FNAF themed Forum Mafia

[Moleland]

This is a work in progress still. If you feel like it could be improved, please comment before writing it off.

Draft 5

Role List (30)
Spoiler: Freddy
Foxy
Chica
Bonnie
Balloon Boy
Fredbear/Golden Freddy
The Puppet
Springtrap
The Crying Child
The Purple Guy
Innocent Child
Innocent Child
Innocent Child
Innocent Child
Innocent Child
Guest Investigative
Guest Investigative
Guest Investigative
Security Door
Security Door
Guest Protective
Phone Guy
Protagonist
Guest Protective
Guest Support'
Random 'Guest'
Random 'Guest'
Animatronic Support
Random Non-Town*
Any*
Gameplay

Spoiler: Each day will have a 24 hour discussion phase, followed by up to 72 hours of a voting phase. You are allowed to vote to not 'lynch' and proceed to the next night phase. Once a majority has been reached the decision is locked in and final. Then follows a 48 hour night phase. The first day will skip the voting phase

General rules
1) Inactivity: After 36 hours if a player has not posted they will be proded for inactivity. If they do not reply or post within 18 hours they will be replaced. If they are proded repeatedly, they will be replaced.
2) Whispers: No player can whisper in this game.
3) Last Will/Death Notes: Will be in use. To set your Last Will or Death Note, PM the game Mods.
4) Game Throwing: We will not tolerate game throwing. You will be blacklisted from future games if you attempt to do this. This can include "Jesting".
5) Cheating: Do not use any outside sources for the purposes of this game. This includes, but is not limited to Skype, other forums, coders, etc.
6) Spam: Please don't avidly spam the thread. No one can get a word in edgewise and it becomes a mess if everyone is doing it.
7) Have fun and be respectful of others: You really should know this already
8) All forum rules apply.
Rolecards
Spoiler: Animatronics
'You must kill all visitors
- You must kill all Guests
- You must kill the Purple Guy
- You may spare anyone else

Freddy - Animatronic Killing{Unique}
You are the leader of the animatronics. You decide on your faction's kill each night.
[spoiler]- You can choose a person to attempt to kill each night. If foxy is alive and available, they will attack the target instead of you
- If you are roleblocked, your instruction will be ignored and Foxy's choice will apply instead.
- You may leave a deathnote on your victims
- If your target is wearing a mask, you will not attack them.
- You are NOT night immune
- You will know the identity of the others in your faction.
- You can talk to the non-rogue animatronics each night.

Foxy - Animatronic Killing{Unique}
You are arguably the most dangerous and vicious animatronic
- You can vote a person to kill each night. If Freddy is Dead, roleblocked or otherwise doesn't assign you a target, you will attack your target.
- If you are roleblocked, Freddy will carry out the factions kill instead of you
- You are not fooled if your target is wearing a mask. You will still attack
- You may leave a deathnote on your victims
- You are NOT night immune
- You will know the identity of the others in your faction.
- You can talk to the non-rogue animatronics each night.

Bonnie - Animatronic Support{Unique}
You are a constant distraction to those unfortunate to spend the night over at Freddy's. Although not the most dangerous, you can kill if you have to
- You can choose a person to attempt to roleblock each night. A roleblocked target will be unable to perform their night action
- You are NOT roleblock immune. If a security door targets you, you will not perform your night action
- If Foxy and Freddy are dead, you will take over as your faction's killing role.
- If your target is wearing a mask, you will not attack or Roleblock them.
- You are NOT night immune
- You will know the identity of the others in your faction.
- You can talk to the non-rogue animatronics each night.

Chica - Animatronic Support{Unique}
You are a constant distraction to those unfortunate to spend the night over at Freddy's. Although not the most dangerous, you can kill if you have to
- You can choose a person to attempt to roleblock each night. A roleblocked target will be unable to perform their night action
- You are NOT roleblock immune. If a security door targets you, you will not perform your night action
- If Foxy, Freddy and Bonnie are dead, you will take over as your faction's killing role.
- If your target is wearing a mask, you will not attack or Roleblock them.
- You are NOT night immune
- You will know the identity of the others in your faction.
- You can talk to the non-rogue animatronics each night.

Balloon Boy - Animatronic Support{Unique}
With a haunting laugh and a penchant for general mischief, you will seek to annoy and confuse your house guests
- You can choose a person to attempt to trick each night.
- You can choose one of the following messages.
'You were roleblocked'
'You see Fredbear and you are filled with Terror.''
'A blight light was shone at you. You fled without doing your action'
'Someone tried to visit you, but a bright light forced them to flee'
'You see the haunting image of Golden Freddy. You are filled with Terror'
'Someone got in your way. You were Roleblocked'
'A Crying Child compels you to use to do it's own bidding!'
- Your target will be told the message, but it will not affect their actual night action. Any feedback the action would tell them is still received
- If you trick a Flashlight/torch, they will be Roleblocked as well as receiving your trick message
- If you are the last animatronic alive, you will take over as the faction's killing role.
- If your target is wearing a mask, you will not attack or trick them
- You are night immune
- You will know the identity of the others in your faction.
- You can talk to the rest of your faction each night.

Cleaner - Animatronic Support
You are hired help who is accustomed to removing all evidence of death and disposing of the body
- Before each day starts, you will be informed as who was killed last night
- You may choose to clean one of those bodies.
- The targets killer, role and last instructions will be hidden from the town. Only you will receive that information
- You may clean 3 times
- You are NOT immune to attack from Fredbear
- Your visit will be still be spotted by security cameras
- If no one else can kill in your faction, you will be promoted to a killing role
- You will know the identity of the others in your faction.
- You can talk to the rest of your faction each night.

Restaurant manager - Animatronic Support{Unique}
You are a cynical restaurant manager, who only wants to stay in business and keep the murders secret.
- Each night, you can choose to investigate another player
- You will be told their exact role
- You are NOT immune to attack from Fredbear
- If no one else can kill in your faction, you will be promoted to a killing role
- You will know the identity of the others in your faction.
- You can talk to the rest of your faction each night..

Fredbear
'You must kill all visitors
- You must kill all Guests
- You must kill the Purple Guy
- You may spare anyone else

Fredbear/Golden Freddy - Neutral Killing{Unique}
You are merely a ghostly imagine of the Golden Freddy suit... yet you can still kill
- You may choose someone to terrorise each night, or you may choose to kill everyone you have terrorised so far
- Killing those you have terrorised cannot be prevented by any means, unless they are detained by the Protagonist
- If you attempt to terrorise someone wearing a mask, you will be unable to.
- If you attempt to terrorise another animatronic, you will be unable to
- If your target is protected by a flashlight, you will terrorise the flashlight instead
- You are night immune
- Your Target will know you have terrorised them
- You may leave a deathnote on your victims
- If the phone guy is on alert when you try to terrorise him, he will kill you. However, once he is filled with terror, him alerting will not stop you killing him.

The Puppet
'You must kill all visitors
- You must kill all Guests
- You must kill the Purple Guy
- You may spare anyone else

The Puppet - Neutral Killing{Unique}
You are the sometimes sleeping Puppet. But once the music stops, you are out to kill
- Every other night, the music box will stop playing.
- If the music box is not playing, you can choose a target to kill
- Your attack will kill through night immunity. You will also kill any visitors your target had that night.
- If another animatronic or Golden Freddy visits your main kill target that night, they will be scared off instead of being attacked
- If roleblocked on a night the music box is not playing, you will attack the person who roleblocked you and any visitors they had
- You are night immune on nights the music box is off
- You are not affected if your target is wearing a mask
- You may leave a deathnote on your victims
- If the phone guy is on alert when you try to attack him, your attack will fail and he will kill you

Seeker
'You must ensure you outlive the Protagonist and ensure he does not survive the game'
- The protagonist must not survive the game
- You must outlive the protagonist.
- You win with everyone else

Springtrap Seeker Killing{Unique}
You are a single minded killer and you seek only one target
- Each night you may investigate another player.
- If that player is the protagonist, you will begin hunting them
- If you manage to hunt the protagonist for 3 nights and still be alive, you will kill them. This attack cannot be prevented
- You are not affected if your target is wearing a mask
- You are night immune.
- The protagonist will know when you have discovered them
- You may leave a deathnote on your victim
- You can't be stalked by Fredbear/Golden Freddy
- You are immune to Roleblocks
- If you die, you still win if the protagonist died that night or before you

The Killer
- You must kill all guests
- You must kill all Animatronics
- You must kill Golden Freddy
- You Must Kill the Puppet
- You may spare anyone else

The Purple Guy Neutral Killing {Unique}
You are brutal serial killer who seeks to kill children the most
- Each night you may attack another player
- If that player is an innocent child, your attack will not be spotted by any security cameras watching them. Innocent Children you kill cannot be examined by a cop.
- If you are Roleblocked, you will attack the player that roleblocked you
- You are not affected if your target is wearing a mask
- You may leave a deathnote on your victims
- You are night immune, but can still be killed by Fredbear/Golden Freddy

Survivors
- You must survive until a faction wins the game other than Seekers
- You may spare anyone

Restaurant worker Neutral Benign
You are just a simple employee looking to survive to collect their next paycheck.
- Each night you may decide whether to hide in the security office or Safe Room
- You can hide in each location a maximum of 2 times each
- If you hide in the safe room, actions against you by animatronics will have no affect. You will also be immune to Roleblocks
- If you hide in the Security Office, all actions against you will fail with the exception of attacks from Golden Freddy or the Puppet. You can also still be roleblocked by Security Doors.
- If Roleblocked by a security Door, you will not hide in the office.
- If someones action against you fails, they will be informed. You will also know what kind of actions against you failed.

The cursed souls
You only want to see others suffer the same fate you did and your terrifying form can convince others to do things they would normally not do
- Live to see every guest die
- You may spare anyone else

Crying Child Neutral Evil
You are an earlier victim of the Purple guy, Now your only wish is to see others die like you did
- Each night you may control another player to use their night ability on a player
- You can make a player target themself
- You are immune to Roleblocks
- You are not affected if your target is wearing a mask
- Your Victim will know they were contolled
- You have a one hit shield that will protect you against attack once. Anymore and your tortured soul will disperse
- As long as all Guests died before you, you do not have to survive the game

Guests
'Eliminate all evildoers'
- You must kill all animatronics
- You must kill the Purple Guy
- You must kill Golden Freddy
- You Must Kill the Puppet
- You may spare anyone else

Innocent Child - Guest Support
You just a small child stuck at Freddy's at night
- At the start of each day, a currently unrevealed Innocent child will be revealed to everyone in the game

Security Camera - Guest Investigative
You are one of many security cameras that observe what happens at Freddy's
- Each night you may choose another player to watch
- You will see everyone who visits them

Forensic Cop - Guest Investigative
You are a police officer who specialises in recovering evidence from bodies of the dead
- Each night you may choose a dead guest and a living player
- You will know if the living player visited the dead guest the night they died
- You cannot examine innocent children killed by the purple guy or cleaned bodies

Security Door - Guest Support {Twin unique}
You are one of the 2 security doors that protect the office from unwelcome visitors
- Each night you may choose another player to Roleblock
- Roleblocked targets won't be able to use their night action
- You are NOT immune to roleblocks. However, security door Roleblocks take priority over animatronic roleblocks

Mask Maker - Guest Protective
You are scared visitor who tries hiding in masks from the animatronics
- Each night you may choose a player to wear a mask of an animatronic head you made
- You may choose yourself as often as you like
- You may not choose the same target twice in a row
- The mask will protect your target for 2 nights, unless used.
- If your target is protected from an animatronic, they will be notified

Flashlight/Torch - Guest Protective
You are a blinding light that will keep others away from your target.
- Each night you may choose another player to protect
- Any visitor to that player will be scared off instead
- Your target will know if and how many visitors were chased off that night
- If your target is being stalked by Fredbear/Golden Freddy, you will be attacked instead of your target
- If multiple Flashlights try to protect the same target RNG will decide which one actually does it

Phone Guy - Guest Killing {Unique}
You are an experienced security guard and trainer. It is rumoured you have a dark alter ego though
- Each day you may record a message of no more than 500 words to send to another player. They will be 'played' it at night. That player will not know your identity
- Each night you may chose to go on alert. You may go on alert 3 times
- If you go on alert, you will become night immune and kill everyone who visits you that night
- You are Immune to Roleblocks
- Your attack kills through Night immunity
- You may leave a deathnote on your victims

The Protagonist - Guest Killing {Unique}
You are a new employee in charge of guarding the restuarant
- Each day you may choose to detain another player for the night
- The detained player will be roleblocked. If they are an animatronic, they will be unable to talk in Animatronic chat
- You and your detained target will be able to exchange up to 2 messages of less than 500 words anonymously
- From night 2 onwards, You can choose to kill your prisoner. You may kill up to 3 times
- If you kill another guest, you will be unable to kill again
- You may leave a deathnote on your victims

Investigator - Guest Investigative
You are a police detective searching for clues to uncover the mystery of what is happening
- Each night you may choose another player to investigate for a clue to their role
- The possible investigation outcomes are:-

"Your Target is well versed in destruction. They are either the Phone Guy, The Puppet or an Engineer"
"Your target is an employee at the restaurant. They are either a Cleaner, a Restaurant Worker or the Protagonist "
"Your target gets in the way frequently. They are either Bonnie, Chica or a security door"
"Your target is always quick to react. They are either Foxy or a torch"
"Your target Is highly respected by their peers. They are either Freddy or the Restaurant owner"
"Your target attempts to gather information from others. They are either a Forensic Cop, Springtrap or a Reporter"
"Your target is searching for the truth about others. They are either an investigator or the Restaurant manager "
"Your target watches closely from afar. They are either a Security Camera or Golden Freddy"
"Your target looks Childlike. They are either an Innocent Child or a Crying child "
"Your target is has a strong sense of duty. They are either a Doctor or The Purple Guy"
"Your Target is trying to trick others. They are either a Mask maker or Balloon Boy"

Restaurant Owner Guest Support {Unique}
You only ever wanted to ensure that your restaurant was a place of fun, and will do anything to make it right again
- From day 2, you may choose to reveal yourself as the Owner at anytime during the day.
- Reveal youself by typing, /Reveal in the gamethread. A Mod will confirm you ASAP
- Once revealed, your vote will count as 3 votes
- Once revealed, you will be too embarrassed to wear a mask at night

Reporter Guest Support
You are an undercover newspaper reporter, hoping to sniff out the next big story
- Each day you may choose someone to interview that night
- You can send your target 3 questions of less than 200 words. They will see you as 'Reporter'
- You may also write an article of less than 500 words to post up on the wall for all to see next day.
- Because you wish to remain undercover, you cannot sign your name or hint at your identity in your article in anyway
- If you die or are Roleblocked, you won't be able to post your article
- You can interview the Phone Guy on alert and you will not be attacked

Engineer Guest Killing
You are an engineer, normally employed to make sure the equipment works properly
- Each night you may choose to attack another player
- You cannot attack night 1
- If your target is non-mechanical, Your attack will have no affect and you will be told the message 'Your target is not susceptible to your attack'
- Your attack does NOT bypass night immunity. If your target is immune you will get the message, "Your target is somehow resistant to your attack'
- You can attack only 3 times.

Doctor Guest Support {Unique}
You are an emergency room doctor, who will go all out to revive someone everyone thought was dead
- Each night, you may choose a Guest who died the previous night
- You will bring that person back to life.
- You may only revive one person
- You cannot revive cleaned bodies or Innocent Children killed by the Purple Guy
Role conversion
Spoiler: Freddy = weaker godfather
Foxy = Stronger mafioso
Bonnie/Chica = weaker consort.
Balloon boy= Stronger prankster.
Cleaner = Janitor
Restaurant manager = Consig
Fredbear = Arsonist
Puppet = Werewolf
Springtrap = Executioner merged with stalker.
Crying child = witch
Innocent child = citizens That reveal
Mask maker = Weaker marshal
Torch = Stronger marshal
Camara = lookout
Purple Guy = SK
Restaurant worker = Survivor
Security door = escort
Phone guy= veteran
Protagonist = jailor
Restaurant owner = mayor
Engineer = vigilante
Doctor = ret
Debate topics

- Should the sk be immune to all scum attacks?
- Does the rolelist allow any faction a chance of winning?
- Should Springtrap: -
a) Kill the protagonist quicker? (After maybe 1 or 2 days instead of 3?)
b) Get a new kill target if the protagonist is killed by some other means?
c) Get a new wincon if the protagonist is killed by some other means?
d) Be scrapped altogether and replaced with a more traditional Executioner like role?
- Should the Innocent Child Role:-
a) Be scrapped and replaced with a more traditional citizen role?
b) Changed so only one Innocent child is revealed at anyone time?

[Swordsworth]

Are there whispers?

[ronit]

I will now be co hosting this with moleland. Please note this is a first draft and changes will likely be made.

[TheCow]

There isn't any claimspace on the current role list for Scum.

[Moleland]

Are there whispers?

I don't see why there wouldn't be

[Moleland]

There isn't any claimspace on the current role list for Scum.

Hmm... They could claim to be a random town or an unrevealed innocent child. But yes, I guess there should be more uncertainty

[EdmundMcGaben]

The idea seems cool, but the town has a whooping advantage over the evils (21v9)

[Moleland]

The idea seems cool, but the town has a whooping advantage over the evils (21v9)

Yep. But then again, evil get an average of at least 3 kills a night potentially

[EdmundMcGaben]

Also, both chica and bonnie are consorts. Wouldnt one be consigliere? Possibly bonnie

Im guessing GF is stalker and puppet is werewolf aligned with mafia. Is it intentional?

Why so much security cameras? 4 lookouts is so advantaged to the town.

I dont get why every neutral just chases to kill the jailor. (I mean, its only one role, but he still chases after the jailor.)

Add another neutral roles, like witch, survivor, et cetera and add around 6 neutrals.

Raise the mafia number to 8.

[Swordsworth]

There's 3 100% claimspace slots for 9 scum, and a confirmed town emerges on the first day, and whispers are enabled. There's a problem here.

[Moleland]

Also, both chica and bonnie are consorts. Wouldnt one be consigliere? Possibly bonnie

Im guessing GF is stalker and puppet is werewolf aligned with mafia. Is it intentional?

Why so much security cameras? 4 lookouts is so advantaged to the town.

Golden Freddy and the puppet are meant to be mafia aligned as they are ultimately on the same side.

4 security cameras was for flavour if anything. But I guess reducing it just 1 confirmed camera would be better. The first thing we are working on is improving invest results.

I decided on Chica and bonnie being consorts because they disable the cameras and stop the doors working - Almost like Roleblocking.

[Moleland]

There's 3 100% claimspace slots for 9 scum, and a confirmed town emerges on the first day, and whispers are enabled. There's a problem here.

Yeah. I'm working on the role list. This is just a start point. I'm thinking on it still. Just wanted to get the idea out there

[EdmundMcGaben]

No, why there is 2 different types of consort, just put the twice.

Town is still whooping in numbers, you should reduce their numbers to 18. 12 evil, 3 killing factions, 1 possible killer that chases for the fucking jailor.

So one possible rolelist:

Freddy
Foxy
Rogue Animatronic Killing
Animatronic Support
Animatronic Support
Animatronic Deception
Random Animatronic
Springtrap
Killer (Can be arsonist or serial killer (purple guy)
Neutral Evil (Can be witch, jester or executioner)
Random Neutral
Neutral-Non Killing
Innocent Child
Innocent Child
Innocent Child
Innocent Child
Innocent Child
Protagonist
Guest Investigative
Guest Investigative
Guest Protective
Guest Protective
Guest Support
Guest Support
Guest Killing
Guest Power/Random Guest
Random Guest
Random Guest
Random Guest
Random Guest

Add mayor rolecard.
Add Retributionist rolecard.
Add lawyer(?)

[Moleland]

No, why there is 2 different types of consort, just put the twice.

Town is still whooping in numbers, you should reduce their numbers to 18. 12 evil, 3 killing factions, 1 possible killer that chases for the fucking jailor.

So one possible rolelist:

<Snip>

I made 2 the consorts for flavour reasons. But essentially they are the same.

As for your rolelist, I see where you are going with it. I just got to think of a way of making those other roles flavourful before I can add them. I had an idea of a ret being 'Replay night' but that seems to be stretching the reference too far.

I think I like the evils I have atm. But I should perhaps switch more from town to evil.'

[EdmundMcGaben]

Also:

- If the phone guy is on alert when you try to stalk him, he will kill you. However, if you are stalking him, going on alert will have no affect.

What does that means?

Also, if werewolf is mafia aligned, you can also do with removing his immunity/doesnt pierces immunity

And for stalker, i see you changed the rolecard QUITE bit. I dont want it to be like this, especially since hes just a serial killer to the mafia at its current state. Make it the normal stalker, if he gets lynched all previously stalked targets lives, can stalk other animatronics via transporter/witch.

[LeScraf]

Just remove Stalker entirely. It is a garbage role and if it rolls Town will steamroll, especially with it being Mafia aligned.

[Moleland]

Also:

- If the phone guy is on alert when you try to stalk him, he will kill you. However, if you are stalking him, going on alert will have no affect.

What does that means?

Also, if werewolf is mafia aligned, you can also do with removing his immunity/doesnt pierces immunity

And for stalker, i see you changed the rolecard QUITE bit. I dont want it to be like this, especially since hes just a serial killer to the mafia at its current state. Make it the normal stalker, if he gets lynched all previously stalked targets lives, can stalk other animatronics via transporter/witch.

Basically. GF chooses to stalk Vet. Vet goes on alert. GF dies

GF is stalking Vet. Vet goes on alert. Nothing happens. Vet dies.

But I'm willing to rethink a little

[Moleland]

Ok, So Draft 2 is complete

The following has changed

- Some new roles have been added
- Some roles have been altered
- The role list has been changed
- The investigator groups have changed (pending another edit)

[Moleland]

Draft 3 is complete

The following has changed

- A survivor role has been added
- The game rules have been expanded
- The investigator groups have been updated

[ADorkOfPork]

Why is there 3 NKs? There's a possibility of Town losing Majority on Day 3. Including the Any slots.

Let's assume it's 19 v 11. (Meaning that 2/3 Any roles was given to town)

Night 1: 3 kills night 1 against town -> 16 v 11
Day 2: Mislynch -> 15 v 11
Night 2: 4 kills against town -> 11 v 11 (Majority lost as town can no longer lynch without non town sided support)

[Moleland]

Why is there 3 NKs? There's a possibility of Town losing Majority on Day 3. Including the Any slots.

Let's assume it's 19 v 11. (Meaning that 2/3 Any roles was given to town)

Night 1: 3 kills night 1 against town -> 16 v 11
Day 2: Mislynch -> 15 v 11
Night 2: 4 kills against town -> 11 v 11 (Majority lost as town can no longer lynch without non town sided support)

The 3 NK is flavourful. If you feel this puts the odds against town too much, maybe an any slot could be turned over to town?

[EdmundMcGaben]

Why is there 3 NKs? There's a possibility of Town losing Majority on Day 3. Including the Any slots.

Let's assume it's 19 v 11. (Meaning that 2/3 Any roles was given to town)

Night 1: 3 kills night 1 against town -> 16 v 11
Day 2: Mislynch -> 15 v 11
Night 2: 4 kills against town -> 11 v 11 (Majority lost as town can no longer lynch without non town sided support)

The 3 NK is flavourful. If you feel this puts the odds against town too much, maybe an any slot could be turned over to town?

Flavour.

Balance > Flavour = Variety

[Moleland]

Why is there 3 NKs? There's a possibility of Town losing Majority on Day 3. Including the Any slots.

Let's assume it's 19 v 11. (Meaning that 2/3 Any roles was given to town)

Night 1: 3 kills night 1 against town -> 16 v 11
Day 2: Mislynch -> 15 v 11
Night 2: 4 kills against town -> 11 v 11 (Majority lost as town can no longer lynch without non town sided support)

The 3 NK is flavourful. If you feel this puts the odds against town too much, maybe an any slot could be turned over to town?

Flavour.

Balance > Flavour = Variety

Also you need to notice only 2 killers can kill nigth 1. So only way 2 town is dying if both doors Rb the Purple guy or someone gets killed by phone guy. Also, The Purple guy can kill the entire mafia except Balloon Boy

[Moleland]

Ok, those voting no - Can I have feedback as to why and what you would like to see changed?

[Alzar]

Voting no on this for now. The pitch is messy at the moment, and there's no need to put every faction's wincon/rolecard(?) in a separate spoiler. Honestly, it'd a bit of a headache to read through it all. Also, you have a bit of broken BBCode floating around. It'd get your idea across more effectively if you didn't say "Okay, this is just an idea I have, and it might not work" while throwing a pile of descriptions at the reader.

Aesthetics aside, the rolelist doesn't look too great. Scum doesn't have any claimspace, and there are 3 Any slots. Those aren't a good idea.

The roles themselves have too many unnecessary buffs. Phone Guy is just a buffed Veteran who can confirm without even alerting. Engineer is a Vigilante who doesn't feel guilt and doesn't kill non-Mafia (from what I understand?). Mask Maker is a needlessly buffed Marshal.