13F | Dual Mafia III | Russian Can-Can [Host Loses]

[Kmenx]

@host
Can you please confirm if, hypothetically, a prankster and consort both targeted a player, and the prank was for the player to receive the result "Your target was immune!", is that prank text the only feedback the player would receive that night?

Prank overwrites all night results so yes but if you really want a mod to answer we can wait
(I was prank killed in 11F [I think] and didn't receive you were attacked by a mafia result)

[Schultz128]

Pranks replace results unless your role ability gives feedback

[RHawkeye]

@host
Can you please confirm if, hypothetically, a prankster and consort both targeted a player, and the prank was for the player to receive the result "Your target was immune!", is that prank text the only feedback the player would receive that night?

Prank overwrites all night results so yes but if you really want a mod to answer we can wait
(I was prank killed in 11F [I think] and didn't receive you were attacked by a mafia result)

I think it works the way you're saying, but I don't see the point in all the arguing about it when we can just get mod confirmation.

[ElusiveBelle]

I'm pretty sure Kmenx is Cons/Pros

That's actuallybpretty stupid no consort benefits from mt actions

Implying scum wouldn't want to try and appear town here, that argument is moot.

TPA, Kmenx and Chubby are 100% scum.

If you want to lynch anyone but TPA/Kmenx, you will have to do so over Watt's dead body.

I'm still not backing you with TPA but I'm willing to swing on Kmenx with the weak argument above.
Besides I'm not sold on soul when that can be self resolving, why let us make a mistake when they make the choice for us.
Town should be better than to be that dumb, it's like playing blackjack. Let the house take the risk and just stay while you have the chance.

[RHawkeye]

Soul is literally openwolfing

[Watt2015]

When everyone's done here I'll place a vote on Soul

[ElusiveBelle]

Open wolf or not there is still room for mistake, town has no reason to risk it at this point when we can clarify other things and have them self resolve anyways. Why put all our eggs in that basket when that basket can fill itself and we fill another.

[Watt2015]

I'm pretty set on Soul. I see no reason to doubt the Tracker claim, except for the possibility that it could be a Consig on the other Mafia.

[Kmenx]

I'm pretty set on Soul. I see no reason to doubt the Tracker claim, except for the possibility that it could be a Consig on the other Mafia.

Consig wouldn't have known he made the kill which could cause a revenge outing from Soul

I really doubt they'd risk it

[Watt2015]

I'm pretty set on Soul. I see no reason to doubt the Tracker claim, except for the possibility that it could be a Consig on the other Mafia.

Consig wouldn't have known he made the kill which could cause a revenge outing from Soul

I really doubt they'd risk it

Eh, I haven't played as Mafia in literal forever, so I kinda forgot how it worked. Anyone can perform the factional kill then?

[Kmenx]

I'm pretty set on Soul. I see no reason to doubt the Tracker claim, except for the possibility that it could be a Consig on the other Mafia.

Consig wouldn't have known he made the kill which could cause a revenge outing from Soul

I really doubt they'd risk it

Eh, I haven't played as Mafia in literal forever, so I kinda forgot how it worked. Anyone can perform the factional kill then?

Yup

[ElusiveBelle]

I'm pretty set on Soul. I see no reason to doubt the Tracker claim, except for the possibility that it could be a Consig on the other Mafia.

Tracker claim is the easiest to fake, all you say is, "Oh this person killed them."
There is no actual information of use there other than the claim. It's actually weaker than a sheriff red claim which can be just as bad.

Although mafia outing the other mafia this early is up for debate. With both sides down a number throwing the other side under the bus isn't the wisest move, not unheard of but still unwise. Mafia are looking for mislynches here which is why we need to take as little risks as possible to not give them that.

[Watt2015]

I'm pretty set on Soul. I see no reason to doubt the Tracker claim, except for the possibility that it could be a Consig on the other Mafia.

Tracker claim is the easiest to fake, all you say is, "Oh this person killed them."
There is no actual information of use there other than the claim. It's actually weaker than a sheriff red claim which can be just as bad.

Although mafia outing the other mafia this early is up for debate. With both sides down a number throwing the other side under the bus isn't the wisest move, not unheard of but still unwise. Mafia are looking for mislynches here which is why we need to take as little risks as possible to not give them that.

Point being here, if the claim is BS, then we have tomorrows lynch. Plus I'm not feeling a Townie vibe off of Soul.

[Soulshade55r]

@Octo
Didn't you claim I was Red? and that you tracked me...

[roz1roz]

"Every night you can choose to target 1 player.
Your target's real night results will be replaced with a false night result of your choosing.
The effect you choose will not actually be done; For example, an investigator pranked into thinking he was roleblocked will still receive night results with clues as to which role his target was. However, he will not know for sure if he slept peacefully."

Your target was immune and You were atracked but your bulletproof vest saved you are possible pranks

Please learn the roles before playing so I don't have to luagh at your stupitidy

So in your world you can also prank sheriff they got guilty result?
Cause that's same you are suggesting right now. Immune is direct result of theirs ACTION.

[roz1roz]

Pranks replace results unless your role ability gives feedback

Freaking exactly.

Night immunity is a feedback from your role.

[lucky333123]

Ladd is either scum or dumb and ladd wouldn't be this dumb as scum

I agree with this statement.

[roz1roz]

I'm pretty set on Soul. I see no reason to doubt the Tracker claim, except for the possibility that it could be a Consig on the other Mafia.

Only posibility is disguiser tbh.

[JamesD28]

I'm pretty set on Soul. I see no reason to doubt the Tracker claim, except for the possibility that it could be a Consig on the other Mafia.

Only posibility is disguiser tbh.

Disguiser can't roll

[roz1roz]

Ladd is either scum or dumb and ladd wouldn't be this dumb as scum

I agree with this statement.

So either scum or non-scum. Rofl.

[Soulshade55r]

what doesn't make sense is that he claimed I was Red yet mafia killed the same person

[Kmenx]

Pranks replace results unless your role ability gives feedback

Freaking exactly.

Night immunity is a feedback from your role.

NO IT IS NOT

[Kmenx]

Just get me out of this
I don't care at this point

[ElusiveBelle]

Point being here, if the claim is BS, then we have tomorrows lynch. Plus I'm not feeling a Townie vibe off of Soul.

That's entirely missing the point of my post to not take the risk, negating the fact of reads or vibes town has no reason not to let it self resolve.
If we're wrong we're setting ourselves back and losing a TK, while in this case we wont lose the TK unless mafia kill them and we still have a scum die without wasting a lynch.

Also yes immunity wouldn't be overridden by prankster. That's not how it works.
Whether or not you slept peacefully would as well as other things such as roleblocked or transported.
But if you shot someone and got pranked that you slept peacefully, if they were immune you would still be told so.
If I am not mistaken healings show up as immune anyways no? If that was the case there would be no reason not to get the results as them alive the next day would prove it anyways.

[Kmenx]

Ok no one has a basic knowledge of game mechanics here gl ladd on pushing my replacement because he is the only one that deserves a win here