start pushing randomly their target just to get a vest
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby alex1234321 » Mon May 10, 2021 10:44 am

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:Blacksmith by alex1234321
Its still way too UP, and its very hard to buff it without suddenly make it OP


How is it UP? The only time it would be weaker than Doctor is if the person with the vest survives or is lynched. But to compensate it can target whoever it thinks will die, including scumreads. Since it gets a vest if its target is lynched, it can pick someone scummy who's likely to get lynched and put a vest on the Jailor.


does it ignores jailing?

the problem is that depends way too much on TKs, and sometimes it might encourage bad plays

Dont get surprised if idiots start pushing randomly their target just to get a vest


Yes, it ignores jailing. The visits are indirect.

How does it depend on TKs? You watch the player who you think is going to die and give armor to someone who you think is an important Townie. If you think someone is going to die because they're scum, pick them. If you think someone else is more likely to die because Mafia will attack them, watch that person.

The game is balanced around high-Elo ranked. Just because some people might make dumb plays doesn't make a role unbalanced. Vigilantes might randomly shoot a Townie with no evidence. Does that make Vigilante a bad role? No, it actually makes Vigilante a good role because it punishes people who make bad plays.
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby Noob161 » Tue May 11, 2021 10:54 pm

/Vote Kidnapper
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby MarsGodofWar » Wed May 12, 2021 3:42 am

Meh, what a bloody joke. The worse role suggested (Kleptomaniac) has one of the highest votes. Obviously, everyone here is delusional. A daytime Witch with Consigliere abilities is never gonna be added but you guys want it to be tested, smh. Bishop is 2nd worse and yet it has 5 votes lol. Bishop is overpowered and will just create more boring ass metas.
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby MarsGodofWar » Wed May 12, 2021 3:44 am

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:Auditor by MarsGodofWar
It adds nothing to the game, and its boring to play as and against


I disagree with it being boring to play against. Removing people's abilities is not only fun but also very funny. But yes I can see why it would be boring to play against, still better than dying though right? Neutral Evil needs more roles that are true to that alignment (can't win with Town). Jesters and Executioners are not true Neutral Evil roles imo. And Auditor is very balanced and will help counter against Power roles such as Jailor and Mayor.
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby TheDoggFather » Fri May 14, 2021 7:49 am

Hey I like a lot of these roles but my favorites are Kidnapper and Sniper so
/Vote Kidnapper /Vote Sniper
I also like the idea of Jailor being able to be killed by a Veteran so /Vote Veteran/Witch Rework
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby Noob161 » Fri May 14, 2021 8:06 am

I'd also like to /Vote Veteran Rework and /Vote Blacksmith by Mars please confirm my votes
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby alex1234321 » Fri May 14, 2021 9:19 am

Upon further review, the votes from TheDoggFather, Noob161, and TheManFromOuttaSpace (on Discord) have been removed since it appears that they are alts of the same user. Please do not use alternate accounts in an attempt to make your votes count multiple times.
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby MarsGodofWar » Fri May 14, 2021 9:33 am

Also, Agent was clearly my suggestion and the post says you must gain permission from the original user and I never gave cob permission to use my suggestion, so remove it from the thread cheers
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby Ezradekezra » Fri May 14, 2021 9:34 am

/unvote Kidnapper

Cob stole Agent from FM, not from you lmao
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby superdog551 » Fri May 14, 2021 9:41 am

MarsGodofWar wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:/unvote Kidnapper

Cob stole Agent from FM, not from you lmao


Erradekezra go and kill yourself you worthless peasant

Unvoting my idea cause you dont like what I say. You liked the idea in the first place so why are you unvoting it?

I revived the Agent idea, he stole it straight from me after it mentioned it in his Lookout rework thread.


Remember when I told you that you didn't come up with the idea for Agent and you tried to act like you weren't claiming it as your original idea?

/Unvote Sniper

I will not support any of your roles when you disrespect the rules of the testing grounds and then act like this when you get called out.
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby alex1234321 » Fri May 14, 2021 9:41 am

Due to multiaccounting and repeated instances of harassment, marsgodofwar's votes have been disqualified from this month's poll. Their roles will remain in the poll for the time being since others may want them to be tested.
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby Ezradekezra » Fri May 14, 2021 9:41 am

Thank you Var for posting that quote blocker userscript a while back
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby Jerme » Fri May 14, 2021 9:50 am

I've removed the two offensive posts from this thread. Keep it civil guys, we (TG) are one community and toxicity should not have a space here.
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby MarsGodofWar » Fri May 14, 2021 9:52 am

superdog551 wrote:
MarsGodofWar wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:/unvote Kidnapper

Cob stole Agent from FM, not from you lmao


Erradekezra go and kill yourself you worthless peasant

Unvoting my idea cause you dont like what I say. You liked the idea in the first place so why are you unvoting it?

I revived the Agent idea, he stole it straight from me after it mentioned it in his Lookout rework thread.


Remember when I told you that you didn't come up with the idea for Agent and you tried to act like you weren't claiming it as your original idea?

/Unvote Sniper

I will not support any of your roles when you disrespect the rules of the testing grounds and then act like this when you get called out.


I never said I came up with the idea for Agent. I said I brought the idea to life and then cob took credit for it. So you're kot supporting a role which you originally agreeded with because you don't like the user who suggested it? Straight up joke. The role should be more important then who suggested it. I disrespect the rules of the testing grounds because they are fucking bullshit. Two of the worse roles suggestion have the most votes, Kleptomaniac and Bishop so it's clear none of you guys have any idea what you are talking about
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby Ezradekezra » Fri May 14, 2021 9:56 am

Inb4 forum ban
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby superdog551 » Fri May 14, 2021 9:58 am

This is pathetic. Take your toxicity elsewhere please, I've been getting tired of seeing it everywhere on these forums
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby alex1234321 » Fri May 14, 2021 9:59 am

I deleted three more offensive posts made by MarsGodofWar
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby MarsGodofWar » Fri May 14, 2021 10:01 am

superdog551 wrote:This is pathetic. Take your toxicity elsewhere please, I've been getting tired of seeing it everywhere on these forums


I've put up with enough of your guys shit so I'll be three times as toxic back
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Re: TG Role/Concept Poll | Voting

Postby Jerme » Fri May 14, 2021 10:11 am

I kindly suggest to keep this thread on topic and fight your wars outside of the forums.
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